Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66
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ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Layoffs Just This Month
Date: 2022-11-09 04:36 pm (UTC)Re: open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments
Date: 2022-11-09 04:37 pm (UTC)Volume 3 starts with Open Post On bovid 59
Re: WORDLE
Date: 2022-11-09 04:39 pm (UTC)LoL
my new favorite word
Re: open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments
Date: 2022-11-09 04:41 pm (UTC)Re: MSN for today
Date: 2022-11-09 04:47 pm (UTC)https://comic-watch.com/news/comic-book-news/rest-in-power-legendary-artist-carlos-pacheco-1961-2022-passes-away-after-battle-with-als
https://twitter.com/theVoice123/status/1590348835683205120
Re: Masks
Date: 2022-11-09 04:48 pm (UTC)Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 04:50 pm (UTC)Canadian citizens entering Canada have not been so lucky, from what I hear.
Re: Belated response to MARK...
Date: 2022-11-09 04:52 pm (UTC)Thanks for the pep talk-counseling session-stream of consciousness reflections :-).
It had not occurred to me to question the story of male emotional repression. As in - what if the painful transition from sensitive crying little boy to comparatively stoic and detached man (amidst some serious bullying and family separation) doesn't represent trauma in need of healing but just a stage of growth? Maybe the current fad of "identity validation" and victimhood and focus on "microaggression" offenses and emotionality is childish in a sense, and it would be better if more people could cultivate a sense of detachment?
Anyway, I am certainly not emotionally "dead" like many of the people on meds of all types. I can be big-picture detached but when it comes to meaningful interactions with individuals I am very much emotionally present. So much so that I simply can't imagine the polyamory and casual sex that seems so common these days - that would quickly overwhelm my emotional circuits.
If I'm struggling a bit at the moment, I'm searching for a new identity of sorts. My work the last few years has been all solitary craftsmanship - not so different from art - but after sending over 100 of my designs out into the world I've grown weary of it and am ready to set it free: handing it off to a manufacturer who will continue to build them. It feels like transitioning from being a writer who also makes the paper from scratch and prints the pages and binds the books to being more of an author with a publisher, so it should be a positive transition but it means I will see a smaller share of the dollars and also will need to figure out what to do with my time.
I'm not sure yet what is next for me - I want it to be DOING but also more as part of a team or community.
I think that in creating community I need to let go of a particular fragile and comparative identity I have constructed for myself that tends to shape my social interactions and to give me a particular role/status that is valued but also "apart from" in a way (https://dendroica.substack.com/p/stories-of-being) - and I think if you read my reflections you will see that I have brought that identity HERE as well.
My father was a preacher and a lifelong truth-seeker, and it seemed like he could only form solid connections with people that shared his evolving philosophy - a number that trended from hundreds eventually toward zero as he moved from his Catholic roots toward more esoteric approaches guided by my mother's sensitivities.
I see a similar thing happening here with my waking up from the covid story and the blue team narrative matrix, but not feeling particularly in sync with the red team matrix either. It's why I push back against comments arguing against maintaining relationships with those who believed the "wrong" story. I think there is a need for reckoning and accountability especially at the higher levels, but I want to avoid falling into the trap of identifying people AS their mask-wearing or irrational covid beliefs or political ideas and instead seeing their passions and hobbies and love for their families and gardens and delicious meals and the spark of life inside each.
Love thy neighbor as thyself, Jesus once said. So even as I aspire to find more of a like-minded community I also want to let go of that part of my identity that wants to see my ideas and beliefs validated in order to feel connection to others - which then greatly expands the pool of people with whom I can feel meaningful connection. I think you, Erika, are very good at this in your daily interactions with people - at least as you describe them. It's not a "turning the other cheek" to allow people to hurt me but a refusing to categorize them as not-worthy-of-respect based on some action or belief of theirs.
Much to think about. Thank you for being here!
Mark
Re: Layoffs Just This Month
Date: 2022-11-09 04:55 pm (UTC)The economy that produced actual, useful things and employed actual, useful people died years ago in North America and throughout the West. To be sure, in the US especially, there is still a huge manufacturing sector. However, it is all high-tech and robotic and, as such, does not contribute much to the creation of a middle-class that is vital for a consumer society. The robotic society overwhelmingly benefits the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab and his evil minions and that's about it. Ditto for Facebook, Twitter and all the other, frankly useless "services". I'd add the financial sector to this list.
An economy that produces only discord, financial chicanery and smoke and mirrors is of benefit only to the grifters and thieves and con men that run the West for their own benefit.
Let it die.
Liam in Toronto
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-09 04:56 pm (UTC)There's probably something to that. But at the same time, it's not a death sentence. My own mother is both overweight (not morbidly) and insulin-dependent T2, and over seventy. Had COVID, got over it. Doing fine.
I'd bet that even among that unhealthy subgroup, death rates are not particularly high. Just a lot higher than other groups.
