Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66
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So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
mundane question for at-home medical care
Date: 2022-11-08 07:04 pm (UTC)Voted against Covidianism
Date: 2022-11-08 07:09 pm (UTC)I hope everybody who feels so inclined will put a prayer out there that whoever wins and whatever happens, sanity will prevail.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-08 07:33 pm (UTC)- that is so boosted, boosted beyond belief
- go boost yourself
- he really boosted them, right in the arm
International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-08 07:44 pm (UTC)Re: Voted against Covidianism
Date: 2022-11-08 07:47 pm (UTC)Re: Voted against Covidianism
Date: 2022-11-08 08:12 pm (UTC)Miller (of 'died suddenly' substack fame) had an interesting post about the election:
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/what-we-might-learn-about-this-next
Re: Voted against Covidianism
Date: 2022-11-08 08:17 pm (UTC)I will also put out a prayer for sanity; but something tells me to also pray for justice.
– Donald Hargraves
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-08 08:26 pm (UTC)https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/205767.html?thread=36225735#cmt36225735
Secondly an update. The Oil Lady is now at home, and it turns out that she refused the "blood patch procedure", and this for an interesting reason. She had a visit yesterday morning from a new anaesthesiologist, who she had not met before. This doctor confessed that the same thing (cerebrospinal fluid leak following a botched epidural) had happened to her. When the Oil Lady asked whether the doctor had accepted the blood patch procedure, the doctor said, "no, I took the conservative treatment route, and rested at home. It took three weeks, but the leak eventually sealed up." Armed with this advice, my friend decided to go home. She is now on bedrest, with good help (she has three older children, too). But still with the headache, and the leak has not resolved yet.
So, the prayer request still stands, but the situation has altered. In many ways for the better, as she is in her own home. Even though sticking to the task of resting may be more challenging there.
Anyway, all prayers are welcome. As she has herself confirmed to me.
Re: mundane question for at-home medical care
Date: 2022-11-08 08:26 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-08 08:34 pm (UTC)https://www.oilystuffblog.com/single-post/seven-sisters-1994-1
open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments
Date: 2022-11-08 08:38 pm (UTC)The following links contains the archives (.epub and html, and for Vol. 2 text too)
Volume 1 (everything before 1st March 2022)
Volume 1 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/8dBxzC4B#AkuddhK1eMAHK8xtCquBd7Es_19uU0UVAuO26PJ61ow
Volume 1 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/8JYV3QBT#ydwISn-_JZGsa3KCfNlMPZSmCKWEFgTYMJJnsvN0D9c
Volume 2 (everything after 1st of March)
Volume 2 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/INBEUapS#hp4rZVkoJCZ4yKEfz-gr48iMpOfLcSVqFWHeoGWq5a4
Volume 2 - .txt archive
https://mega.nz/file/lQ5mEDiR#hrMVcUi03aJLuODjvTrFQbrmq4IRfqJMdO-Osd4c8Rc
Volume 2 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/xFomBI4K#qXMkKUAW2TErbruBb9i7pp30QNmQ8I-0isT7Yj1gfbo
Volume 3 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/hRwjFDyT#P9qXYVZnHjW6ZVWZ6WCMPxi8h6phkEPJvCK-eF8-6Ok
Volume 3 - .txt archive
https://mega.nz/file/8F4FFaCB#XEiRbGy1AX-VuINlLLCoqe9D1udUZo5i3YoH_yWFa88
Volume 3 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/EN5TiZxS#7XvAW7wdB_oy-MafKuM_2HJt3MgAXZjZrfDZo8it-Lg
Re: Voted against Covidianism
Date: 2022-11-08 08:41 pm (UTC)Questioning "The Science"
Date: 2022-11-08 08:52 pm (UTC)Excerpt:
"There's a debate in philosophy about whether science produces real knowledge--perhaps to the surprise of many scientists! The predictive power of scientific theories would seem to suggest that they are offering accurate descriptions of the world. Yet theories do change over time- scientists used to be confident about the existence of "ether". Will the unobservable entities and best-explanations we posit today stand the test of time?
What about the amyloid hypothesis? In 2006 [a researcher] discovered an unknown polymer AB*56,which when isolated and injected into the brains of mice, caused Alzheimer's-like symptoms...And since then, many millions--perhaps billions--of dollars have been spent developing anti-AB therapies, with little to no success. Now, a 6-month investigation led by Science magazine has found that the 2006 study may contain fabricated results.
