Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.     

Comments

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

[kayr]

I really enjoy Charles' essays. I guess he is simply asking for what every good wizard is suppose to achieve, self knowledge. Simple, but not that easy to distinguish your own anger from your hate. I think it is easy to hate, but hard figure out what to do with your anger that is constructive.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

[(Anonymous)]

My best guess is that we are being asked to treat the objects of our anger as if they were people we love, like a child or spouse or other close relative. Beloved people do things that anger us, and how do we react? Usually not with the full force of hate and malice and vengeance that we accord to our enemies, right?

So to love our neighbors as ourselves, we make the effort to stand in their shoes and see what they see from their perspective. We discharge the hot anger in some form of necessary work, hard physical labor or an angry stomping dance to music that energizes and dissipates energy.

Then we are left with cool anger and we begin to plan. Plan what? Whatever it takes to get across to the offending parties that we find A, B, C, Q, and X situations intolerable and that we will not put up with those. At all. On those we will fight and make life most unpleasant for the Offenders.

That We find D thru P and R situations less obnoxious but still smelly. These are negotiable and we are willing to consider options that will allow Us and Them to get some of what we each want some of the time.

We firmly state what we find valuable about our relationship with Them and that we are unwilling at this time to damage the relationship. We ask for their responses to our declarations and then we listen and consider what has been said.

It is dreary work. Tedious, icky, time consuming, heart-achy and head-knocking work. But, being the grown-ups in the room, we do it the best we know how.

This is what we do unless we perceive that there is clear and present danger to us or Anyone and then we take immediate steps to halt the Offenders in their tracks and prevent them from doing more harm.

Don’t know if this answers your question.
I was more or less trying to work out a game plan for myself.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

[kayr]

Thanks for your ideas. I think you are right about dreary work, very tedious and of course, case by case, situation by situation. I have already told one friend that I wouldn't discuss COVID with her anymore as I valued our friendship too much to damage it by continuing in such discussions. I don't think my anger was quite cool yet in that situation, but I wanted it to be, so I just called Pax. As time goes on, I think my original knee jerk othering reactions have calmed down. I may not love the COVIDIANS in my life, but at least, I don't want to other them, I hope. I think there is something of Aikido or Sun Tsu about all this. Seems to me that when your anger seeks expression in hate, you have already hit the matt.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know, it's all a bit grandiose and flowery for me. Like somebody in love with their own prose.
I don't want to boil in hate
but no I don't want to cut 'Jerry' any slack for drunk-driving into the kids out for a ride in a hay wagon pulled by Ol' Nessie.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

[(Anonymous)]

(commenter with self-evaluation)
I'm not sure I said this in the best spirit. I think the comments in the first two sentences
are somewhat, more than somewhat, 'dingy' and unfair.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

[(Anonymous)]

Charles Eisenstein’s prose is very measured, stately and processional. Probably this is a habit acquired from addressing people whose minds dwell in academic circles, who are all thinking of how best to challenge any errors and contradict whatever anyone else says. Mainly because that kind of sharp clashing / quick reaction is key to their success, status, and survival at work. Like revving up rivalry between Army and Navy on the football field and everybody dissing the Coast Guards. The idea is to be always ready for battle with a keen loyalty to Your Own Side.

So Eisenstein has to say everything indirectly. Each point he makes has to be repeated three times always from a different angle. He goes in with shields up, plants his foot securely on common ground. Every step he takes after that is carefully placed and defended from all sides. Otherwise, he cannot occupy territory claimed by the other fellows.

It seems needlessly wordy to someone who simply says what they mean and means what they say. But words are tricky and have a mind of their own, in print especially. They sometime twist up to look us in the face like the flamingo Alice uses to hit the hedgehog when playing Looking-glass croquet.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you. I realized I was in the muck when I critiqued him in a small manner. This comment from you is mind-expanding.