Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 90
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So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
And it's still ongoing
Date: 2023-04-25 04:56 pm (UTC)I have been really busy do to driving a truck all the time and have barely any time to comment but I still follow the blog whenever I can.
I can't believe how long this has now gone on for.
I was hoping for some sort of conclusion, instead it's just drip drip drip and it's turning into torture.
Nothing has turned out the way I expected, except for the economy tanking and banks going bust again, but even that seems to be running in slow motion.
JMG any ideas on how long this is going to continue?
On another note I have just seen a video with Justin trudeau that I can't believe is real, it looks like it's deap fake AI. He admits the fox has side effects.
https://youtu.be/-PSInyIBgjM
Kind regards
Sean
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Date: 2023-04-28 02:27 am (UTC)That Trudeau link is cringe! Wish it were fake. I’m certain it’s sadly for real.
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Date: 2023-04-25 05:56 pm (UTC)NEW – Justin Trudeau Rewrites History By Now Saying He Never Forced Anyone To Get Vaccinated
"There are potential side effects in vaccinations. And there are people who've probably gotten very sick from vaccinations...While not forcing anyone to get vaccinated, I chose to make sure all the incentives and all the protections were there to encourage Canadians to get vaccinated."
https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1650598625141989385
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Date: 2023-04-25 05:57 pm (UTC)https://insiderpaper.com/huge-biological-risk-after-sudan-fighters-occupy-lab-who/
Masks are back in style?
Date: 2023-04-25 06:08 pm (UTC)Re: Masks are back in style?
Date: 2023-04-25 10:50 pm (UTC)a) The girls today like opera, and
b) Girls have cooties.
It makes as much sense as any other theory.
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Date: 2023-04-25 06:10 pm (UTC)Is this just what life will be like going forward? Unaccountable leaders bouncing from one crisis to the next, making everything worse with their bungling until everything just breaks completely?
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Date: 2023-04-25 06:15 pm (UTC)Looks like more revision of history under way to counter the negative news flow, and promote the official narrative. A brain twisting read.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/25/health/florida-covid-vaccine-analysis-ladapo/index.html
Headline: "Florida surgeon general altered Covid-19 vaccine analysis to suggest higher risk for younger men, Politico reports"
Pro-Narrative: "Multiple studies have found cases of myocarditis and pericarditis, inflammation of the heart and heart lining, are rare after mRNA vaccines, although they are more likely to occur among young men. The risk of heart inflammation is far greater from Covid-19 than from vaccination."
Sane comment: "“To say that I ‘removed an analysis’ for a particular outcome is an implicit denial of the fact that the public has been the recipient of biased data and interpretations since the beginning of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine campaign. I have never been afraid of disagreement with peers or media,” Ladapo’s statement said."
Pro-Narrative: "Following large clinical trials, the US Food and Drug Administration authorized the shots for use in people 6 months and older, and CDC continues to recommend them."
Oddly enough, with many links in the article, no link here to the "large clinical trials" statement...
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Date: 2023-04-27 10:18 pm (UTC)We definitely scienced you guys! We scienced really hard! There were lab coats and those tubie thingies and some guy with a clipboard!
Sorry now I’m lapsing into Trump “We scienced so hard it was uge and tremendous. Everyone knows we have the best people doing the sciencing.”
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Date: 2023-04-25 06:18 pm (UTC)https://www.rintrah.nl/trained-innate-immunity-the-only-way-to-prevent-a-pandemic-of-ever-more-virulent-sars2-variants/
Here’s a small excerpt:
“…If I thought this was just a shi**y vaccine and SARS2 turned into another hCov I would’ve moved on with my life and stopped focusing on this. But that’s just not what happened. What happened is far worse. They [the vex’s] damaged the immune response, in a manner that will force a virus to evolve towards greater virulence. They [the vex developers] bet everything on the antibodies and the T cells, but that’s not how our bodies would normally deal with viruses of this nature.
And it’s not just me arguing this, the studies I cite are coming out on a regular basis now, arguing that the mRNA vaccines induced a tolerogenic immune response [inducing the immune system to tolerate the C-19 virus and let the virus do its thing - LA], but [only] a handful of academics read them and everyone else would be left in the dark if I didn’t write about them. …”
I have yet to assimilate this, as the required background is frankly beyond my expertise, but my gut reaction is between concern and alarm. I wonder what Dendoica’s take is; are you reading this?
—Lunar Apprentice
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Date: 2023-04-26 01:51 am (UTC)The damage of all these repeat infections will continue to accumulate and wear people and their immune systems down, thus exposing them to ever increasing risks from diseases of all sorts (as well as making them vectors for same), plus there is a risk of a 'hot virus' emerging.
Is this doomsday feedback scenario happening? Well, we'll just have to wait and see.
