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cell saltsOver the last year the situation with regard to biochemic cell salts -- a mainstay of alternative health care in the US and some other countries, and also an important tool for certain spiritual paths (discussed in these posts), has gotten complex. Hyland's, the longtime source that most people in the US have used for half a century, has gone corporate; it bought up its main rival, Luyties, and then shut them down to expand its monopoly position; now it's reformulated its products in a way that makes them impossible to use for the spiritual purposes just mentioned.

Fortunately there are other sources. I've spent several months finding firms that manufacture and sell them direct to the public. I've had personal experience with only one of these firms so far, but my plan is to list them here, encourage readers to post any relevant experiences with them, and also invite people who've had good experiences with manufacturers not listed below to post comments of their own and let readers know of other resources.

It is worth noting, however, that it is not actually that difficult to make cell salts.  A century ago, every pharmacy in the country could whip up a batch promptly, and the kind of equipment typically used for the purpose is not that much more exotic than you'd find in a kitchen today. I have written up a detailed guide to compounding cell salts, using the procedures from a century-old manual of pharmaceutical compounding; you can find it here. Please note: I am not encouraging or advocating for anyone to do this. I present this information solely so that consumers of cell salts can know the process involved; also, of course, if the ongoing war on medical freedom ever results in cell salts being removed from sale, individuals will be prepared to make their own choices.

With that said, here are the firms I know of that manufacture and sell biochemic cell salts:

Allen Homoeopathy -- India has a remarkable talent for preserving old health care modalities, and this Indian homeopathic firm manufactures cell salts. It apparently does not deliver outside India, however.

Bee Healthy -- this American firm includes cell salts among its products. Its prices are on the high end but reviews are favorable.

Boiron -- this is one of the big European homeopathic manufacturers, based in France. As far as I can tell they don't sell direct to the public, but you can get them through pharmacies that sell online, like the one I've linked (which is in British Columbia, Canada).

DHU -- a German homeopathic firm with a focus on cell salts.

Dr. Masood -- A Pakistani homeopathic firm that sells a very wide range of products, including cell salts. I'm not sure how widespread their product line is distributed but I'd be surprised if you couldn't get their products through much of the Muslim world.

Elixirs.com -- based in Moses Lake, Washington, this firm provides cell salts along with other homeopathic medicine. This is the one I've done business with.

Helios Homeopathy -- a British firm that supplies medicines for a wide range of alternative healing modalities, including cell salts.

Häsler Homeopathic Laboratories -- a Mexican homeopathic firm recommended by a reader.

Homeoforce -- a British firm recommended by a reader.

Homeopathy Plus -- an Australian homeopathic supplier.

Homoempatia -- this German firm has a very broad assortment of biochemic products ("Schüssler Salze" in German) including tablets, pellets, liquids, and salves.

Jackson's Naturals -- this firm manufactures certified vegan cell salts.  Confusingly, they say they're a Canadian firm but proudly state that their products are manufactured in the US...

Martin and Pleasaunce -- an Australian firm that seems to be entirely focused on cell salts.

Médicor: -- a Mexican homeopathic firm recommended by a reader.

Nachure Labs -- a British homeopathic firm with cell salts among their other products.

New Era -- this is another firm that doesn't sell direct to the public, but their cell salts are available through many British chemists, including the one linked.

Omida -- a Swiss company selling cell salts and other homeopathic supplies.

RxHomeo.com -- a Texas firm that manufactures cell salts among other homeopathic remedies.

Unda -- a Belgian brand of cell salts, available in many countries.

Those are the firms I was able to find that have the twelve cell salts for sale. Some of them have Bioplasma or another compound of the 12 cell salts, but not all. Remember, if you're working with the Carey protocol, you need 6x cell salts for the regular monthly dose -- other dilutions are also available -- and the proper mix of ingredients for Bioplasma is given in the paper on compounding I've linked to above.

Oh, one other thing. Those who are interested in how cell salts have been used as a healing modality -- purely for informational and historical purposes, mind you -- might find these handbooks (available for free download) interesting and informative.

A Guide to the Twelve Tissue Remedies, by Edward Anschutz
The Treatment of Disease with the Twelve Tissue Remedies, by William Boericke (aimed at beginners)
The Twelve Tissue Remedies of Schussler, by Boericke and Dewey (this is the book that got me started)
The Biochemic System of Medicine by George W. Carey
Biochemistry by Joseph Chapman (also aimed at beginners)
A Complete Repertory of the Tissue Remedies, by Samuel Shannon (an advanced manual)

and...

God-Man: The Word Made Flesh
by George W. Carey and Inez Perry.  This one is seriously weird; it's the summation of Carey's long spiritual quest, which I wrote about here, and it's about as strange as early 20th century American alternative-spirituality literature gets, which is saying something. Readers who want a taste of Carey at his weirdest without venturing all the way in might dip their toes in his one contribution to science fiction, "A Road to the Moon." The quest for wisdom leads through strange places...