If true, the findings would cast doubt on 16 years of research- consider that more than 2300 papers cite the original study.
...
Do scientists, on the whole, put too much stock in the findings of individual papers and the peer review process?
...Regardless of any fabrication, other researchers have struggled to reproduce [the] results, so should the paper have been ctied 2300 times? What proportion of researchers cast a truly skeptical eye over the findings?"
Page 9 is their regular contributor Victoria Samanidou's article "Academic Integrity Volume 3: An Indecent Proposal" -- a great series overall -- taking aim at pay-to-publish journal editors. She suggests to revisit the Committee of Publication Ethics [COPE] guidelines, and speak out (send her a letter) about the new schemes you see.
An anonymous letter writer to her last column says he sees "abusive" reviewers:
"Abusive reviewers may become aware (by early citation, arXiv, word of mouth) that a "target" paper or researcher is under review, and then write to the journal's editor demanding to be made a reviewer.
...
When decision letters for contributed papers are sent, it's common practice to send all reviews to all reviewers...
Scathing anonymous reviews will damage the paper's authors in the eyes of the other unnamed reviewers...
Reviewers in the first round are often asked to review the revision...a reviewer may [then] stridently attack another reviewer's first review, and...damn the work of third parties by name.
I've also seen reviewers attacking papers of students of professors with whom they've had a disagreement, even if these students are publishing independently.
...
Abusive reviewers are also authors, and such authors have been known to add a few sentences to the typesetters proof of accepted papers."
I thought all that was very topical.
Re: Voted against Covidianism
Date: 2022-11-08 08:58 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-08 08:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-08 09:21 pm (UTC)Ron M
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-08 09:51 pm (UTC)Another IM Doc post
Date: 2022-11-08 10:14 pm (UTC)------------------------------
IM Doc
November 2, 2022 at 2:47 pm
Regarding the article above about questioning the tactics of the current Dem effort in the midterms.
I would point you to this article as well –
https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-suburban-women-swing-toward-backing-republicans-for-congress
White suburban women, in the blue areas – have apparently been polled recently as going from a D+18 group just weeks ago – to a R+15 group now – a 33 point difference. There are articles all over the place today in the MSM stating that this is simply impossible. The denial is breathless – bordering on frantic.
I would venture that those denial articles are being written by reporters who are looking at shining screens all day and not out on the beat with the voters. It is very difficult to tell what is going on in the world from a screen. This is one of the major faults of our society.
They should be out talking to ministers, Chamber of Commerce people and primary care providers like me. They may have a more clear picture than what is had by lampooning these articles amongst their friends on Twitter.
These articles are all blaming the economy. I am certain that is playing some role. But I have also noticed something unique starting in mid-October.
I live in a very blue area. I have many young mothers and grandmas, Rachel MSNBC viewers all, in my practice. And something started to happen a few weeks ago then that has only been accelerating – 3 times already this AM.
This is a composite sketch of the interaction…….
Patient – IM Doc, are you having your kids vaccinated with the COVID shots?
IM Doc – No Ma’am – not even remotely enough evidence for a risk/benefit ratio to even consider doing so.
Patient – I agree. My children/grandchildren will not be vaccinated…..Do you agree with the CDC vote to put them on the vaccine schedule for kids? So and so politician on the news the other night stated if the CDC put them on the schedule they will have to be taken to go to school. I do not think they are that helpful for my kid. They certainly did not stop all of us adults from having Omicron twice this year already.
IM Doc – I most certainly do not agree – again – there is nowhere near enough evidence to do so. Many of us are concerned that experimental vaccines do not belong on that list at all. Polio, MMR, all the others absolutely. But the COVID vaccines have not near enough evidence for that placement.
Patient – I agree. And thank you for being honest. Do you think that “public official 1″ is going to now mandate this for my kids/grandkids to go to school” – I will assume they are – they have mindlessly done every other stupid thing the CDC has recommended the past 2 years…..If they do so – I will not vote for the Dems at all. I am sick and tired of this.
This is happening over and over and over again. And I mean over and over.
Add that to the large number of working class and minority families in my practice that have historically been Dem voters who themselves or friends or families were absolutely screwed by the vaccine mandates – again, I remind everyone a mandate for a product that was non-sterilizing and does not stop transmission – and we are starting to have some real problems for the Dems.
