Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 49

[ecosophia]

The pandemic has been scrubbed from the front pages at this point and replaced by a different hysteria du jour, but the semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, the rising toll of side effects from those drugs, and the whole cascading mess surrounding these things have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as countries with high vaccination rates stagger on with one Covid surge after another, while countries with low vaccination rates have next to no casese of Covid, the floor is open for discussion.  

Comments

Seven times Seven

[(Anonymous)]

How is it that this madness is still going on?

I really thought that some breaking point would be reached earlier this year. My hometown is the top of the (crap) heap for this insanity. It lives on but goes unspoken. Will it eventually break me, break my family. The longer it goes on, the deeper the anger is that it builds... Couldn't help but notice tempers flaring last week, mostly by our hosts admonishments. I feel it and didn't want to add to the fire but I'm almost riotous. I want to throw the trash can through the glass window but what window? 2nd Avenue and 42nd street come to mind but it's not worth it. I want to see the house of cards fall of it's own weight but it's getting to staggering heights, held firmly in place by lies and those that believe them. I keep thinking about the fateful day I have to step into the pediatricians office again and if the subject comes up, my one overriding response is... 'Do you know what an emergency is?' because covid for kids isn't it. There is no reason. What can I do if they give me the 'your crazy' face? The only thing that makes sense, give it back.

Not sure what others are sensing in the astral plane but dreams have been dark... It's been months since my wife took her second dose. I hate both those days at the hospital more than any other days in my life. All seems well but I constantly find myself thinking the last line of Blade Runner... "I didn't know how long we had together. Who does?" Lot's of Phillip K. Dick floating around in this new reality. One of the best finds of last week and was <a href="https://simonsheridan.me/ideas/the-eternal-feminine-the-devouring-mother-and-the-fourth-face-of-god-part-1/?unapproved=2912&moderation-hash=0a4a2c397045b46adf36f3e8e7e2a605#comment-291>this, thank you Erika</a> and I think it has a lot to say about why this is still going and picking up steam.

Re: Seven times Seven

[(Anonymous)]

You are describing how I feel, to a T.

It's almost like a war at this point, dragging on in pitiless attrition because neither side will surrender an inch. Truth doesn't matter, only winning.

This is how it seems, at any rate, after being on Twitter a lot more than usual. I keep thinking I've come across a statistic, argument, or credentialed article regarding vaccine ineffectiveness and vaccine harms that can't be shot down and undermined by the other side, but of course it never happens.

I've come to the point of wanting to find a middle ground, a place of potential truce, where people don't have to waste energy convincing each other of the harms or benefits of the vaccine, but where they can nonetheless agree that the mandates were an egregious wrong across the board, and maybe be willing to discuss the lockdown harms also. I feel that if a flag could be planted in that territory, more people from "the other side" than we might expect would be willing to approach.

(Can't remember my cosmic handle - JH, long term reader/poster)

Thank you

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you, JMG and forumistas.

We are nearing the 1 year anniversary, which is, literally, amazing, on so many levels.

Cetiosaurus

Vaxx Injuries / Adverse Events

[(Anonymous)]

Just posted - An update

Jefflin Breuer
First Dose of Moderna in 01/2021
Second Dose of Moderna in 02/2021
Third Dose of Moderna in 11/2021
Washington State
50 yrs old

Update on 07/12/22:
I’m currently bedridden and on some very serious medications for inflammatory myositis caused by my immune system response to the vaccine.

READ THE COMPLETE Q & A

https://www.realnotrare.com/post/jefflin-breuer

Re: Vaxx Injuries / Adverse Events

[(Anonymous)]

Of note: realnotrare.com included the following at the bottom of Jefflin Breuer's post:


Related Scientific Publications/Case Reports:


Myositis in a 56yoF following mRNA vaccination:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33647971/


COVID-19 vaccine induced cellulitis and myositis:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857596/


1250+ Peer-Reviewed Publications:

https://react19.org/1250-covid-vaccine-reports/

Some (sad) LOLs

[(Anonymous)]

A super sad children's story that, in a sad way, really made me LoL (JMG, this is within your guidelines)

Dirty Elmo
Part 1 Not Happy with Elmo Right Now
by Dr Flurmgooglybean
https://drflurmgooglybean.substack.com/p/dirty-elmo-part-1

Dirty Elmo
Part 2 Elmo Serves His Purpose
by Dr Flurmgooglybean
https://drflurmgooglybean.substack.com/p/dirty-elmo-part-2


*** ***
PS Speaking of humor, oh, el gato, that master of meme-fu!
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/pfizer-gets-desperate

Also those peculiar little homemade Ken & Barbie videos:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/188888.html?thread=31944920#cmt31944920

And one of the commenters' blues song lyrics:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/188888.html?thread=31792600#cmt31792600

and a ukele art-song:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/188888.html?thread=31971800#cmt31971800

MORE! MORE PLEASE!

