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Smudge for the winAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.     

Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 02:03 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Will the mask people - see Naked Capitalism, or my sister - ever accept that masks don't work?

These people still cling to the belief that if only everyone wore a mask everything would be fine. Is there some sort of magic effect of the masks that creates a hold over certain people to believe that masks will solve all the worlds problems?

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 03:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This one to me is really the mark of a true believer. You can post so many resources at this stage which highlight that they are not effective.

I usually try to caveat, maybe in a perfect world where everyone is given N95s, was properly fitted, and changed them as needed. But nope, they just ignore any studies, our own outcomes, and repeat the lines "masks reduce spread".

Was just suspended from a subreddit today for trying to explain and was told to stop spreading misinformation...many comments said that in fact so lots of time to go until people let go of this one if ever.

Today I was walking outside on a nice trail in a creek near my home, a women walked by wearing a mask...it's so confusing.

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 10:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The mask is virtue signaling. It makes me wonder, what if dogs could call each other good boys instead of having us hoomans do it for them? What kind of weird behavior do you think you'd see out of dogs?

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As I see it, anyone wearing a surgical mask when and where it is not required by law is

#1 - very possibly sick
#2 - very possibly a hypochondriac
#3 - definitely, dangerously ignorant


About #3 --

Why ignorant? Because masks do not work, this has been established in multiple studies and, more to the point, as plainly stated by a licensed industrial hygienist in his testimony to a state legislature, viruses are smaller than asbestos particles, and for asbestos particles, masks do not work-- he would lose his license to even suggest such a thing!
See Stephen Petty:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/181151.html?thread=29634975#cmt29634975
and continued, more about masks (see below)
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/181151.html?thread=29676959#cmt29676959

Why is this dangerous? Because if a person believes masks work, chances are they'll also believe a lot of other harmful nonsense, for example, that we need lockdowns, social distancing, vaxx requirements and mandates, and whatever else the nice people on TV and the whoring shills in the MSM tell them is "goodthink."

Grumbling Grumbledore

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dabilahro
I'd add a 4th bucket, for people who just don't care about following what rules are needed to get on in their life.

I know some people who don't care either way who wore masks when it was required just to not be a hassle to the employees in those places who did not set the policies.

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Fair enough. Where I'm seeing the mask wearing these days, however, those rules are no more.

Grumbling Grumbledore.

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
While I do not find that confusing, I certainly do find it sad.

And I pity the mask true believers. Not only are they not breathing very well in those nasty things, but anyone who gets angry at you for spreading "misinformation" about masks-- when there is a Himalaya of evidence that the masks do not work, for anyone who cares to look at it-- has probably already had 3- 4 mRNA NLP-laden shots already, plus the 8 mouse special.

It breaks my heart, but they've chosen their path.


Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 10:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The mask was never about science for the true believers. The marketing around it was always about showing how you care about people by wearing one. People who wear them do so to signal they are kind, thoughtful, and put others first.

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That's what **they probably think** they are signalling, I'll grant you that. To me they are signalling that they are gullible goody two shoes all in with jabbing everyone including babies with poison.

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 07:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
My Dad used to say, back when turning your baseball cap backward, and then wearing low-waisted pants with high-waisted underwear, was the new dumb cool thing to do, (paraphrasing heavily) don't get annoyed or try to change people's behavior, when they're signaling their idiocy for you. It saves you so much time, knowing that up front. If they hide it, you'll have to waste time talking to them to find out...

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-10 10:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So true!!

This thought is alchemical! A twinge of annoyance transmuted to a blip of gratitude!

Thank you.

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-10 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthspirit
You know that saying about when you point a finger, where the rest all point back, too?

As a teenager, I remember being grateful that my eyeliner and clothing was all it took to keep people like that from wasting my time, too.

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 04:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
It's the new AIDS ribbon.

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-11 12:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I looked up the Seinfield episode/clip about that yesterday!

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-09 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Our biological design and evolution didn't lead us to walk around with a face covering that blocks air flow and accumulates excreted substances around our mouth. Masks are useless and harmful, just like the jab of course.

They're a psychological weapon, plus a way for the compliant to signal their sheepyness. The reality is a significant proportion of people are 'gone'. Don't let them take you with them.
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