When you are a physician in a small town – sometimes you hear things from patients that they tell you out of their stress or frustration. Like the local official just yesterday tasked with counting the early votes who told me – “this is going to be a shocker.”
Who knew that the October Surprise this year was the 15-0 CDC vote, Dem donors all, to place these vaccines on the kiddy schedule and get the mandate ball rolling all over the country? They say that is not the case – but after people watching their local officials bend to the will of the CDC over the past 3 years, I do not blame the people for thinking this way at all. There is also clearly a gnawing realization among my patients that games are being played. With their kid’s lives. Patterns matter. And unless a forceful hard no is coming from the governor, the lingering doubt will continue.
Suburban moms and grandmas put up with a lot of stuff – but you start screwing with their kids health and lives without coherent reasoning – and there will be hell to pay.
The vaccine mandates from last year, I continue to firmly believe, are going to be one of the greatest political self-owns in American history. This kid vaccine schedule thing and, more importantly, the profound and completely unanswered confusion it is causing, may be right up there as well.
Dem politicians – if you are reading this you may do yourselves a lot of favor by speaking out now. This is really and truly happening. It appears to be dramatically affecting one of your core constituencies in blue America.
And Dem politicians of the future – before you get into bed with one of the worst corporations in American history, that has been found guilty of fraud and charged billions of dollars in the past, you should keep the shellacking you are about to undergo in mind. Blind following of these kind of entities usually does not end well.
And my own professional leaders better start paying attention as well. The wrath is now pointed at the politicians. That will soon be pointed right at this profession. The first and most important thing is to be honest at all times.
Boost!
Date: 2022-11-08 10:31 pm (UTC)My high school had a "booster club" that organized fundraisers for athletics.
MSN for today
Date: 2022-11-08 10:34 pm (UTC)First, a warning: drinking Fizzy drinks, Low-quality fruit juices (added sugar, no pulp), Cordials, or Energy drinks may cause blood clots.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/blood-clots-warning-four-types-of-drinks-to-avoid-can-cause-hardening-of-arteries/ar-AA13kIQg
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/the-simpsons-and-rick-and-morty-producer-j-michael-mendel-dead-at-54/ar-AA13NWYw
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tiffany-tycoon-dies-after-falling-from-cruise-ship-while-on-holiday-with-boyfriend/ar-AA13QCQu
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/adam-zimmer-s-death-details-revealed-docs-say-coach-had-bruising-or-blood-pooling-around-his-eye/ar-AA13S3Hy
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/former-kenzo-dior-executive-fran%C3%A7ois-baufum%C3%A9-dies-at-77/ar-AA13Qk0R
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/oscar-tony-nominated-writer-director-douglas-mcgrath-dies/ar-AA13QjQY
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/music/hurricane-g-dead-tributes-flood-in-for-nyc-rapper-gloria-rodriguez/ar-AA13OSOi
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/artifacts-rapper-tame-one-dead-at-52/ar-AA13QcN9
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/mimi-parker-drummer-and-vocalist-of-indie-rock-band-low-dies-at-55/ar-AA13OtHb
Re: Questioning "The Science"
Date: 2022-11-08 10:45 pm (UTC)The estimate is that 70% of published research findings cannot be replicated. In other words, crap.
IM Doc again, from today
Date: 2022-11-08 10:46 pm (UTC)IM Doc
November 8, 2022 at 3:33 pm
About the Dr. Leonardi article about T-cell dysfunction in COVID.
The article that Lambert has referenced is something I think we should all read and contemplate. The article is written for all to understand. It is not full of jargon and medicalese.
The basic hypothesis being put forth is that COVID is exhausting our immune systems, particularly the T-cells, which are the “ace in the hole” for any immune action against a virus.
I have heard this line of thinking debated in academic conferences for the past 2 years many times. I think it is becoming clear ( an in now way a consensus ) that this line of thinking is absolutely plausible.
Right up front, this type of situation is already found in other human viral infections, most notably dengue fever, the defining pattern of which is that the second and subsequent infections are much worse, often lethal, than the first. Years of research have realized that a large component of this problem has to do with an exhausted immune system.