Re: Some (sad) LOLs

[(Anonymous)]

Here's some more:

https://babylonbee.com/news/elmo-dies-of-myocarditis-after-receiving-covid-vaccine

[(Anonymous)]

Glad to see people together on a nice day there in the weekly photo!

THANK YOU

[(Anonymous)]

This is a good opportunity for a quick notification: The next Tracks In Space Hike will be on August 7th, the first Sunday of the month. I'll post another reminder as this month wraps up.

Murmuration

p.s. When I say "tracks in space" in my mind, for some reason, it sounds an awful lot like "Pigs...in...Space!"

Feeling Special

[(Anonymous)]

Currently having a cold in the middle of summer that has lasted over a week I must assume that I have the cold which must not be named for the second time (First time was likely Omnicron earlier this year as symptoms matched). Being unfoxed and historically rarely getting sick I expected it to be harder to get the second time. Either way this is just a datapoint for you all but it brought up a question. Now that we have more data, what if anything do you really think is 'Novel' about this virus?

The main difference in my personal experience is the length of time I have been sick. The symptoms themselves for me have been mild but oddly varied with the biggest impact being the loss of taste and smell after I got over it the first time that lasted many months. This newest one has me coughing a lot at night with some phlegm from sinus drainage but feeling better after clearing it out in the morning only to repeat the next night. Nothing like the first time.

So leaving out our response and all the fun ways this may have impacted the virus once it was in the wild, was there anything truly novel about the original? If someone designed it to have 'gain of function' what was it about the virus that was improved? Is it a Captain America style virus with some special shield that makes it harder for our immune systems to flush it out, some kind of chimera with mixed parts from different virus, just a hard core lab trained hulk to spread easily?

Looking briefly online it seems maybe 'novel' just meant new but that is not how it was used in the propaganda which meant this one is different.

Re: Feeling Special

[dendroica]

It is actually rather rare for an entirely new virus to enter the human population and become endemic as this one has. In recent memory we have HIV and quite likely coronavirus OC43 causing the "Russian Flu" pandemics of the 1890s.

With a new virus there is more uncertainty as to the scope of infection of different tissues, long-term harms, impact on the immune system, ability to evolve into more dangerous forms, etc. than there is with e.g. a new strain of pandemic influenza.

The "function" that was "gained" was primarily the ability to readily infect and transmit between human beings. This can be accomplished relatively passively in a lab through "serial passage" in humanized mice - intentionally infecting mice that have human ACE2 receptors and other genes and allowing the virus to select for greater fitness until it gets over an evolutionary "hump" that it may never have been able to cross on its own.

As for whether any additional attributes may have been engineered into the virus with implications for virulence, it seems that a furin cleavage site (a protein sequence recognized by a human enzyme) may have been intentionally added with the goal of increasing infectiousness in human cells. There are other possibilities but from my perspective the more specific the claim the lower the probability.


It does seem that the latest strains are capable of reinfecting people that have been infected within the last six months, whether vaxxed or unvaxxed. That is concerning to me. Time will tell whether this is just a case of "normal" immune escape on a faster-than-usual timescale or whether the virus is beginning to evolve a more general evasion of immune response a la HIV which would have serious implications in terms of potential chronic/long-term infection and associated immune suppression, direct infection harms (e.g. spike protein effects), and potential induction of autoimmunity.

Screams "vax casualty"

[(Anonymous)]

This is a sad story, a microcosm of the macrocosm. Not once does the vaccine come up, but it screams "vax casualty".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/he-worked-from-home-and-died-suddenly-five-days-passed-before-his-body-was-found/ar-AAZumbI

Murmuration

Re: Screams "vax casualty"

[(Anonymous)]

The part about the new unworn wardrobe is the strongest thing present to suggest it was fox related. Though LA and working for public health are strong indicators too.

The family being upset at his employers was pretty rough. As an always remote worker his boss wouldn't likely know anything about his family and living situation. However, his boss would know that pushing a "no call, no show" up the line would likely result in termination of employment, but wouldn't guarantee a wellness check or a call to his emergency contact.

The true believers need someone/something other than the fox to blame. It's unfortunate that the employer who tried repeatedly to get a hold of him was the variable they fixated on.

[(Anonymous)]

an anonymous comment in the previous open post about no whistleblowers at Pfizer and suggestions that there may have been whistleblowers and we never knew about them.

