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As promised, I've completed my tentative delineation of the upcoming Saturn-Neptune conjunction and posted it as a public post on my SubscribeStar and Patreon venues. You can read them here: https://www.subscribestar.com/john-michael-greer
https://www.patreon.com/posts/hinge-of-ages-20-150048624
(It's the same text on both venues, btw.) All in all, I found the delineation rather surprising, because it has noticeably positive features. Most of my mundane predictions have been less than sunny; to be fair, that's what the heavens have had to pass on, but it's become a source of amusement to me to watch myself becoming a purveyor of bad news from the stars. This time -- well, there will certainly be disruptions and troubles, but the whole chart points forward to Jupiter in his exaltation, which is kind of a difficult hint to miss!
At any rate, since Saturn-Neptune conjunctions in the beginning of Aries happen only once every several millennia and the sample size is therefore rather low, this is a tentative prediction at best. Make of it what you will. Oh, and yes, I know that there's also an eclipse coming up. I plan on posting that for my subscribers as soon as I get it delineated.
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Date: 2026-02-07 02:47 pm (UTC)Last June through August was a particularly important period - Jupiter squared Saturn and Neptune shortly before the two giants came within just a few minutes of perfecting the conjunction in late Pisces. and just sat there stationary for a few days before separating. It is worth checking what was going on in your life then, as the conjunction perfecting now will likely have related themes.
Typically the effects of the outer planets (Jupiter on out) are mediated in the natal chart by their effect on the personal planets - Sun. Moon, Mercury, Venus. Pay attention to aspects to those planets in your natal and to the natal angles.
If you use solar returns I would look at the one in effect last summer, and if you have one coming up in the next few months I would consider that also.
I've been watching this closely - my natal Mercury is 29 Pisces 20 so I've been in the cross-hairs of this for months now. It's been, um, interesting and intense...
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Date: 2026-02-06 01:38 am (UTC)Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 08:35 am (UTC)Time to check my software (iPhemeris). According to that the conjunction perfects at 16:54:02 UTC (i.e. 4:54 pm) with planets at 0d45’10” of Aries.. You have it at 7:04 pm UTC. I checked online and the Iternet agrees with me, so why the discrepancy? Is there something I’m not taking into account? For the country charts it makes a big difference as everything changes house.
Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 12:25 pm (UTC)Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 02:54 pm (UTC)Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 03:23 pm (UTC)It may even come down to a matter of definition. Since Saturn and Neptune are both so huge, what exactly counts as the moment of conjunction? The point at which the planetary centers of gravity are exactly lined up? Or what?
Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 06:41 pm (UTC)Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 07:34 pm (UTC)Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 06:55 pm (UTC)Zodiacal longitude is part scientific data, part symbolic frame of reference. The miracle is that it still seems to give meaningful results.
Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 07:34 pm (UTC)Of course parallels of declination are just as symbolic as aspects, if not more so -- but they also work. Funny about that... ;-)
Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 09:55 pm (UTC)In this case it seems that:
The 16:54 time is geocentric and uses the true geometric centres (e.g. Swiss Ephemeris default). This is the modern astrological standard and is used by most software (Solar Fire, Kepler, Astro.com, iPhemeris) and for global chart interpretation.
The 19:04 time is topocentric and uses the true geometric centres for a specific Earth location. As such it is used by some traditional or technically meticulous astrologers for event charts for a specific place.
Then there is the 20:42 time which is geocentric and makes use of the apparent disk/limb contact. This is an older astronomical observation method which is less common in mainstream astrology these days.
So which is the right one to use? I’ve no idea so, like you said, it’s probably best to delineate for each one and work it out from what actually happens.
In the case of London (and western Europe) using the 16:54 time puts the conjunction in the 8th house. It suggests to me that the UK’s and Europe’s trade arrangements will be totally rewritten - something that seems to be happening as we speak. However, the 8th house is also the house of death and Saturn in this house is normally indicative of a rise in the death rate. In this case, he’s in his fall in Aries and conjunct malefic Neptune, the planet of mass phenomena. So I can’t help thinking that this might be indicative of a significant reduction in the population over the next 36 years.
Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-07 10:11 pm (UTC)I looked at my paper copy of the Astrolabe World Ephemeris, 2001-2050, for information about what the computations are based on and the accuracy we can expect from them. Under the heading "The Limits of Ephemeris Accuracy," it states, "NASA and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory have done extremely precise planetary computations for calculating the trajectories of lunar and planetary probes, and these are now the basis of the Astronomical Ephemeris. However, even with these the Neptune positions are still suspect, as the new computations still do not account for the position of Galileo's sighting of Neptune. The difference between the JPL position for Neptune in Galileo's time and the position consistent with his observation is still about 1 minute of arc, quite large for such a short period of time."