Secondly, one could posit if this was really the case that eventually, the communal immune system would be so wiped out that fighting other infectious agents, both group and individually, may be a problem. Look around you. I have never seen so much RSV in my life. And now the flu is coming right up behind. Lots and lots of non-COVID illness. And especially the RSV – this has never been this pathogenic an infection in my career until the past few months.
I ask very tough questions in conferences. Someone has to.
If I were in a conference with Dr. Leonardi, I would have the following ready to go……
“It is crystal clear in my practice, and in the chatter I hear from docs all around me, that the vaccinated patients are mainly the ones we are seeing quite literally over and over again. I have many that are now on infection #4 or 5. Again, this is clearly much more common in the vaccinated. Indeed, we now have studies coming in from everywhere that the VE ( vaccine effectiveness) often goes negative in many age groups and demographics only after a few weeks/months….the most recent is the Qatari study from NEJM just days ago. IOW, the vaccinated are very quickly becoming much more likely to be vaccinated. This is certainly obvious to me looking at my practice. If this is so, Dr. Leonardi, are you aware of the vaccines mitigating this effect on frequent infections? If not, is this not putting the vaccinated in more damage given your model?”
That to me is the elephant in the room…..and I am hearing it being discussed nowhere. Unfortunately, I am starting to see in the multiply infected a significant propensity toward frequent other infections, shingles, severe fatigue, and lack of desire for exercise.
There is so much we need to know – now. We need those who are unafraid to ask hard questions. But as was pointed out to me just a few weeks ago by one of my elder professors – critical thinking has been quashed. We simply cannot tolerate misinformation. Those who engage in it are the evildoers – just look at the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/18/opinion/fake-news-media-attention.html
There really will need to be a day of accountability for all of this. Meanwhile, there are those of us out on the fruited plain, who have practices literally full of these kinds of patients. With all kinds of questions.
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shinola
November 8, 2022 at 4:21 pm
“IOW, the vaccinated are very quickly becoming much more likely to be vaccinated.”
Huh…?
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IM Doc
November 8, 2022 at 4:30 pm
Sorry – it should read – IOW, the vaccinated are very quickly becoming more likely to be infected
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-08 10:53 pm (UTC)1. What would you do if you were in my situation?
2. If I do X treatment, what additional outcomes should I be aware of?
3. Would you recommend this intervention for your wife/husband/sister brother?
It sounds like she got the doctor to give her #1. I've never had to ask all three of a doctor to get the full story, but any one of them gets the conversation rolling in a productive direction if asked in a friendly, open way.
More prayers incoming for her and her family!
November Eclipse and Blood Moon
Date: 2022-11-08 10:55 pm (UTC)During the time I gradually cast an I Ching using coin method. Result: 30. Li / The Clinging, Fire, one of the double hexagrams. It seemed a very appropriate reading for the moment. Changing lines were 2 and 3 which give very contradictory indications:
Yellow light. Supreme good fortune.
and
In the light of the setting sun,
Men either beat the pot and sing
Or loudly bewail the approach of old age.
Misfortune.
The resulting hexagram is 38. K'uei / Opposition and I cite the notes from Wilhem's translation:
THE JUDGMENT
OPPOSITION. In small matters, good fortune.
When people live in opposition and estrangement they cannot carry out a great undertaking in common; their points of view diverge too widely. In such circumstances one should above all not proceed brusquely, for that would only increase the existing opposition; instead, one should limit oneself to producing gradual effects in small matters. Here success can still be expected, because the situation is such that the opposition does not preclude all agreement. In general, opposition appears as an obstruction, but when it represents polarity within a comprehensive whole, it has also its useful and important functions. The oppositions of heaven and earth, spirit and nature, man and woman, when reconciled, bring about the creation and reproduction of life. In the world of visible things, the principle of opposites makes possible the differentiation by categories through which order is brought into the world.
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Any other insights or observations from the eclipse as an indication of the time ahead?
Or is it bosh?
Re: Voted against Covidianism
Date: 2022-11-08 10:58 pm (UTC)I thought about not going, as most of the stuff being voted on here is a foregone conclusion, except the schoolboard race, which I don't care a lot about (though TBH the challenger seems off his rocker). But I just had three days of relentless deja-vu experiences, and it sort of imbued the current... whatever it is, with a weird sense of extra significance. So I went. And the deja vu seems to have stopped, so yay. It was unsettling.