I replied and do not know if my reply was posted but now I can't find the original thread.

My comment was a joke but a biting joke. I said, 'Caller we have Jack Ruby on the line.'

I realized later it might have sounded like I was referring to the anonymous commenter as Jack Ruby. My apologies for being clumsy.

My point was that Jack Ruby was a whistleblower and was roundly ignored. What he said was heard, even printed,
and either lost in the swirl of Beatlemania (for instance) or cognitive dissonance.

Now there was a whistleblower whose revelation 'You are going to have a different form of government' just whistled past in the dark.

[p_coyle]

there was a whistleblower. her lawsuit against pfizer is what got the fraud ball rolling. in trying to get the case dismissed, pfizer argued that since the government knew about the fraud and continued to do business with them, the part of the contract regarding fraud no longer applies. at least that was my understanding, i'm no lawyer.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-07-11-pfizer-court-dismiss-whistleblower-lawsuit-government-fraud.html

.Epub, .Html, .Txt Files That Contain The Archive Of The Whole Series On The Open Post

[(Anonymous)]

The open thread archives bellow (.epub and html, and for Vol. 2 text too)

Volume 1 (everything before 1st March 2022)
Volume 1 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/8dBxzC4B#AkuddhK1eMAHK8xtCquBd7Es_19uU0UVAuO26PJ61ow

Volume 1 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/8JYV3QBT#ydwISn-_JZGsa3KCfNlMPZSmCKWEFgTYMJJnsvN0D9c

Volume 2 (everything after 1st of March)

Volume 2 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/tJZzRbba#rxkN0jicQ7hXwOunxq5j45qifwI5sJPS3m_c6HquA9g

Volume 2 - .txt archive
https://mega.nz/file/tJZzRbba#rxkN0jicQ7hXwOunxq5j45qifwI5sJPS3m_c6HquA9g

Volume 2 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/VN5XnDLL#C8csNeMAJZnOfJvJrFyY4fQJgZ7vnUVElqNQViHHz8I

Re: .Epub, .Html, .Txt Files That Contain The Archive Of The Whole Series On The Open Post

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for doing this.

The crazy continues

[revert2mean]

Well life as we've never known it before continues in my little office building in Canberra. Five times as many cases of Covid as last year, flu, rsv, you name it. People constantly sick, really sick and bed-ridden. Work constantly cancelled because of sickness. Hospitals "overwhelmed" but a quarter of staff are off sick. People go on holiday but their husband is too sick and it gets cancelled, or the kids get sick and they spend the whole time nursing them. Of course, they're all foxinated. Every. Single. One. Even the kids (shocking).

The local government (and the new national government) declined to re-mandate masks. Work continue to pretend it's "a rule" but by what authority? A sizeable minority of people just don't wear them. As well as leading the mask insurrection, I made some comments about, "but I thought when you got vaccinated you were never supposed to get that thing, not get it five or six times". Accused of being "undiplomatic". In my humble, anecdotal opinion, this is immune imprinting. Waiting for the first hospitalisation, the first death in my immediate work group. Of course the answer, officially, is always more boosters, more masks. Will these people ever engage their brains? I do feel sorry for people suffering like this for doing what they believed was "the right thing", but look how we were vilified for thinking for ourselves!

Needless to say we three unvaxxed are milling around, failing to catch anything. I am truly very worried for all these thoughtless people.

Re: The crazy continues

[(Anonymous)]

"Will these people ever engage their brains?"

My theory, based on evolutionary biology, is that we misunderstand what our brains are for. Brains are a great way to speed up the development of instincts - instead of many generations, you can have people being ideologically brainwashed in just few years. That explains how easy it is to get mass hysterias for example.

Just like any genotypical change, there is a Bell curve. On one end you have people that have difficulty learning. On the other you have people that can learn all too well. In the middle, the Goldilock zone: follow your leaders and ape your peers and a new instinctual drive will be created (be it the ability to work together like ants or worshipping the rich or what have you).

So, in that light we are just a small minority that evolution keeps as plan B, in case all those lemmings go over the cliff. On the other hand, if they hit on the right instinct (like how to live in an ecologically balanced way for millenia) we will be ruthlessly exterminated.

Don't you feel better now?

[(Anonymous)]

So last post had both a post with 5 digits get and a comment with 4 digits get both for the number 8

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/188888.html?thread=31868888#cmt31868888

glad to hear you've turned the corner. and make sure the little guy gets enough gruel! :-)

Which I think is a symbol of strength to redemption, I think is hope for me and many others, either hurt by the waxxine or by the outcasting for not taking the waxxine like myself.