Re: IM Doc again, from today
Date: 2022-11-09 05:02 pm (UTC)Here is what I wrote. I guess I was more pointed in my criticism than IM Doc:
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I am puzzled by Leonardi. I can't quite figure him out. He lists himself as a Kavli Fellow on his twitter bio, but not that he is pursuing MPH degree, as the linked article mentions. I can't find anything in his twitter feed on Kavli. Kavli appears to dabble in concern over 'Science and Society', but the science Kavli support are well outside his area of expertise. I would say he provides half-truths.
He goes on about repeated infection depleting T-cells, but avoids any consideration of what the multiple pharmaceutical interventions recommended per year might be doing, that keep reintroducing the original spike into the body. The press routinely ignores this as well. Given how novel all of this is, I think it is intellectually dishonest not to consider the rampant application of novel pharmaceuticals, which possesses some of same novel proteins as the infection, as potenially causing problems as well.
I often think of this piece from November, 2020, that while a Moderna puff piece, gave a reason why Moderna moved into vaccines:
"...In animal studies, the ideal dose of their leading mRNA therapy was triggering dangerous immune reactions — the kind for which Karikó had improvised a major workaround under some conditions — but a lower dose had proved too weak to show any benefits.
Moderna had to pivot. If repeated doses of mRNA were too toxic to test in human beings, the company would have to rely on something that takes only one or two injections to show an effect. Gradually, biotech’s self-proclaimed disruptor became a vaccines company, putting its experimental drugs on the back burner and talking up the potential of a field long considered a loss-leader by the drug industry."
https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/
Re: WORDLE
Date: 2022-11-09 05:05 pm (UTC)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0fRl6UyVqg
Re: Local Recorders
Date: 2022-11-09 05:06 pm (UTC)Transcriber here.
This sounds like lovely, and truly important work. I will be thinking of something for you.
But towards a bigger picture! It has often occurred to me that there needs to be an oral history of 2020-present times, however, unless someone such as yourself takes it on, it may be many years until a balanced collection can come out. Who will be the Studs Terkel / George Plimpton / Jean Stein of the non-KA-drinking version of covid times, I wonder.... Why not you?
It's not going to be me because I have other irons in the literary bonfire (hmmm that's a funny metaphor, isn't it).
Towards a historical record of covid times, my own little self-assigned row to hoe is, with legal fair use in mind, transcribing selected shadow-banned video and audio from the Internet.
My very best wishes to you.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-09 05:06 pm (UTC)A bit of serendipity: found a way relieve the headaches, as pain killers had no effect. Sitting on the couch with my pillow in place, I'd lay over to on my left side keeping my feet and legs in front of me as if sitting upright. Kind of like a sitting side bend. Generally blessed sleep would ensue for at least and hour or three. Bending to the right helped but was less effective. My thoughts and empathy are with her.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 05:22 pm (UTC)There never was a travel ban for U.S citizens to my understanding, only foreigners and that rule is still in effect, though they expanded the exceptions list.
Papers weren't asked this time though, it was usually asked at the check in desk and since I did that online nobody asked me. I did have to sign some paper that made me promise I would quarantine if I got infected or something.
Re: International Travel Ban
Date: 2022-11-09 05:31 pm (UTC)Thanks
angry and scared about election results
Date: 2022-11-09 05:52 pm (UTC)I have a two year-old. As of now, Minnesota has a philosophical exemption for all vaccines. Democrats introduced a bill last session to remove that (a a al California and New York). I fear Minnesota will follow the Big Pharma dictates and remove this exemption. My partner and I want to be careful and selective about how and if we vaccinate.
I fear for my child's health and for my autonomy/medical freedom as a parent. I would strongly prefer not to move or homeschool (for reasons I won't go into here), but may have to consider those things.
I am independent politically, but was hoping Dems would get a smackdown due to their Covid and other overreaches but it doesn't seem like that happened.
I am wondering if there's anything I can do to maintain this medical freedom/philosophical exemption in my state.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-09 06:00 pm (UTC)IVAN VILIBOR SINĆIĆ
Date: 2022-11-09 06:03 pm (UTC)IVAN VILIBOR SINĆIĆ
Member of European Parliament (Croatia)
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/197935/IVAN%20VILIBOR_SINCIC/home
Complete press conference December 8, 2021
5 MEPS RESPOND TO URSULA VON DER LEYEN'S TOTALITARIAN MANDATORY VACCINATION
https://rumble.com/vqmvwr-5-meps-respond-to-ursula-von-der-leyens-totalitarian-mandatory-vaccination-.html
TRANSCRIPT - EXCERPT
16:41
IVAN VILIBOR SINĆIĆ: Thank you dear colleagues, thank you for attending this press conference. In the beginning I will reply to the President of the Commission Ursula von der Leyen, who called for a debate on mandatory vaccination. The answer is simple. No, you cannot mandate these medical products. And why you cannot mandate these medical products? Because data and science have shown us that these products are far, far, very far away from what was promised.
