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seatbeltAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Date: 2023-04-25 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And finally someone has written the article nailing down the nebulous idea that has been floating around in my head since sometime in 2020:

"Clean vs. Dirty: A Way to Understand Everything", by Jeffrey Tucker at the Brownstone Institute.

https://brownstone.org/articles/clean-vs-dirty-a-way-to-understand-everything/

(Well, maybe not EVERYTHING - but an awful lot, in my opinion.)

"It suddenly dawned on me. It is possible to understand nearly everything going on today – the Covid response, the political tribalism, the censorship, the failure of the major media to talk about anything that matters, the cultural and class divides, even migration trends – as a grand effort by those people who perceive themselves to be clean to stay away from people they regard as dirty."

I've been saying as much for a long time now. At least, that has been my gut instinct about a big part of what has been going on with the PMC types for over three years now. It's rooted in a deep fear of social contagion and being sullied by contact with the "dirty" (underclass) people. Understand that, and you understand a great deal about why Cooties Theater was such a popular and long-running show with a certain segment of the populations.

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Date: 2023-04-25 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Excellent essay by Jeffrey Tucker.

Yes, and my perception is that the people who are so obsessed with cleanliness are so obsessed because they feel unclean in some way, or more generally they feel less than others in some way, and they are attempting to assuage their anxiety by hiding from other people, and also by projecting dirtiness onto other people.

I would not be at all surprised if, reinforcing that anxiety about dirtiness, many of these masked-up people are caring for a fragile spouse and/or elderly parents, they are terrified of losing them, and terrified of being blamed and shamed if anything happens to these fragile loved ones-- and they never got the memo, that masks not only do not work, they are counterproductive. Try telling them that, though, and you will get exactly 50 meters further away from nowhere.

As individuals I wish the jabbed-up mask-wearers good health and peace. Politically, however, as a group I want to squash them.

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Date: 2023-04-26 02:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Clean vs. dirty made me think of this.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-speech-got-tucker-carlson-removed-fox-news

It’s definitely worth the few minutes. His call for prayer is telling. We’re truly in dark days but it’s speeches like this that keep me going.

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Date: 2023-04-26 04:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I second the recommendation.

Also, see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9eN19qkZRk&t=170s

Premiered Apr 20, 2023
Fox News host Tucker Carlson gives his take on Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s censorship for his views on COVID and the Ukraine war on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'

I note that YT does not provide a transcript on this one.

It is historic.

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Date: 2023-04-26 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I had already watched that before I posted the above, and yes, it's a good speech.

Tucker is expressing a position from what I think of as the old, "mainstream" right, while I come from what I think of as the "old" left (the FRD/JFK Democrats) - but lately, it seems like Tucker and I have been singing the same song. I agree with what he says about how old left-right debates used to be about policy issues and what's the best way to achieve a good society, and I suspect that people holding positions like the two of us could agree to disagree about various policy issues without feeling like we were enemies. But now something else is going on - something much darker and crazier. And that the "old" right and "old" left are both standing here shaking our heads and wondering together when it all went so off the rails. I even agree with Tucker about the prayer part - and like to think that he's enough of a libertarian that he wouldn't care if some of us were praying to pagan gods, just so long as we, like him, can see the need for prayer.
From: (Anonymous)
Might sound a bit tangential but have been meditating on this recently. The only place I might be able to post this and have people understand what I'm on about. This is not finished thoughts but really just offering a half baked intuitive insight. The genuine power I sense from the divine source has the ability to overturn this stuff about social contagion. Not a replacement for basic or even advanced hygiene but a complement to it -- the power of the divine to re-organize, to restore honour and grace, to reconnect us to our divine source and to each other?

I have been meditating on what the dissolution of the monasteries in England did. One possible thread is that it removed the vocational monastic infirmarian who not only cared for the the sick and elderly of the monastery but also potentially its supporting community. The Anargyroi saints are another beautiful example of what divinely inspired healthcare might look like. There is this sense I have of a greater, divine power, who wants to help with difficulties we humans get into like fretting about 'clean' and 'dirty' in social terms, the difficulties of social contagion and so on. There is a lot in the gospels of Jesus somehow reversing the polarity of unclean-ness, of laying hands and blessings on those suffering and the divine power wiping away the uncleanness and bringing genuine restoration.

What if some people are right now being trained through their mystical encounters to be able to banish social contagions and recall people to our underlying unity on the planet and in the divine source? A way through the cooties crisis through divine provision of individuals steeped in the divine power and equipped to banish the unclean-ness of mind and invoke the divine power, to pour out blessings and recall those who wish to be reunited to the solid ground of our essential unity as all those free offered access to the divine source of blessing and healing and spiritual nourishment and encouragement? The positive spiritual aspect of this predicament, using our distress at the state of things and what we have witnessed to centre in what a sane, divinely inspired alternative might look like? Our imaginations can help us to find it and then the divine power might be breathing through us to build it.

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From: (Anonymous)
Thank you so much for your comment jdecandia. It means a lot to me that this resonates with someone else too. Blessings on you and yours.

Scarlet Slithy Cactus

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Date: 2023-04-26 07:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thinking_turtle

Thanks for the link!

One curious thing is that people who virtue signal about Climate Change go on long plane rides for holidays in the sun. When I ask them about this they shrug it off, perhaps mentioning that they buy green electricity. When I ask them if they really believe in climate change, they angrily claim they are not conspiracy theorists.

Maybe class is the explanation. Very interesting.

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Date: 2023-04-26 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There has been some small scandal about this in Germany recently.

Some couple from Extinction Rebellion (or something along those lines) blocked traffic on a road for several hours. Apparently that's a legit way to combat climate change.
Anyway, they were sued and had to appear before court.
They didn't show up, tho, and it was discovered that they were on vacation in Thailand.
When journalists asked Extinction Rebellion about that, the response was "that they traveled as private individuals not as climate activists"

Some time after that Luisa Neubauer was asked to comment on this on obvious hypocrisy and said "it's better to have double standards than no standards at all"

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Date: 2023-04-30 10:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thinking_turtle

Thanks for the German facts!

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Date: 2023-04-26 03:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scotlyn
...the Great [Ungovernable] Unwashed...

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Date: 2023-04-26 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It started long before covid, its why Hillary said anyone who didn't vote for her or agree with her was a deplorable. TDS and covid are attached at the hip and i would suggest someone write an article about that.

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Date: 2023-04-26 07:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] frittermywig
For one essay that links TDS and covid, see James H. Kunstler, specifically his April 4, 2022 post, "A Theory of the Case."

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Date: 2023-04-27 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
These cracks in Murican society have been there for decades. The stresses have widened those hairline cracks into something structural at this point.

Nobody seems to have any plan to deal with this, either a plan to separate or fix the cracks to put it back together.
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