[(Anonymous)]

So there are only 36 comment out of almost 40000 on the open thread with 4 get digits and only two with the number 8, is interesting that this one is on a post with 5 consecutive 8, the other one being:

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/147464.html?thread=18938888#cmt18938888
back in September

complete list here
https://pastebin.com/xfjWmCZc

Wandervogel

[(Anonymous)]

Off topic, but about the picture.

Are they out on a wandervogel JMG?

I just read about that after seeing you mention it in the magic monday yesterday.

Incidentally, I just read Hesse's Journey to the East. For some reason I'd never gotten around to that one before. It strikes me that the members of the League could have been on their own Wandervogel. Glad I finally read it as it seems like a kind of prologue to Magister Ludi in many ways.

I'm rather taken with the idea of Wandervogel... my family participated in a U.S. side Volksmarch, and my aunt was in a club for it. All of these walking groups and clubs seem worthy of reviving in some form.

As for the present topic, it does seem like the people who catch Covid the most are those who have gotten vaxxed the most.

JPM

Re: Wandervogel

[ecosophia]

The term Wandervogel (German for "wandering bird") didn't just refer to hikes, it was an entire social movement. I'm not sure how many people are aware that literally nothing the hippies of the 1960s did was original -- from drugs to communes to be-ins to bad folk guitar playing (and worse poetry), it was all copied from the Wandervogel movement in the German-speaking parts of central Europe starting around 1900. Try this photo for the flavor:



The League of Journeyers to the East is in fact a great image of the Wandervogel movement, both in its triumphs and in the way that (like most such movements) it unraveled slowly and awkwardly. I'd like to see something of the sort get moving again, even knowing that it would come apart the same way in due time. There's a point to the exercise, as Hesse pointed out in his novel.

Charles Eisenstein - Pandemania

[dendroica]

I’m getting a lot of intense critical feedback on my last post, from every direction. I am simultaneously—

(1) Too soft on the obvious medical fascism and totalitarian control agenda, the psychopaths in power, and their foot soldiers and stooges among the compliant public. And

(2) Belittling and excluding those who have chosen the vaccine, taking sides and violating the principle of compassion and inclusivity.

I will continue to hold center. Center does not mean to sit on the fence between the two sides. That fence disappeared a long time ago. Holding center means to describe unflinchingly the abuse, lying, gaslighting, manipulation, creeping technological fascism, harm to public health, and, well, crimes against humanity that are underway today. AND, to steadfastly refuse to divert anger onto hate. To refuse to succumb to the patterning of dehumanization and othering that has made us vulnerable to predatory manipulation in the first place.

I have said it before and I will say it again: anger is a sacred force. It responds to the violation of a boundary. Channeling the anger onto hatred risks neutralizing it, because usually the target of the hatred isn’t the deepest cause of the violation. Sometime it is. Sometimes you win victory over the most proximate and obvious perpetrator, and the problem is solved. That is not the case today. People like Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, and Anthony Fauci are the opportunistic beneficiaries, the figureheads, even the avatars of an entire world-system and ideology. We can remove them—should remove them—from power, but that alone will solve nothing. Similarly, we can rail against the petty bureaucrats and compliant members of the public, but if we do not seriously ask why they were compliant—a question that hate and blame clouds over—again we will leave the system/ideology in place that will generate more of the same, forever, as we go on hating each other.

https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/p/pandemania-part-3

Re: Charles Eisenstein - Pandemania

[(Anonymous)]

That is very thoughtful and I'm gong to read the sub stack article hoping he answers this.

Biophobia, Ahriman, Djinn and AI, oh my!

[(Anonymous)]

There's been an ongoing tangential undercurrent in these posts that pertains to AI, djinn, Ahriman, biophobia and the like. While these posts seem unrelated to covid directly, to my mind they wrestle with the philosophy that underpins the genesis of covid, and the reactions and outcomes of it. Whatever the origin of our current situation, these side discussions point to the goals of Davos and the WEF. In this vein, a connection popped into my mind, which has surely been discussed before. But it's new to me, and I thought who better to dig into it with, than the crew here.

Some (most?) events in history can be traced back to other, previous, inciting events. Of course, history is a tangled web, and nothing is the sole outcome of a single preceding event. But some things just about feel like it. They are hard to see at the time, but in retrospect, these events feel like billiard balls bouncing one into the other, in a highly Newtonian way. Quantum mechanics need not apply. For example, the Treaty of Westphalia more or less locked in the existence of a political character like Hitler. Westphalia said if it wasn't Hitler, it would be someone else. That took a few hundred years to play out, but the outcome was almost baked into the cake.