I will repeat it over and over again. On 25th of February, here in Brussels, in European Parliament, there was a committee and seven directors, CEOs from major pharmaceutical companies from Moderna and AstraZeneca, to Pfizer and Novavax, were there, and we as MEPs had arrived to ask them questions about their medical products, and they said it had extreme efficiency, 90-95%, all those high percentages. And nine months later, what do we see in the data? What science and statistics shows us? It shows us that the efficiency is far, far less than it was promised. This is the benefit. The efficiency is the benefit. And there are also costs to the benefit. What are the costs? The costs are of course side effects. Every product has its side effects.
What does the science ell us about side effects? That there are more reported side effects, adverse reactions, to these covid vaccines than all the other vaccines combined in several decades.
We have products of questionable quality and this is why you cannot mandate them. You cannot mandate them.
And when it comes to freedom more and more I feel that our constitutional rights and our human rights have been kidnapped. And that we have to pay ransom every six months, one year, we have to pay ransom to get our freedoms back. This is simply unacceptable. Our rights are unalienable, that means that no kidnapper can take them from us. It's as simple as that. And we accept nothing else.
19:08
I will make short report on Croatia and Slovenia. As you know, as I said on the previous conference, at the beginning of November Croatian government decided that public sector must have digital
green certificates implemented. As soon as this measure was started, started to get implemented, huge resistance was offered on all levels and it still is there and it continues to rise.
So now, it will be tomorrow in Croatian Parliament there will be a debate on a law that will make fines for all those who do not implement the digi-c in their institution, in their organization. So the Croatian government goes further with this repression, with this unconstitutional situation. And of course if von der Leyen tells them, implement mandatory vaccination of course they will do it. They have always done whatever Brussels tell them, no matter how illogical it was.
So Ms. von der Leyen said that digi-c's were a huge success, while this huge success was declared unconstitutional by the Constitutional Court of Slovenia just a few days ago.
The Constitutional Court of Slovenia, and I have to emphasize this because as my colleagues said, there's a lot of censorship, and information spread, informations like this spread very slowly, so I will make a special address on this here.
So the Constitutional Court of Slovenia made a decision, made a ruling, that the decision made by the government, which was by the way suspended a few days ago. The decision made by the government of Slovenia that only the vaccinated and people who have recovered can come to their job, to their workplace, that this decision by the government is unconstitutional.
So it's a huge victory for constitutional rights all over Europe. And this is one of the many court rulings on different levels, constitutional [?], supreme courts, etcetera. And we need much more rulings like this.
So this is a clear confirmation that the laws are still in power, human rights are still in power, but you have to fight, you have to submit a lawsuit, and you have to fight on this legal front, on activist front, on scientific front. And this what we are doing, we will continue to do. Thank you.
22:14
[END OF EXCERPT]
Re: Questioning "The Science"
Date: 2022-11-09 06:03 pm (UTC)I would not confuse the scientific method with whatever gets taught at universities, propagated by the media and used by politicians as a sort of blunt instrument. Call it scientism or "The Science" but it's far removed from what's it supposed to be.
Mucky state of the collective astral around here
Date: 2022-11-09 06:08 pm (UTC)Re: MSN for today
Date: 2022-11-09 06:12 pm (UTC)Whispers
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-09 06:18 pm (UTC)I recommend a look at the volume edited by Donald Kraybill, The Amish and the State, which I just read for this very reason. The Amish have won some pertinent concessions from state and fed governments, but while those cases are often cited to support non-participation in certain state or socially required activities on religious grounds (or participation in other activities that challenge state/federal law), somewhere in Kraybill's volume, one author points out that the wording of an opinion of one of the justices from one landmark case (possibly Wisconsin v. Yoder) was very clear in marking the distinguishing factors of Amish religious precedent (it's longevity, namely) as being part of the reason their rights were upheld. His opinion is not law, but it suggests that the Supreme Court decided the way they did in large part because the Amish religion dates back to the 1600s and they have continuously upheld the same principles.
A newly-founded religion will likely not be so easily grandfathered in on Amish coattails without establishing ... not exactly a pedigree or lineage, but a very strongly-anchored faith-based set of beliefs and practices founded on something recognizably historical and not an obvious reaction to gov't overreach.
I see that this is something that's going to need deep and dedicated thought and conversation (akin to a religious version of a Second Continental Congress to hammer out religious, social, cultural, legal details that can stand in a court of law as well as nurture a religious community). A community of practitioners will carry weight that an individual with their own idiosyncratic religion can't.
Re: angry and scared about election results
Date: 2022-11-09 06:19 pm (UTC)I'm not sure if MN has a quorum requirement that would make that effective, but it could work.
I'm a bit surprised by the lack of a red wave. I do think that the red team *could have* had their wave if they had a) universally accepted the outcome of the 2020 election, b) distanced themselves from Trump, and c) not chosen an election year to reverse Roe v. Wade. But...what can I say - both parties tend to shoot themselves in the foot when they are ahead.
I spent the first 23 years of my life in Minnesota and most of my family is there - here's hoping it doesn't join the more extreme blue team insanity.
Re: Mucky state of the collective astral around here
Date: 2022-11-09 07:00 pm (UTC)Gawain