My understanding is that Mark L (hi Mark) does not tend to think that feedback loops like this are very likely. Instead, he tends to believe that negative feedbacks exist, or perhaps get created, to balance out the positive ones and that this in turn tends to prevent things from going too far.
Mark L may be right, a 'cosmic balance' might protect us (although I note that the balance tips against each and every one of us on a personal level, and perhaps collectively, sooner or later).
Personally, my gut feel, right now, is that this isn't going to be 'the end'. There seems to be a story that still needs to play out. Sure, I wish it would end right now so I could shepherd goats through the ruins of Babylon, roll out my swag wherever I want, and listen to the calls of the night creatures under a non-light-polluted sky, but right at this moment, for what it's worth, I've started thinking that it isn't likely to end just yet. Instead, recent events have me thinking that the party won't really get started until a couple of additional key players arrive. . .
Until then, the water torture continues. . .
But if the feedback process is happening, then TPTB pretending that the lab-spawn has gone away won't help anyone. TPTB Gaslighting or blaming the "vaccinated" victims won't help either.
What to do then hey?
Following on from Rintrah's dietary advice to help mitigate the damage (which I'm not personally following at this time and am not in a position to judge), I've heard that one of the better ways to reduce transmission is to increase ventilation in public buildings, offices, etc. I note that the Parliament building of my former masters (I'm still unemployed after finding myself unwilling and psychologically unable to perform Kafkaesque and evil duties) recently had the ventilation upgraded for this very reason.
Has the ventilation been upgraded in everyone else's workplace? No. I didn't think so. No such expense for us mere mortals.
Nevertheless, it might be worth trying to keep things well-ventilated if you can and where it's practical to do so. There might also be some habits you can take up, such as eating outdoors rather than inside the restaurant when that's an option etc.
Try to exercise, get some sun, eat well, stay calm, pray, refuse the diktats of TPTB as you see fit, etc.
Other than that, good luck, I guess.
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From:The Tower Card and the fall of language
Date: 2023-04-25 06:53 pm (UTC)The Tower Card draws heavy inspiration from the Tower of Babel and is associated with the fall of language, I think since A. I. is mostly a language tool and with heavily inconsistent outputs we might take this into consideration, maybe is just part of this fall of language, a strong aspect of the tower it certainly adds to noise.
The Devil is a card of materialism, of the pitfall of the leftpath, of literal interpretation and it makes sense for the Tower to be the fall of that by fall of language.
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Date: 2023-04-25 07:19 pm (UTC)Did a visit to my doctor for ongoing slightly high blood pressure I have (gee I wonder why?) today. He asked if I was under stress. I said yes, (you've all heard this before) He collapse back in his chair when I told of a convention for my profession requiring 5 shots to attend in June. Then of the 2 police officers at my daughter's graduation to arrest people without vaccine cards. And that there is no one of any authority to stop organizations from making up any covid vaccination rules they want. He was truly flabbergasted.
Then I told him I have yet to take any covid vaccines and I have no too because of the way they've been shoved down my throat. His eyebrows went up at that. He said "well I wish you luck then."
His response didn't feel like an attack on me and here's why - His response tells me that he is seeing a lot of people come down with bad covid cases. It also likely means that he won't write me a medical exemption to vaccination if I need it, but I figured that wouldn't happen anyway. If forced vax comes up again, I'm still not doing it.
That's datapoint #1
Datapoint #2 My partner reports that the women at work are out every 6-8 weeks with covid. I said to ask them how many shots they've taken so far. I got a disgusted face in response, so I guess I won't find that out. Funny that it is repulsive to ask people how many shots they've had when they are sick, but you can demand many shots for healthy people. Anyway, we've had a mild winter and our house has been healthy the whole time, so something awful is up with what I suspect are the 4x vaccinated since that is what most of the people at the workplace did.
Lastly - things where I live are normal. The only people I see in masks are middle-aged women on occasion. Sometimes the man they have with them will have one on too. I'm quite bothered by how middle-age to older women are the ones driving the hysteria I experience and get the brunt of when they go on the attack. Why? Because I am one. It makes hanging out with my peers absolute misery. They are incredibly neurotic and anxiety ridden and there's no calming them down. Visions of those instruments in the Victorian Era for hysterical women come to mind as a possible solution.
Onward!
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Date: 2023-04-25 11:09 pm (UTC)I'm sorry, your story is so awful, but again, with the tea out my nose... have you... have you considered... throwing a tupperware party?
FWIW, I haven't noticed the older women where I live being particularly hysterical, but BC never mandated 4 shots for anyone (not past 2, I don't think... maybe 3 for healthcare workers), and maybe they're a little too hippy dippy still. When I was considering whether I was really too old to repierce my nose once I wasn't breastfeeding or donating blood anymore, or if I would just look like a sad middle aged person playing at rebellion - like an old guy who buys a convertible and pierces his ear - an octogenarian with purple hair, multiple face piercings, cat's eye glasses and Vivienne Westwood fashion sense walked by.