What has occurred to me is that the second Nietzsche uttered the phrase "god is dead", Klaus Schwab, and whatever forces he is a front for, were baked into the cake. Again, it's taken a long stretch of time to come to fruition, but this feels like billiard ball one bouncing directly into billiard ball two.

Humans seem to be biologically wired to need a higher power, and the death of god created an enormous vacuum that HAD to be filled. And those who would fill that vacuum aren't interested in looking around to see if something already exists which would fill that hole. Or if they maybe got the underlying precept wrong in the first place. No, they would become as gods themselves. The people of science are trying to create AI, which they will merge with, to become god. From their point of view, god doesn't exist, but they are compelled to "create" something to fill that hole. They are so betrayed by the 'death' of god that they intend to will one into existence, almost as a giant middle finger to the god they don't believe exists. A deep and guttural scream of rage against an absent parent.

What does it mean though, that the people who would be god, are biophobic? Have a desire to extinguish pain and loss and death from existence, instead of sit an grieve together, and accept limits? Have no time for embodied experience, and would be content to be a brain in a vat? Are intellectual to the extreme, cutting off emotional growth? Care not about the meek, and would just as soon apply eugenics on a vast scale as open a single soup kitchen? Would be as The Whale and try to gather ALL of the stuff to themselves, and attempt to squeeze it through the eye of a needle, instead of share one penny. Would zoom off into the infinite reaches of space to flee themselves instead of sitting under a tree, or becoming a tree, rooted to the ground, immobile, and explore the depths of inner experience? Is this Angry Old Testament God Redux?

Anyway, I'm wresting with Nietzsche = Schwab (et al), and I know this crew will have some thoughts on that :)

Murmuration

Re: Biophobia, Ahriman, Djinn and AI, oh my!

[methylethyl]

Why are the new would-be gods biophobes? That is the question of the moment, isn't it.

They're afraid of death, and biology=mortality?

The reason they want to be in charge is because they are so alienated from everyone? i.e. "I am miserable and disconnected from the rest of humanity... this could all be better if everyone would just do what I want them to do..." who hasn't had that thought? Luckily, the vast majority of us will never have remotely enough power to force the issue.

Your comments bring to mind this week's baffling resolution by the Episcopal church, not only giving its full-throated support to abortion, but head-scratchingly, also apologizing for ever supporting crisis pregnancy centers. Like "we support abortion SO MUCH that we're sorry we ever tried offering support services to women who didn't want to abort. We'll never do that again." I'm gobsmacked... where is that even coming from? The wording in the resolution is tortured to avoid mentioning women, and includes this:

"Resolved, the House of Bishops concurring,

That the 80th General Convention recognizes that pregnancy and childbirth are dangerous undertakings that risk permanent disability and death for those who bear children; and be it further..."

So.... odd. I can't quite wrap my head around it. But... biophobia. We can't say "woman". Childbirth is so terrifying, why would anyone go through with it(Did we just step back in time)? We'd be awful people if we offered "those who bear children" any options other than abortion even if they want other options-- they shouldn't risk it! It's hard to see a church behind these statements at all, they are so wrapped up in the weird current of our time.

What is that current? Where does it come from? Why are so many of the rich and powerful so taken by it? One keeps coming back to That Hideous Strength-- Lewis saw it so well: the sinister artificial trees in the NICE garden (did you see that article about engineering plants with non-biodegrading polymer roots to sequester carbon?), the cruelty to laborers and animals, and abhorrence of everything beautiful, of every non-monetizable human inclination. Who needs The Head, when we have AI?

Growing list of injuries among my family and friends

[(Anonymous)]

All the following people are injected with the mrna product:

- friend's dad had a stroke; left him blind in one eye.
- same friend's kid has seen his friends get sidelined from sports because of myocarditis; the kid wisely declined the shot after that
- my stepdaughter's grandma had a stroke of some kind that affected her speech
- a close friend of ours suddenly discovered a large growth in her lung; a suspected tumor and I fear the diagnosis will be advanced cancer that came out of nowhere, and she would be considered a very low risk individual for lung cancer.
- an aunt on my wife's side is in the hospital today after suffering "stroke like" symptoms
- a friend of mine nearly died from a cerebral-spinal fluid leak; first cause the doctors looked for: *clotting*
- a friend knows at least one person who died shortly after receiving a second shot

Serious health issues among those I know who are unvaxxed:
- none to report

The list will grow longer as time goes on. I have declined the mrna product. I feel anger, despair and fear as I bear witness to this growing tragedy, and had to get this off of my chest.

Re: Growing list of injuries among my family and friends

[(Anonymous)]

The list you present is depressing but can I point out a silver lining?

