Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 29

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The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments -- to understate the matter considerably! -- so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as Canadian officials launch a campaign of reprisals against citizens who supported a peaceful protest against government policy, and the words "died suddenly" become the favorite media euphemism of our time, the floor is open for discussion.   

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

yo, dear anonymous-

it's me, erika.

i'm gonna be the change i wanna see and dear Papa G you said you had Asperger's and people's emotions aren't your strong suit so please permit and forgive me:

dear anonymous-

yeah it sucks and even my best friend in the world, James, is hella hurt by JMG (as he calls him) arguing or not agreeing with him. the innerwebs are delicate because in real life James loves nothing more than an intellectual brawl.

but the innerwebs are tricky and even i get itchy at having my comments "approved" or "declined" here. it's a control thing and i hate that about the innerwebs: anyone can keep you out because it's not the Real World.

that's why i love the Real World. where no one can keep me OUT.

(not true i just like how it sounds like a movie poster)

anyhow, yeah it hella SUCKS to be censored and it's pretty amazing after THAT thing months ago, that you came back. COOL.

but where else you gonna go? good. START SOMETHING. THAT IS ALSO THE POINT: start something in the REAL.

in the meantime, THIS is what we've got. those of us who're artists alchemists thinkers tinkerers and magicians some are weird trolls (i have empathy for the trolls because ...REALLY? life is short but trolling online is another form of living suicide but the BORING kind. you're the living dead and just tearing down not building UP...

BUILDERS ..this place is about BUILDING UP. not complaining although it's all over and real and relevant. but we're here to figure out WHAT TO DO NEXT.

so feel pissed off and hate JMG Greer Papa G John Michael Greer Archdruid Asshole...whatever YOU wanna call him.

and you know what? here's the BEST way to use his Asperger's to your advantage... as in don't fight it USE IT:

The Archdruid can take whatever anyone dishes at him and HE WILL TAKE IT IN AND LISTEN and not get caught up in his emotions BACK AT YOU. this is key. i doubt he'll even back-and-forth with you, but that's not because he doesn't RESPECT YOU...

it's because his focus is entirely on something ELSE. he told you straight up he doesn't see all that emotion and the innerwebs will handicap us ALL there.

so... it's great you went off and told him how you feel and i beg of you to not take it personally because I AM SAD THAT JAMES TAKES HIMSELF OUT OF THE CONVERSATION FOR HIS FEELING HURT AND DISCARDED AND DISCOUNTED.

but that's the internet, right?

we're missing all the cues... the internet is one big face diaper mask thing over ALL OF US here. it's a struggle. so i beg of you to rage feel hurt because yeah it's REAL but man... please if you can stand to hang here a little longer and know we're ALL catching up to how everything ...

well, conspiracies keep on turning out to not only be real but no one bothers to hide their evil plans and cackles as someone so rightly pointed out here already and we're struggling to keep our heads wits about us because none of ANY of this makes SENSE.

i would've cut ...well, i won't even HAVE anything like this because i don't want the hassle.

so yeah... don't just blow it off or go away ...THIRD WAY. but i hope it isn't lurking indifferently like James.

however, i bring James back here by all we discuss and argue about and then i write in here. he won't read ME because he lives with me but he sometimes digs the conversations-- comments of the OTHER commentators--- and where they go.

this is a weird little thing happening here and don't --you CANNOT--compare this to anything happening anywhere else. and unless you have one of ME at home willing to re-route your ideas and thoughts back to us, then please go get pissed off and Papa G can TAKE it and will take it.

that's the PLUS the GOLD of folks who can take us emotional wild types. use their solidity to try this calm rage thing out.

i'm too-much-informationing you because i dug how Temporary Reality hung in with me til she realized i'm grunting and she's LIKE PAPA G-- talking about a future and destiny so far forward i'm remedial and she's ahead of me. i love that! and she fights for PRECISION.

she'll think i'm too dumb to follow her and i am for the innerwebs but she and i will meet in real life one day; she's not far from me.

in the meantime i'm fighting for you to stick it out in a medium i resent but understand how it's gone from being a cauldron of godless human despair and misery to ...THIS. whatever we're doing.

Wolf at Wolfstreet.com, my dear friend here in SF, he won't even READ comments before bed because it messes with his head and thus his ability to SLEEP.