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Date: 2023-02-08 08:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hwistle
For those in the UK, I bought some from this British shop: https://www.homeoforce.co.uk/, they have quite a good range.

Manuel

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Date: 2023-02-08 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You are a well of knowledge and resources!

But, please don't allow the large transnational business buy you.

:)

Mythic Provence

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Date: 2023-02-08 09:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
Thanks for all these resources!

These don't ship outside Mexico but I have used both with good results.

- Häsler Homeopathic Laboratories: doesn't sell to public but has affiliated pharmacies on some mayor cities. You can contact them and do sell them to you if you buy a few jars. They have cell salts, bioplasma (called Las Schuesslerianas) and other homeopathic products.
- Médicor: Found on homeopathic pharmacies and on some of their own and also through their contact page. Mostly just bioplasma under the same name as above but I've seen kits with the 12 of them though perhaps only directly from their own stores.

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Date: 2023-02-08 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] milkyway1
Thank you _very_ much for posting this!! That‘s actually a lot easier than I thought - for some reason, I thought homeopathic preparations had to be shaken exactly umpteen times (a specifically counted number of times) at each stage.

One question: When you write „ Let it stand for a short time.“, are we talking about a few minutes? Or what else amounted to „a short time“ back in the day?

And another one: If there are any leftovers which don‘t dissolve, did people use to filter them out before storage or using?

(I guess the latter question was more of an issue with plant-based homeopathic material, so if you happen to know how that was handled, that would be of historical interest, too. :-) )

Thanks,

Milkyway

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Date: 2023-02-08 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you, I sincerely appreciate this!!

MILLICENTLY LURKING

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Date: 2023-02-08 10:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pleiadesdreaming
What exactly makes hyland's cellsalts unsuitable for Carey's protocol? Did they change the 'recipe' for their cell salts?

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Date: 2023-02-08 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] antoine_eva
For the tissue cell salts protol by Carey i used "Dr Reckeweg Schuessler Salts" because they are reasonably priced and available at nearby health store + Hylands's Bio-Plasma, because they dont have a 12x cells salts mix. Work well for me.

For book i love "The Biochemic Prescriber" by "Prashant S. Shah" very simple small book, you go by symptoms with worst by conditions, better by conditions and at then end you have your list of cells salts to take. Fixed a couple of my recurrents problem i had.

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Date: 2023-02-08 10:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jprussell
Thank you very much for these resources! This is the nudge I needed to get back on the Carey protocol, as sticking with it for as long as a bottle of bioplasma lasted me seemed to go well.

Two quick questions:

1) Any chance this line of research is leading to a new book?

2) In the linked essay, you mention that the base materials are available from "chemical supply houses", for those that aren't sold as food supplements - any recommendations on retailers in the US there? I found this site when looking for "chemical supply retail": https://chemicalstore.com/ but a quick search for the first two salts came up empty, and then when I searched for some specific salts (again, starting with calcium fluoride), most of the results seemed to be for industrial quantities at high prices. I can, of course, do more digging, but thought I'd see if you had any pointers for a head start.

Thanks much,
Jeff

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Thank You

Date: 2023-02-08 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Appreciate the explanation of what is happening. Was shocked when I went to buy Hyland's and found the price and amount you receive to be completely changed. Will look in to the links you have provided. Again, thank you for doing the research to find this information.

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Date: 2023-02-08 11:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] degringolade
I have been buying chemicals from my old suppliers through a buddy of mine still in the business (molecular biology). What is surprising to me is the level of obstruction placed in the way of consumers to obtain some of these compounds. I am not all that comfortable buying without a certificate of analysis and folks who make good chemicals are leery of selling them to the hoi polloi.

(BTW) Did you see Sy Hersh's piece at Substack today?

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Date: 2023-02-08 11:32 pm (UTC)
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Thank you for this. FYI for others - the Aaron's Pharmacy on the Boiron link was $16 to ship 1-3 bottles, or $20 to ship 4 bottles to the US.

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Date: 2023-02-08 11:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ganeshling
Nice! Thank you!

I've been mulling over learning the basics of Cell Salts for a while and now, by having all links in one place, you've made it too tasty to keep postponing it!

A couple of questions on making the salts if I may:

1. I have a small mortar that I use for alchemical preparations and nothing else. Would there be any cross-contamination problem either way if I use it to grind the salts? Alternatively, I have a small mortar that I use for not so strictly alchemical herbal/vegetable preparations. Is this one better for the job, provided I wash it with vinegar/baking soda/distilled water? Seeing that it's a once off job, I would rather not get another mortar just for that, if possible.