"the kid wisely declined the shot after that"

How many adults had the common sense to do that? To paraphrase Forrest Gump: I don't know if life is just a feather floating randomly in the air or a test for something greater, but it's heartening that some people do try to learn.

[(Anonymous)]

The denial is getting bizarre, I was just forwarded me an e-mail from a court reporters group in Texas, where they were raising funds for a fellow court reporter whom the person who forwarded it knows has had the jab. The court reporter was having trouble breathing lately and pain in her calf, went to the doctor and they found two blood clots in her lungs and some in her legs. The doctor told her it was e-clots caused from using a computer too much. This is the warning they then proceeded to give to the court reporters: "She also wanted to share to all court reporters to be aware and careful with all the recent Zoom depos. Her doctor said with increased use of home computers have come an upswing in blood clots; they call them “e-clots.” Please be sure to stand and move around during breaks; don’t stay seated for long periods of time."

Seems to me people were sitting and staring at computers way too much for their health (only in an office instead of at home) long before the jab rollout and I don't recall e-clots then. It's a crazy world.

Monochrome Impudent Turtle

Video games kill

[(Anonymous)]

As a long time gamer I can attest to the dangers of sitting in a fixed position for a long period of time and that it is not a new phenomenon.

https://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/playing-video-games-deadly-article-1.1546209

It is important to note that unlike internet browsing or work from home situations many video games require constant focus and continuous inputs and even with that motivation to maintain body positioning for hours on end death from clotting is extremely rare.

EU population goes down again...

[(Anonymous)]

"According to Eurostat, the population of the 27 countries that make up the bloc fell by close to 172,000 from the previous year and over 656,000 from January 2020."


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hit-by-covid-19-eu-population-shrinks-second-year-running-eurostat-2022-07-11/

Of course, they blame COVID for this population shrinking.

-A Spaniard.

Re: EU population goes down again...

[(Anonymous)]

Do you know how many immigrants (legal or otherwise) have gotten in during that same period?

Also, since EU population is almost 450 million, we need to wait longer before we jump to conclusion.

4th shot

[(Anonymous)]

https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/66922

Re: 4th shot

[(Anonymous)]

Poor sheep. How difficult is it to get spike proteins out of wool?

Things that happens in the U.S.M.C.

[(Anonymous)]

Related with jabbed/unjabbed status...

A Marine kicked out for refusing the jab.

https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2022/07/geez-tell-me-united-states-marine-corps.html

-A Spaniard.

Bits & Pieces

[(Anonymous)]

First off, thank you JMG and forumistas. Sanity in a a storm.

Information from Israel: the vaccines significantly decrease sperm count & mobility. After 6 months there is notable improvement, but not a return to pre-vaccination numbers.

Meanwhile Canada's health minister has declared that boosters are needed every nine months to qualify as up to date.

I will leave you to draw your own conclusion as to the likely consequences. Of note, the vaccines affinity to affect the gonads, ovaries & testes was already established. Unlike sperm, there is no easy way to determine the vaccines affect - if any, on the ova. And unlike sperm, all ova are produced at the same time, only maturing throughout adulthood.

The work on an international digitized 'vaccine' passport continues in the background.

Also out of Israel, a recent study touting the effectiveness of the 2nd booster, or 4th shot. Of interest was the control group: the cohort was those who had their 1st booster or 3rd shot at least 4 months prior. From multiple sources, including Israel, the control group would be showing negative efficacy, being 2x - 3x more susceptible to Covid infection than the unvacvinated. Israel is home to a significant population that has not, and will not take the Covid vaccine for religious reasons. So the researchers could easily have compared the 4th shot versus being unvaccinated, but choose otherwise.

For those foolish enough to find scientific research interesting, fraud has been a problem for decades. Falsified data is the easiest to uncover. Far more difficult is the failure to report negative results, or to collect data that falsifies a desired result. The above study is hard to see as something other than deliberate fraud. Either they deliberately avoided what is the only legitimate baseline, or they collected the data & didn't report. Given the reality of whistleblowers, didn't collect data is more probable.

And Omicron aka moronic. The recognition that omicron is optimized (via evolution) towards the vaccinated. We are about to live through a first...herd level OAS. There is nothing that states that future variants will be as benign. The plague evolved into one of the most lethal pathogens and then evolved into irrelevancy. (Completely off topic, tuberculosis is, and always has been one of, if not the most lethal pathogen to afflict humans. Just in case Trivial Pursuit ever comes back into vogue)

I expect that this fall we will see the return of mandates, mask & vaccine, where its been revoked, along with passports. Lockdowns aren't out of the question. Covid will be the excuse. But there is also the economic meltdown. Currently the grocery shelves are stocked from last years harvest. Starting this fall we will see the consequences of the price of diesel (and nitrogen fertilizer).