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Date: 2023-04-25 07:46 pm (UTC)"Clean vs. Dirty: A Way to Understand Everything", by Jeffrey Tucker at the Brownstone Institute.
https://brownstone.org/articles/clean-vs-dirty-a-way-to-understand-everything/
(Well, maybe not EVERYTHING - but an awful lot, in my opinion.)
"It suddenly dawned on me. It is possible to understand nearly everything going on today – the Covid response, the political tribalism, the censorship, the failure of the major media to talk about anything that matters, the cultural and class divides, even migration trends – as a grand effort by those people who perceive themselves to be clean to stay away from people they regard as dirty."
I've been saying as much for a long time now. At least, that has been my gut instinct about a big part of what has been going on with the PMC types for over three years now. It's rooted in a deep fear of social contagion and being sullied by contact with the "dirty" (underclass) people. Understand that, and you understand a great deal about why Cooties Theater was such a popular and long-running show with a certain segment of the populations.
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Date: 2023-04-25 11:34 pm (UTC)Yes, and my perception is that the people who are so obsessed with cleanliness are so obsessed because they feel unclean in some way, or more generally they feel less than others in some way, and they are attempting to assuage their anxiety by hiding from other people, and also by projecting dirtiness onto other people.
I would not be at all surprised if, reinforcing that anxiety about dirtiness, many of these masked-up people are caring for a fragile spouse and/or elderly parents, they are terrified of losing them, and terrified of being blamed and shamed if anything happens to these fragile loved ones-- and they never got the memo, that masks not only do not work, they are counterproductive. Try telling them that, though, and you will get exactly 50 meters further away from nowhere.
As individuals I wish the jabbed-up mask-wearers good health and peace. Politically, however, as a group I want to squash them.
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Date: 2023-04-25 08:27 pm (UTC)We all saw, starting in 2020, that public opinion could, even in complete contradiction to reality, shape our world. Everyone who suffered under a lockdown, or suffered from a refusal to vaccinate, or is now stuck wondering how bad that massive medical experiment will turn out, should be acutely aware that perceptions, if widely shared, matter a great deal. They shape policies, shape relationships, limit what is and is not acceptable in public discourse, and maintain a social order. Crucially, they don't even need to be true: the perception we were in a pandemic twisted our social order completely out of shape.
So, regardless of if it is true or not, the claim that the elite conspired to try to render us infertile and/or kill millions will dramatically increase the likelihood of major violence and people dangling from lampposts if widely believed.
Is anyone else noticing this shift towards Covid-as-Conspiracy, whether with other people online or with people they know in person? Does anyone have any ideas how to avoid major disasters if this ends up widely beleived?
https://www.rintrah.nl/in-defence-of-the-wef-phobic-conspiracy-theorists-the-case-against-bureaucratic-incompetence/
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Date: 2023-04-25 11:28 pm (UTC)Of greater interest to me is the SUICIDE angle he takes. The article states his belief that the elites took the vaccine along with the rest of the Western World, deciding that it would be better to die along with Western Society than to try to control what remains.
Shades of The Spirit of Wotan indeed, if Rintrah is correct.
– Donald Hargraves
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Date: 2023-04-25 08:36 pm (UTC)The following links contains the archives (.epub and .html, and for Vol. 2 and Vol. 3 there is .txt too)
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Date: 2023-04-26 01:08 am (UTC)Sapienter Si Sincere
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Date: 2023-04-25 09:20 pm (UTC)https://www.foxnews.com/us/fauci-absolves-himself-responsibility-lockdowns-testy-interview-show-me-school-that-i-shut-down
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Date: 2023-04-25 09:24 pm (UTC)https://expose-news.com/2023/04/25/leaked-new-zealand-health-data/
Religious affiliation since the coof?
Date: 2023-04-25 09:34 pm (UTC)If you belong to any kind of religions organization (or disorganized group!), have you noticed any change in the membership trends in the last three years? I ask because we've had an astonishing influx of new members at our parish in the last... year and a half? and it's definitely related to recent virus events. I'm extremely curious to know how this is playing out in other churches, denominations, religions, and geographic areas.
A lot of the new people are coming to us from other, less liturgically conservative Christian denominations, but some are coming from no church background at all... and for much the same reasons. It's hard to pinpoint exactly, but seems to be a sort of general yearning for a solid tradition to attach themselves to. But also a sense of urgency about it, that's new. I converted a long time ago, and among my fellow converts things were pretty chill-- the new crop seems to be in a big dang hurry, and there are a lot of them. It may or may not be related to the broader influx of new residents to my state, so I'd love to get a sense of how broad a trend it is.
