Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66
Nov. 8th, 2022 01:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: IM Doc again, from today
Date: 2022-11-09 05:02 pm (UTC)Here is what I wrote. I guess I was more pointed in my criticism than IM Doc:
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I am puzzled by Leonardi. I can't quite figure him out. He lists himself as a Kavli Fellow on his twitter bio, but not that he is pursuing MPH degree, as the linked article mentions. I can't find anything in his twitter feed on Kavli. Kavli appears to dabble in concern over 'Science and Society', but the science Kavli support are well outside his area of expertise. I would say he provides half-truths.
He goes on about repeated infection depleting T-cells, but avoids any consideration of what the multiple pharmaceutical interventions recommended per year might be doing, that keep reintroducing the original spike into the body. The press routinely ignores this as well. Given how novel all of this is, I think it is intellectually dishonest not to consider the rampant application of novel pharmaceuticals, which possesses some of same novel proteins as the infection, as potenially causing problems as well.
I often think of this piece from November, 2020, that while a Moderna puff piece, gave a reason why Moderna moved into vaccines:
"...In animal studies, the ideal dose of their leading mRNA therapy was triggering dangerous immune reactions — the kind for which Karikó had improvised a major workaround under some conditions — but a lower dose had proved too weak to show any benefits.
Moderna had to pivot. If repeated doses of mRNA were too toxic to test in human beings, the company would have to rely on something that takes only one or two injections to show an effect. Gradually, biotech’s self-proclaimed disruptor became a vaccines company, putting its experimental drugs on the back burner and talking up the potential of a field long considered a loss-leader by the drug industry."
https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/
Re: IM Doc again, from today
Date: 2022-11-09 11:33 pm (UTC)I’m guessing your comment was ok’d by whoever was moderating at the time, then deleted by Yves when she read it. Yves injected the Kool-Aid, and only tolerates vax criticisms from her pet regulars, including IM Doc. She also thinks masks work and there was no lab leak, so discussions of those topics are similarly censored. Worse, she allows her pets to make ad hominem attacks on critics, against the longstanding site rules.
After 15 years of reading Naked Capitalism almost every morning, I quit in disgust about 8 months ago. Now I only stop in to read the IM Doc posts, and while I’m at it see what Amfortas, Wukchumni, and Arizona Slim have to say (Howdy, Slim!).
From what I can tell, Yves and some of my seemingly intelligent friends who lost their boosted minds since March 2020 made poor choices in their “trusted experts”. It’s fashionable to think that the world is too complex to understand outside ones own area of expertise, so one should defer to what the experts in other subjects say. Having seen how often experts are wrong, I try to do a deep dive into a subject and gather information from a variety of sources so that I have enough understanding to evaluate the evidence on my own. And I reevaluate my decisions as new information comes to light. I suppose not everyone has the time or brainpower to bone up on a subject like immunology, but to me it seemed important. And I’m glad I did!
Re: IM Doc again, from today
Date: 2022-11-12 09:26 pm (UTC)IM Doc comments are worth reading, I agree.
Re: IM Doc again, from today
Date: 2022-11-10 05:12 pm (UTC)Yves, Lambert and the rest are, as has been said, vaxxed and boostered. This after years of "don't trust the government, don't trust big pharma, don't trust big finance." Now they can't admit even to themselves that they did the exact opposite of their mantra.
For such allegedly hard-headed people, they have blind spots the same as anyone else. It's still infuriating to me that they will say absolutely nothing about the shots. Nothing!