The pandemic response has always been about control. No government shuts down to give 80 year olds another 2 months to live.

JMG, I took part of your advice, collapse now & beat the rush a few years back. (The part I ignored was to collapse where I was - no way.) While collapsing is still a work in progress, we have shelter & fuel. Each year we provide more of own food. Only water remains to be addressed. Thank you. A toast to your & yours good health & good fortune.

Re: Bits & Pieces

[(Anonymous)]

It wasn't just 80 year olds dying in the first Wuhan wave. Right now, with far, far more people getting infected per day yet only 300-some dying, we forget that at one point a couple thousand were dying per day, including more than a few health care workers and other essential workers who were infected on the job. There were no known treatments, no vaccines whether worthy or worthless, not enough PPE for the hospital workers treating the sick to change masks and gloves regularly, and they didn't even know exactly how it could spread. People were legitimately terrified. It's easy in July 2022, when "let 'er rip" now appears to be the best practice, to say that's what should have been done in May 2020 as well. But would our health care system in many places have collapsed, as staff collapsed under the load, got sick, or quit to protect themselves? Would the food delivery system have collapsed as workers became ill en masse? I see no reason for confidence that all would have been fine.

Wunderwaffen

[(Anonymous)]

I have been listening to Andrei Martyanov talking about the concept of the "Wunderwaffen" (https://www.youtube.com/user/smoothieX12) and how it is applied to the Ukraine conflict.

He basically states it is a myth (the 'game changer') and that it is a failure of the western elites to think about war systematically. In short, every weapon has to be incorporated into the wider military system for it to have any effect on the overall outcome of the war.

This does sound familiar when one considers the application of vaccines as a type of "Wunderwaffen" and they have been deployed without consideration for the overall effect they would have on the exceedingly complex public health system. They thought they could just push their Wunderwaffen into battle and the war would be won.

Systems thinking is another concept our host has also discussed here: http://archdruidmirror.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-cussedness-of-whole-systems.html

From which two pertinent quotes can be extracted:

"The law of equilibrium, as we might as well call it, states that any attempt to change the state of a whole system will set in motion coutervailing processes that tend to restore the system to its original state. Those processes will not necessarily succeed; they may fail, and they may also trigger changes of their own that push the system in unpredictable directions; still, such processes always emerge, and if you ignore them, it’s a fairly safe bet that they’re going to blindside you."

And, importantly:

"Decide that you can just go ahead and annihilate pathogenic microbes en masse with antibiotics, for example, and the countervailing processes of the planet’s microbial ecology are going to shift into high gear, churning out genes for antibiotic resistance that spread from one bacterial species to another and render antibiotics less effective with every year that passes."

Re: Wunderwaffen

[(Anonymous)]

A. Martyanov is in my opinion, another pro-Russian propagandist, so you should take carefully his words in account. However, the "Wunderwaffen" idea is valuable, when you've seen in the Ukraine war...

-A Spaniard.

Anything beyond speculation

[(Anonymous)]

Hi JMG

Is there any data or science indicating weakened or compromised immune systems as a result of being vaccinated and boosted? Do you have any additional insights/opinions on what is happening in heavily vaccinated countries?

Clearly with this latest surge there is no protection afforded by being boosted anymore if ever. Still leads to many questions of whether mrna vaccines really worked to begin with. Is the technology relatively young?
Ten or Twenty years old? Had it really been adequately tested? Do you believe leadership and scientists had good intentions?

Thanks

Re: Anything beyond speculation

[dendroica]

Not JMG but:

"Is there any data or science indicating weakened or compromised immune systems as a result of being vaccinated and boosted?"

Anecdotally and suggestively (e.g. changes in immune system reactivity after injection: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.03.21256520v1) yes, but I don't believe I have seen gold standard proof of this yet, i.e. documentation of a higher frequency of infections/more death from infectious disease in vaccinated and boosted populations. I would not be at all surprised to learn this is the case however.


"Do you have any additional insights/opinions on what is happening in heavily vaccinated countries?"

Vaccine-antibody-directed viral evolution and negative vaccine efficacy due to some combination of antibody-dependent enhancement, original antigenic sin, spike protein tolerance, and/or innate immune suppression leading to persistently high levels of infection and reinfection.


"Is the technology relatively young?
Ten or Twenty years old?"

This is its first deployment in humans as a vaccine, though it has been in development for a few decades. Attempts at mRNA therapeutics have mostly failed due to increasing adverse reactions upon successive injections. The idea of using it as a vaccine was that ongoing repeated injections would not be necessary...