2. Does the alcohol need to be grain based? I have access to home made alcohol based on various sugars. If that can work, I'd be happy!

Thanks once again for all the work you do!

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Date: 2023-02-09 01:01 am (UTC)
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Good to know (not that I believe this). I have heard of you, but only in the last month started to read and consider your research, views, and etc.. I don't agreed with everything, but - a breathe of fresh air in these times.

Mythic Provence

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Date: 2023-02-09 01:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] slclaire
In case anyone in the US needs the various kinds of laboratory equipment that you cited in your post on making cell salts, I recommend American Science and Surplus, www.sciplus.com. I have gotten most of my herbal tincture making items from them, including the graduated cylinder you mentioned. They may ship to Canada; interested readers can check them out.

Most places that sell kitchen equipment carry mortars and pestles. AS&S also offers mortars and pestles if you don't have a good source for them nearby.

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Date: 2023-02-09 01:59 am (UTC)
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The last time I was in my local health food store, I found the Belgium-based Unda brand as their replacement for some of Hyland's stuff.

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Date: 2023-02-09 05:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
New Era is apparently now made by Dr Reckeweg in Germany, it's available in lots of places, including here in NZ. I suspect if you were pushed and rang, someone would post it overseas for you.

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Date: 2023-02-09 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sea_spray
Hi JMG

I was under the impression that water could also be used as a carrier instead of alcohol, have you seen any mention of that in what you've read?

Would it be possible to use a different carrier for the 6x dilution step only, possibly for 10ml as a time if it wouldn't last as long?

I have never touched alcohol in this life, possibly due to touching far too much in a past one, and I feel some concern about giving an alcohol based tincture to a child, and would like to avoid it myself if possible.

Thanks
Sea Spray

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Date: 2023-02-09 11:33 am (UTC)
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thanks for the info, John!
-A Spaniard.

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Date: 2023-02-09 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
For those in the US, it's possible to set up a buying club from a wholesaler and get some homeopathic products at a steep discount. They don't appear to have cell salts but they do have some of the Boiron products. https://wholesale.frontiercoop.com/search/wholesale_frontiercoop_com?search=homeopathic&type=1

Prices are not listed without an account but I have found them to be about 50% cheaper than the local health food store.

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Date: 2023-02-09 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I immediately thought of homeschool supply houses for small amounts, I homeschooled thru high school chemistry for my youngest. But, my first look into a standard supply house for that did not have much for experiments with this protocol. My first look showed only 3 sodium's such as https://www.homesciencetools.com/product/sodium-phosphate-30-g/. Of course, these are very inexpensive. This supply house does sell the glass ware needed.

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Date: 2023-02-09 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jeffinwa
I've used Elixirs.com for a few years now for cell salts and been very happy with them. I checked their web site this morning and from what I can tell they still have some Hylands available. The Bioplasma from Hylands is no longer listed but they do have their own 12 salt formula (all 12 at 12x in pellet form) which differs from Hylands formula (3 salts at 6x and 9 salts at 3x). I've no idea how this would relate to the Carey protocol.

It looks like they are starting to replace Hylands with their own product for individual salts as Hylands are apparently being sold out from their inventory. I don't know how their pellet form should be translated into Hylands tablet form; how many pellets = 1 tablet?

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Europe online store

Date: 2023-02-09 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fragilecity
I found a German online Store with cell salts packs:
https://www.homoempatia.eu/product/biochemie-pflueger-komplett-set-1-27.380216.html

And what seems to be the mix of the 12 cell salts:
https://www.homoempatia.eu/product/druefusan-tabletten-syxyl.440243.html

But I am a newbie in this topic, so I don't know if they are good.
Thank you for the posts!

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Date: 2023-02-10 03:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Many thanks for the info, JMG. In mid-2022, Hyland stopped providing cell salts in Canada and I have been running low. Now I have a couple of options to pursue!

Ron M

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Date: 2023-02-10 11:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Switzerland has Omida
https://www.omida.ch

The website is in either German or French.

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Tissue/Cell Salts

Date: 2023-02-10 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In Canada, UNDA tissue salts are available, based on preparation using Schussler methods (says on pkg). "UNDA is a homeopathic products company established 1949 in Belgium. Exceptional homeopathic products that use only pure materials and herbs that are biodynamically grown or wildcrafted. Its diverse product line includes single-ingredient and combination homeopathic remedies, topical creams, tablets, and natural health products. UNDA products are formulated using a combination of GMO-free plant, mineral, and organic raw materials obtained primarily from local sources."

From my research, ie pkg size and quantity,' tablets' seem to have same meaning as 'pellets', reading the dosage will also indicate, imo, a 'pellet' size.

Thanks to you and commenters for info.
Donna
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