(JMG - this reminds me of your discussion about Neptune's discovery in your mundane astrology book. It seems entirely consistent with Neptune's character for Neptune's position to be unclear like this.)
The discussion I'm quoting from goes on to say, "These inaccuracies are not large enough to matter when you are doing calculations for births during this century timed only to the minute. They do, however, prevent you from doing things like computing a chart for the exact time a Uranus-Pluto (or any other outer planet) aspect forms. These planets move so slowly that the time given in an ephemeris for such an aspect may not be accurate even to the day, let alone the hour and minute. Such inaccuracy is not due to the sloppiness of the ephemeris compiler, it is due to the still present (though the situation is much improved) inadequacies of present-day planetary theory."
Perhaps things are better now since this was written 25 years ago, but if not, then maybe all we can say for sure is the general characteristics of a conjunction between Saturn and Neptune and what aspects the conjunction has with the planets other than the Moon and how they modify the conjunction. It would be in character for Neptune for things to be uncertain like that.
Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-08 04:54 am (UTC)Per your comment of
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/355036.html?thread=58774236#cmt58774236
they are in orb when within 3 degrees of each other applying, and 1 degree apart separating.
With my very amateurish use of CafeAstrology (those with software can do better, I'm sure), the conjunction is in orb between 7-8 January to 4 March of this year. So perfection or not, we are in the throes of this conjunction right now. And I am feeling it.
I've been journeying into Christianity since early 2022, but especially in the last week or so I've been feeling "spiritually logey" and have stepped away from the music on the radio. Still doing a nightly Bible reading, though. Per another discussion on that same Magic Monday (https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/355036.html?thread=58775260#cmt58775260), it seems like a good time to take things easy... very easy... and just lie low till these two brutuses go out of orb.
If you want to see some really interesting planetary alignments, check out
https://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar
for 7 January, 2026 and 4 March 2026.
Set "Size" to 500 or greater for a clearer view.
Frankly, "ouwtch!" for both diagrams.
- Cicada Grove
Re: Perfection?
Date: 2026-02-06 07:09 pm (UTC)It is like digital clocks. An analog clock will give a time around 12:20 or so while a digital clock may read 12:19:47, so the digital looks more precise. Factor in margin of error and the greater accuracy is largely illusion, a function of the media doing the calculation.
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Date: 2026-02-06 02:02 pm (UTC)I have a great interest in this conjunction because one of my natal planets is directly opposite.
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Date: 2026-02-06 02:19 pm (UTC)An event chart is the chart for some occurrence other than the birth of a person. The techniques used to make sense of a natal chart don't always apply to event charts.
With one of your natal planets opposing the conjunction, the affairs of the house of your natal chart in which that planet was placed when you were born, and the affairs of the house or houses that planet rules, will likely be disturbed by the influence of the conjunction. Check the condition of Saturn and Neptune in your natal chart, and from that you can get some sense of how the disturbance will play out.
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Date: 2026-02-06 06:38 pm (UTC)And thanks JMG--3 of my houses are ruled by that planet, oh joy. And Saturn and Neptune are relatively strongly placed and square to each other. Oh, I can't wait! Not...
Planetary Staircase
Date: 2026-02-06 02:49 pm (UTC)This looks like an astrological factor is at work in the decline you've been writing about and your notion of a staircase where after a disaster, things resolve for awhile at another lower level of stability.
Thank you. Fascinating!
Justin Patrick Moore
Re: Planetary Staircase
Date: 2026-02-06 03:46 pm (UTC)Cheers,
Nachtgurke
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Date: 2026-02-06 03:54 pm (UTC)Cheers,
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Date: 2026-02-06 05:25 pm (UTC)--Sister Crow
Thank you!
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Date: 2026-02-08 12:02 am (UTC)With regard to the differences in calculated time for the conjunction, will observational data on the 20th allow us to settle the matter? Since the conjunction will be in orb for months yet that’s still a lot of time to make use of the information.
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Date: 2026-02-08 04:55 am (UTC)- Cicada Grove
disruptive technology
Date: 2026-02-08 08:07 am (UTC)My nomination for a technology that is already disruptive and will be more so to an extent we can barely imagine is the drone. Observational drones are already a major tool of government surveillance.
In a few decades, drones have developed from a hobbyist toy to a serious weapon whose further development has turned into a multinational arms race. Ukraine has held off Russia by being more nimble in the deployment of drones to conserve her fighting forces.
