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polytheist monasticismI'm delighted to announce that Polytheist Monasticism: Voices from Pagan Cloisters is now in print.  It's an anthology, edited by Janet Munin, of essays by people involved in one way or another in the emerging world of polytheist and animist monastic life.Yes, there are monks and nuns in polytheist traditions; there were monastic traditions in polytheism long before Johnny-come-lately faiths such as Christianity and Buddhism were born; and the revival of polytheism in recent years has inspired a significant number of people to take up a vocation as polytheist monks and nuns.

The essays in this book were written by some of the people involved in that movement. I've got a piece in there, about the process by which the Ancient Order of Druids in America organized its own monastic system, but there are other essays in the collection that are much more interesting! 

(All this is timely for another reason. One of the tasks on the horizon as I sort out the legacy of my late teacher John Gilbert is the revival of the Universal Gnostic Church, the religious tradition he inherited from his teachers and passed on to a handful of successors. The UGC had, among other things, its own monastic orders, the Order of the Universal Monk and the Order of the Universal Nun, and those will need to be reactivated as well in due time.) 

If you're interested in the anthology, why, it's now in print and hitting bookstore shelves. You can order a copy here if you live in the United States (they're temporarily backordered but should have more copies soon) and here if you live anywhere else in the world. 

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Date: 2022-04-01 11:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jprussell
Would you mind sharing some of the ancient polytheistic monastic traditions you're familiar with? I'd be interested in looking into them a bit more, as it's not something I'm familiar with (though I suppose the enclaves of Pythagoras and Epicurus might count, now that I think about it).

Incidentally, I've received my pre-ordered copy of the book, and I can confirm for anyone wondering that physically it's a nice quality paperback and the contents indeed look interesting. Looking forward to reading it next year after I've completed my resolution to only read dead folks this year.

Polytheistic Monasticism

Date: 2022-04-02 01:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I got my copy a couple weeks ago, and I love the book! It definitely lives up to expectations. There are a lot of good ideas and perspectives in here, that we can adapt, if we wish, to our own way of living and our own spiritual expression. And it is inspiring, even just as a reading experience. I’ve already re-read it a couple of times, in the spirit of lectio divina!

JMG: Will you give us the opportunity here to discuss your new book on Pluto?

Winifred Hodge Rose

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Date: 2022-04-02 04:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jprussell
I'd be interested in seeing the discussion, though I haven't had a chance to read the book yet.

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Date: 2022-04-02 06:57 pm (UTC)
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I would like to see that too and participate even though I haven't finished the book just yet.

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Date: 2022-04-02 07:22 pm (UTC)
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Yes, I'd be interested in the effects of the discovery and demotion of Pluto, whether here or on ecosophia.net.

On the original subject, what relation does the Universal Gnostic Church of John Gilbert have to those of Jean Bricaud and Samael Aun Weor, who have been credited with founding identical or very similar sounding movements?

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Date: 2022-04-02 09:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
I had no idea Samael Aun Weor (Víctor Manuel Gómez Rodríguez) was a known figure outside of hispanic circles! All I know of him only relates to his Quetzalcoatl Gnosis Cultural Institute but it seems he had a wider reach.

Edit: Interesting, he actually seems to have been quite the figure! I thought he was just a local guy. I wish I remember how I went from Ser to Samael Aún Weor. It probably was researching Ser and Edmond Bordeaux Szekely
Edited Date: 2022-04-02 09:58 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2022-04-03 04:04 am (UTC)
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Just to resolve a bit of confusion: I take it you are using "episcopal" here to mean "of or pertaining to bishops and bishopry" as opposed to anything to do with the Anglican/Episcopal church? My wife was raised Episcopalian, so I tend to add the capital "E" unconsciously unless I stop and think about it.

Even if so, I'm a bit interested to learn more about what episcopal "lineage" going back to the Liberal Catholic Church (or even the Unitarian Church, for that matter) means for a non-Christian, should you be willing to expand a bit.

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Date: 2022-04-03 07:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jprussell
Thank you! Being raised a rather indifferent Methodist, I was not familiar with that tradition.

So, the lineage goes back to Jesus, but at some fairly recent point, it lost the requirement of being explicitly Christian? This might be lingering Christian "one true way or heresy" thinking, but I'm scratching my head a bit, since you have said multiple times that you're not Christian, but this particular position/blessing seems to derive its power/holiness/legitimacy from explicitly Christian roots.

Please let me know if I'm just being thick or closed-minded, but if you could talk a bit more about how you square a lineage going back to Jesus with not especially venerating Jesus, I'd appreciate it.

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Date: 2022-04-04 12:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jprussell
Thanks very much for this, that helps quite a bit.

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Date: 2022-04-02 02:15 pm (UTC)
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So happy to hear this, looks like a must-read!

One question: Will the Universal Gnostic Church be a joinable organization once you are done renovating/reviving it?

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Date: 2022-04-05 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lincoln_lynx
I was surprised when reading the latest MM, when you mentioned the UGC not using
banishing rituals, I figured that would be one of the practices.

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Date: 2022-04-03 07:43 pm (UTC)
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Polytheist Monasticism-
Oh wow. Say that 3 times fast.

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