Archdruid is on here all hours and can take the caterwauling troll souls that would fell a mere mortal as if it were a blow with a great axe from Paul Bunyan himself.

so be pissed but i hope you come back. it's hella crazy and we're all trying to figure out how to lurch crawl or fling ourselves forward into just the DAY, forget the mxtherfxckin' FUTURE.

erika

[(Anonymous)]

howdy erika who surfs in on the sparkling rays of shiva!

You write:
"The Archdruid can take whatever anyone dishes at him and HE WILL TAKE IT IN AND LISTEN and not get caught up in his emotions BACK AT YOU. this is key. "

YES. EXACTLY.

As one who has been coming here every day for many weeks now, I value this forum for information, news, and above all a solace for the isolation I've been thrust into by covid, more than I can say. I am a careful and polite commenter but I too have had a few posts JMG decided not to put through-- but hey, I'm not the host, I'm not the moderator, and triple hey, the reason I come here as often as I do is that (...drumroll...)

JMG MODERATES.

His moderation means that I know I can say something from my heart and, of course people might not agree with me, and they might say so, but I won't ever come back here looking for solace only to find a rude personal attack.

Everyone can say that-- and that takes work.

Erika, I know that you know this, but it seems not everyone has really stopped to think about it: JMG has put in countless hours of his attention in protecting this forum, reading through and deciding on avalanches of posts every single day, day after day, week after week. And because it is moderated so well (even if I or you or someone else might make different choices here and there) this forum lifts my spirits-- and I think most of the commentariat can say that, too. In the tarry mosh pit of the Internet, that is an extremely rare and beautiful thing.

Miss P

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly don't know how JMG does it time & energy-wise. He writes new articles, presents new information, all in-depth, and moderates this page which is the equivalent of an oasis in the midst of madness.
And has his life.
To call the words here 'articles and information' seems a very weak description.
As a Canadian this 'place' has been a lifeline.
The comments, moderated as they are, contain numerous uplifting moments. Uplifting moments like the tip of a giant triangle entering a sphere-opening vast fields- not a rehashing of dread. Well maybe a lot of the statistics are dread-full but such is reality.
I do not deny being a 'conspiracy-head' but, being also rather metaphysical - although not as in-depth knowledgeable as many commenters here, not by a long shot, I appreciate the 'change-of-perspective.'
The moderation of comments allows my conspiracy-head to escape dread and breathe in the oasis.

Just a few thoughts about the Grassy Knoll before I go (JOKE!!!!!)
Fuchsia Exasperating Griffin

[(Anonymous)]

Miss P,
i cut and pasted "erika who surfs in on the sparkling rays of shiva!" TWICE into my desktop notes because it makes me feel tingles and glitter. thank you.

AND thank you for fighting for THIS, what we have here, because it is now The Archdruid who is The Pretty One of all of us Pretty Ones. just because he's a man with a very very big long beard, don't for a second think he's NOT The Pretty One:

i'd bet anything he'd do what he does even if no one read or cared. but everything went tits up all at once, and once we all started changing our minds, our religions, our mates, or genders, and our class status and incomes and all our futures spiraled into cliffs like crashing planes, ever since then we've all found him spellbindingly beautiful and have been insinuating ourselves into his entire existence craving a different bed time story.

i know i'm not just speaking for myself because i hardly pay attention to anyone else myself, but i plum totally done ran outta road like everyone else anywhere in this world.

speaking of which--

to further try and understand Regular People, i'm reading Christopher Lasch's REVENGE OF THE ELITES because his name's been coming up a lot these last few weeks and man... talk about scrawling screams on the cave walls for those of us who come next! WOW. he's explaining--not Regular People--but man, he's explaining the liberal elites and their use of meritocracy and how it denies history or accountability on purpose, he's explaining their endless entitled disconnected oblivous bossiness as well as their contempt of community society and their own countries to me as if he's here NOW. he got all this about the U.S.'s disdain for hard work well before NAFTA because he died writing this in 1994.

if i'd read this book THEN, i would've figured it was sci fi for at future 200 years hence. but i feel that way about everything. that's why Papa G's centerfold calendar gorgeous to me now that even my guru big brother bestest friend ever James is as confused as me.

x

erika