Although drones might become as significant a change in the way wars are won as aircraft, I think their real disruptive effects are coming from the fact that armed drones are as democratic a weapon as firearms. As long as the chips that control their balance and movement are cheap and widely available, and so are radio controllers and fiber optic cable, anyone can build them, anyone can modify them, anyone can pilot them, and anyone can possess them.
Drones travel in the air, on land, over and under water. They can be miniaturized. They can be controlled individually or in flocks. They can carry guns and explosives. They can carry smaller drones. They are cheap and getting cheaper.
Pretty soon most of the gun owners in America are going to want to be drone owners. Law enforcement took awhile to deal with the fact that drug traffickers had automatic weapons. What are they going to do when the kinds of anti-government groups which used to have homemade bombs have drones as a delivery system?
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Date: 2026-02-08 06:11 pm (UTC)Then there's resource constraints. Maybe there is a fit of sanity and we have to pull the plug on that techno fantasy.
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Date: 2026-02-08 09:22 pm (UTC)Thanks,
Milkyway
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Date: 2026-02-09 08:43 am (UTC)Fun times, huh? ;-)
The Russo-Ukrainian War during the Hinge of Ages
Date: 2026-02-08 10:14 pm (UTC)There are a number of interesting points regarding this conflict, such as the resurgence of WWI tactics (which JMG has written about), the integration of drones for varied uses (recon, targeting correction, kamikaze attacks, anti-personnel, etc), and propaganda. On that last point, there is an entire fake version of the war spun up by media and intelligence agencies, with large swaths of the Western world being gaslit into following a mirage. A major reason why so many are susceptible is that the propaganda is built on the Fantasy Fallacy (as I call it), or Jedi Brain, or Stormtrooper Syndrome (JMG's term). This means that with Russian victory, the whole illusion will come crashing down.
But more than that, this has its roots in the postwar monomyth or the Boomer Truth Regime (also covered by JMG) in which WWII was the time when the racist, fascist darkness rose up, and was banished by the progressive Light. The Russo-Ukrainian war, along with the Culture War, has naturally been framed this way, and one reason for recent hysterics is that the Left can't seem to defeat Trump, so that the story is not playing out as it should. This means of course that when Russia wins, the monomyth will go completely off the rails, and the Western elites will lose even more credibility and legitimacy.
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Date: 2026-02-09 10:31 am (UTC)Please tell me there is some reason to think this isn't heralding the replacement of philosophy. maths, logic, etc., with artificial versions? I mean, I know LLMs "don't work", but they seem to be on course to replace us anyway. Would Jupiter be exalted by the end of the age of (human) reason?
Too long to post?
Date: 2026-02-20 02:26 pm (UTC)It’s a process in motion so is changing, but here is where it’s at today, Saturday February 20th 2026:
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Arise!
In gratitude and awe, with wonder, humility and respect.
By the grace of the cosmos I make a choice,
May I act in harmony and flowing balance.
May the life-giving light of the sun, and the richness and beauty of the earth,
Purify, protect, and gently illuminate my Heart,
Sustaining, and guiding me on the way,
As I take responsibility for following my path.
May a swift wind of clarity clear my thinking and allow me to discern wisdom from foolishness,
And may the waters of the world cleanse body and mind as they refresh and support me on the way.
As I swim in the Ocean of Consciousness that is Life,
May the Divine guide me true through the flowing aether,
To the inner light of compassionate wisdom and peace.
Arise!
And look within to transform fear with gentleness, anger with kindness, cruelty with love, worry to calm with right action, and sadness with courage to do what needs to be done.
With the fierceness of Love, find courage to stand and endure,
Sometimes stirring a cooking pot with a spoon,
But with the knowledge and ability to fight to protect your people with a sword in extremity.
Those who spurn learning how to fight are not peaceful, they are merely harmless.
This world is one of polarities, some evolve on an expanding spiral, others choose to devolve on a contracting spiral until they choose otherwise.
It is the human who understands the risk of lifting a sword and chooses not to who is the peaceful one.
We are consciousness experiencing this world of sensation using an mammalian animal body.
The Sufi Hazrat Inayat Khan summarised it nicely:
“The true delight of the soul lies in love, harmony, and beauty, the outcome of which is wisdom, calm, and peace; the more constant they are the greater is the satisfaction of the soul.
“As man begins to see clearly through human life, the world begins to appear as a forest to him, filled with wild animals, fighting, killing and preying upon one another.
“There are four different classes of men who harmonize with each other in accordance with their different states of evolution: angelic, human, animal, and devilish.
