Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66
Nov. 8th, 2022 01:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 01:28 am (UTC)Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 02:59 am (UTC)Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 11:36 am (UTC)Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 12:23 pm (UTC)I even found an affidavit that one could print out from the US gov that allowed citizens a form to fill out which allowed for medical and religious exemptions. I printed that and had it ready. I didn't save it but I'm sure with some internet-ing you could find it. I originally went through all the state dept or CDC links so it must connect via there somehow. I was shocked at how easy it was despite all the scare tactics and that there was even a government form with an obvious loophole that no one seems to talk about.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 04:50 pm (UTC)Canadian citizens entering Canada have not been so lucky, from what I hear.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 11:09 pm (UTC)The rules are whatever they make up at the time. Very 3rd world vibe.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-10 10:03 am (UTC)I agree, in my experience, the rules are whatever they make up at the time. I have some wildly annoying stories myself.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-10 02:28 am (UTC)It was also never possible to legally keep out a Canadian citizen -- it was explicitly on the TravelCan website that citizens were always allowed back in. I knew a few people who travelled unvaccinated to other countries that hadn't had the travel vaccine mandate and came back; a lot of people didn't actually realise that there was a Canadian mandate, because so long as you weren't trying to go to the US, they still felt free.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-10 04:44 am (UTC)Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 10:25 pm (UTC)Requirement for Proof of COVID-19 Vaccination for Air Passengers
Required for non-U.S. citizen, nonimmigrant passengers arriving from a foreign country to the United States by air
Previously a certificate of testing within 24 hours of departure was required of everyone, including US citizens. That was dropped. Now only non-citizens require proof of vaccination.
One if flying. If you walk across the border you will be fine, apparently.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 11:19 pm (UTC)This policy akes sense, of course, to bureaucrats. The CDC does say cooties19 is an airborne disease.
*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-10 10:03 am (UTC)Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-10 09:57 am (UTC)The first time I flew from the US to Europe where I did not need any test or vaxx certificate the check-in agent was insistent that I needed a vaxx certificate, but I was insistent that I did not (because I had checked and for where I was flying, the requirements had been removed). In a big huff, clearly disgusted with me, she went to check with her supervisor and, after quite a long while, returned, now very, very subdued. It was as if some grey veil had come over her. She didn't say anything more about requirements, but tersely checked me in as if nothing had happened.
I cannot say what exactly was going on in her mind but I do know that many people who did not want to get vaxxed went and got vaxxed because they believed they had to if they ever wanted to work and/or travel again. Somehow, from the beginning, my intuition alarms told me this was not true, and that I would just need to be a little bit patient.
So here's my guess-- just guess: it was sort of like maybe she had paid a big price, but neener-neener, here's someone who got by for free-- so the game wasn't what she thought it was!
But speaking of the game not being what she thought it was, I think that's how it is for all of us, actually. There is something so deeply weird about all of it.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-12 03:36 pm (UTC)*I* was made to (get a jab, wear a mask, pee in a cup, whatever) in order to get/keep my job, so it's NOT FAIR is you aren't ALSO made to suffer the way *I* was!!
A lot of people who SHOULD be opposed to mandates and other forms of government over-reach are going to support them, because it's more important to them that everyone else have to suffer the way they did than that the suffering stop.
I guess it's psychologically easier to want to impose the same rules/suffering on other people than it is to face the fact that you were some combination of abused, tricked, manipulated, or victimized, while other people escaped.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-12 06:42 pm (UTC)Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 03:57 pm (UTC)The horror of it, is that it *does* affect people who are non-citizen legal residents, even those who are married to US citizens. I have heard a number of stories about such people having to move their families outside the US in order to be together.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-13 04:18 am (UTC)