So... for those of you who belong to any type of religious community, do you have a sense of recent trends? Have you seen an influx of new people? Are you losing people? If you're getting new people, do you have any sense of the mood among them? The reasons they're showing up?
Inquiring minds want to know...
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Date: 2023-04-26 10:36 am (UTC)Yes, I've lost track of the number of people I've met who tell me "I've come back to my faith recently" or whatever. I met a lawyer at the NCI who excitedly told me how he was getting baptized soon.
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Date: 2023-04-25 09:48 pm (UTC)I hope I'm wrong, but if the immune damage scenario is playing out, and if it is linked to Covid-19 infections as it seems like it might, I'm rather worried that a very nasty flu season (as in Spanish Flu level bad) this winter will be what does it. Given that there's still the True Covidians, I can't see any way that won't play out in a royal mess.....
calms, storms
Date: 2023-04-26 01:32 pm (UTC)This intrigues me, because nobody can say very clearly what it is that drove them into church, but the feeling is very much one of pursuit. There's something *out there* that they are looking for protection from. This is new-- I've been Orthodox for a lot of years now, and it's not something I've seen before. Our parish has probably doubled in size in the last year and a half.
So the question is: what is it? Nobody seems to know exactly, they just know they want to be settled into a religious community before it gets here. Plague? Famine? War? Hostile government? Who knows? Whatever it is, I think it's real, and the leading edge is being felt on a really visceral level by sensitive people... which is why I'm super curious to know if people in other religions, churches, and regions are seeing the same thing. The reach might tell us something about what it is.
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Date: 2023-04-25 09:59 pm (UTC)If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below.
This week I would like to bring special attention to a few prayer requests.
Nichole Cardillo has a cancerous tumor in her duodenum (in her small intestine) and she's going into surgery on May 1st to try to remove it; for a successful surgery that completely removes the cancer, and for blessings, protection, and a full return to health.
Patricia Mathew's friend Al (Alison Kulp) is in the hospital with a nasty life-threatening MRSA infection; please play for her to be blessed, protected, and completely healed as soon as is possible. (Update here.)
Luke Dodson's friend B, who is undergoing treatment for breast cancer, and is still in serious condition though she's already had surgery; for blessing, protection, healing, and a full return to health.
Lp9's request on behalf of their hometown, East Palestine Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people and all living beings in the area. The details coming out are still caught in the fog of war (Lp9 gives a short update here, and says "things are a bit... murky"), and various claims of catastrophe and non-catastrophe are flying about, but the reasonable possibility seems to exist that this is an environmental disaster on par with the worst America has ever seen. At any rate, it is clearly having a devastating impact on the local area, and prayers are certainly warranted.
If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
Roundtable of Horrors!
Date: 2023-04-25 10:07 pm (UTC)Ron M
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Date: 2023-04-25 10:24 pm (UTC)https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-vaccines-dont-have-prevent-infection-or-transmission
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Date: 2023-04-26 08:11 pm (UTC)I was waiting for this phase, that is, the phase where they tell so many lies that they entangle themselves in self-binding logic.
Now let them just try and use the 'common good' claim for any vex going forward (or backwards).
They can never claim you need to take a jab to 'protect grandma' ever again.
There is no longer a legal basis for mandates.
Taking a vex is now a selfish act, and since you can still transmit the disease, the vexed are walking super spreader events vectors. At least an unvexed person would show symptoms as a warning (if the vex actually worked).
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Date: 2023-04-25 11:15 pm (UTC)Which I want to call a 'retro theme' but I don't think I've ever seen it.
Open air convertibles always take me back to Dallas, Nov. 22, 1963.
Or the gas stations I used to walk past.
Or the avenue traffic interspersed with the odd convertible and radio music.
But I never saw a 'Noose-belt.' So yeah, for sure if the vaccine was a seatbelt. Ha!
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Date: 2023-04-25 11:17 pm (UTC)https://m.youtube.com/shorts/uU-dl4Me-pY
(For those who don't do video: a melancholy young man bemoans his social isolation after not getting the jab: all his jabbed friends are in quarantine with Covid!)
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Date: 2023-04-26 12:22 am (UTC)Some revised logo ideas from erika...thanks for the notes because it's so much more exciting for me with feedback
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Date: 2023-04-26 01:41 am (UTC)The WHO has recently published documents detailing how they are moving forward with a Global Digital Health Certification Network
https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/global-digital-health-certification
vaxxed people not a threat to the unvaxxed
Date: 2023-04-26 03:46 am (UTC)Here on my idyllic, but very woke, island in the Pacific there seems little danger of the vaxxed getting close enough to the unvaxxed to transmit any of their cooties. They are shunning us as if we did something wrong even though they must by now have given up on us catching and spreading Covid 19.
Maxine
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