“The angelic seeks for heaven, and the human being struggles along in the world; the man with animal propensities revels in his earthly pleasures, while the devilish man is engaged in creating mischief, thereby making a hell for himself and for others. Man after his human evolution becomes angelic, and through his development in animality arrives at the stage of devil.”
Humans have choice – how they use that choice means one might be face to face with an angel or a devil. Beware of the human with a mask of an angel hiding a devilish nature.
John Michael Greer came up with a Samurai aphorism that also puts it nicely:
“Sometimes unconditional love is best shown with the edge of a sword.”
The difficult thing is knowing whether action is ‘Just’ or simply self-serving ‘Justice’ of devolving humans.
Hence the important path of developing Inner Life,
The Grace of Intuition is the only sure way, but it can take a lifetime or lifetimes to realise that.
Find self-control through Conscience,
To observe well and remain in flowing balance.
Be Just and true through respect and right relationships with all beings and things.
And may Beauty and Love fortify me to stand true.
To see within as I look without,
To hear the stillness of inner peace as I listen to the world,
That I might comprehend the path to take.
May compassionate wisdom uphold me and light a path in truth,
May grace touch my heart like the perfume of an opening rose,
Sweet nectar in this world of polarities.
Step carefully on the path, for error is always close,
And remember the wise ones who have ever cautioned to unfold the self for wider perception,
Expansion and evolution,
And warned against only recognising self in self-absorption and intoxication of senses and sensation,
Contraction and devolution.
And in repose, remember Death,
The great transition from one form to another.
As Birth is one journey, so Death is another.
I see death, I pause and breathe,
I face death and remain calm,
My body dies but I rise above it like a glowing star.
I see my body as my heart rises above and beyond,
The body is dead but shining consciousness is calm and clear,
Death swirls and I am released.
I use the inner eye and watch the passage of death.
Love abides
And through the inner eye,
There is light,
And I Am
And so,
Blend a Telluric Smile with Solar laughter to find a human belly-laugh.
Take it further, as the tears and fire of laughter call out,
Resonating with the Beauty of Life beyond the human form,
And then, find yourself beyond,
Laughing in the midst of a smiling galaxy
Expanding in the delight of loving laughter
To play a new part in the Cosmic Comedy.
I call out to Life,
Life within and Life without,
Life near and Life afar,
Whether alone or in a multitude,
I sing this Song of Life.
Arise!
May I be guided true today in feelings, thoughts and actions,
Love, compassion and wisdom within me and around me,
Guiding me in choice and action
May the inner flame of Consciousness be pure and bright.
Borne in the light of the Absolute,
May I swim true in the Ocean of Consciousness.
Arise!
May I recognise Light in the hearts of those I think of,
Light In those I speak of, and Light in those I meet.
To recognise Life in others and to examine and judge only myself.
And so to find and follow the pure light paths,
Of true dances on the Paths of Life.
Arise!
And give thanks for the gift of Life.
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Re: Too long to post?
Date: 2026-02-20 09:29 pm (UTC)And as a person with no idea what day it is, the above should be considered in that context! ;)
By the way, last night (Thursday) around 7pm uk we had a strange feeling - there was a sudden stillness that we both noticed... hard to describe but like the world paused. Tonight same time and onwards, nothing similar.
Sacred Geometry reading
Date: 2026-02-20 06:00 pm (UTC)With this being both an end and a beginning i did two draws.
For What is ending - 1 Card
Card 26 upright Continuous Proportion - Correspondence
I read this as our ability to effect this change is quite limited. This change is happening regardless of what we do.
Second Draw - What is beginning - 9 Cards
Saturn's Card - Card 9 reversed - The Cross -Descension
The divide between old order and the new order will be a source of conflict.
Neptune's Card - Card 24 reversed - Unexpectedness
LOL of course that would be Neptune's card
The Conjunction's Card - Card 2 reversed - Commitment
Another LOL of course once this change has started you can't back out.
Short term effect on Me - Card 26 reversed - Necessity
The effect will be what it is and there is nothing i can do about it.
Short term effect on USA -Card 27 upright - Continuous Proportion - Harmony
This is the big surprise of this reading - This card is the best omen in the deck
Things will work out well for the USA in the short run. ( personally expected the opposite)
Short Term effect on Mankind - Card 21 upright - The Spiral - Unfolding
Another LOL of course, early effect that may take us to unexpected places.
Long term effect on Me - Card 11 reversed - Isolation
Seems to say i will be working on myself
Long term effect on USA - Card 22 reversed - Imperfection
Over the long term the change will be both good and bad.
Long Term for Mankind - Card 12 Reversed - Inertia
another LOL - we will be stuck in this new situation for a long time