"Had it really been adequately tested?"

Not by a long shot, as in they did about 10% of the necessary tests for 10% of the necessary time, and they even did that much badly, and then they vaccinated the control group so there is no ongoing data collection with the rigor of a clinical trial.


"Do you believe leadership and scientists had good intentions?"

Yes and no. I believe most scientists and government leaders themselves believed they were doing good, and that they were blinded by a religious faith in the pervasive idea that anything called a vaccine is by definition safe and effective. I also believe that at the higher levels there is/was a lot of financial greed/corruption and an unhealthy acceptance of coercive control of the population "for their own good". I don't personally believe in a depopulation agenda or anything like that.

Anger/Indifference

[(Anonymous)]

Last week there was a thread regarding the anger that many are feeling towards the foxxed and how it isn't constructive etc. I tend to agree, but I'm worried what I feel is worse.

Basically, I cant help but see most of them as statistics, in a cold, distant historical sense of observing the tides and turns of history, the massacres, battles, pandemics and the rest. There isn't any emotional reaction, just an interest in observing how the human mind works, and how societies and civilisations act in these situations.

Is this worse? At least if your'e angry at them you still respect them enough to feel something. All my respect is gone, I feel as though I'm a scribe observing and recording rather than someone living through this.

Perhaps the way to go in this sense is to be like Tom Bombadil in the Lord of the Rings, 'thinking like a mountain' and taking delight in and protecting your little slice of the world but not worrying too much about outside events. If events manage to destroy me, then so be it.

Re: Anger/Indifference

[methylethyl]

I'm not angry at the vaxxed. My husband got the shot to keep his healthcare job. I try very very hard not to think about that. He's a very trusting sort of person. Never even suggested the kids or I get it (he understands risk groups), and I think there are many like him. I hope he'll be OK. So far so good. Other people dear to me got all shot up because they have a disabled family member in the home for whom every respiratory infection is life-threatening. They thought it would protect her. I hope they'll be OK.

Mostly, though, I try not to think about it at all. On a population-wide level, sure. But the mind shies away from individual vaxed, because I want to know what's going on with this gigantic medical experiment, but I still hope it won't apply to anybody I know. It's a weird tightrope walk. Already lost a second-cousin in her forties to a sudden and unexpected catastrophic organ failure. I really, really, don't want that to happen to anyone else.

[tritumi]

notes:

1. Regarding whistleblowers, last week I posted that Pfizer's legal defense against fraud is simply that the gov't knows already. In some sarcasm I noted: This is a sound legal position.

But in fact this judgement is enthroned in precedent.

"In 2016, the Supreme Court ruled in Universal Health Services v. United States ex rel. Escobar that a fraud lawsuit could be dismissed if the government continued to pay the contractor. The court reasoned that if the government continues to pay a company despite fraudulent activity, then the fraud is not material to the contract. That ruling functionally neutered application of the False Claims Act against many companies that are so large that the government cannot abruptly sever payments, especially against large health care interests and defense contractors. Recent court decisions, including cases involving Honeywell and Halliburton, show contractors winning dismissal of fraud cases by simply citing continued government payments."

https://theintercept.com/2021/11/29/pfizer-whistleblower-reform-corporate-fraud/

So if you want to commit fraud on a really grand scale, invite the government to the party. As, Yosarian said, that Catch 22 is some catch.

2. Nietzsche is often poorly understood. When his avatar declaimed "God is dead", his next said, "and man has killed him." Far from staking a position in nihilism, Nietzsche was lamenting the loss of the mystical and spiritual in hopes of preserving what could be preserved.

3. "e-clots" and myocarditis. Shortened life spans.

[(Anonymous)]

Yesterday, my best friend's brother-in-law gave up the struggle against the multiple heart conditions he had suffered with since getting vaccinated. He had been in-patient in the hospital for several weeks prior, as his conditions spiraled downhill and he lost the will to live. I can only imagine how much fatigue and pain he must have been experiencing to stop all his efforts to recover and just wait for death to resolve the unresolvable dilemma he had been placed in. The times we're living through are truly tragic, in the ancient Greek sense of the word.

Prayers to any deities, saints, or guardian angels for the safe passage of his soul, and mercy for his children, his wife, and her sister (my best friend) would be welcomed.

- Christophe

[(Anonymous)]

I am so sorry to hear about your friend's loss, Christophe.
I have prayed for the soul of the newly deceased. Do what you can to console your best friend.

I am afraid that in coming months more people in this group will have similar stories of friends and relations having an untimely end due to 'rabid foxes'.

Ron M