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support groupThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Re: more re subliminal manipulation

Date: 2021-09-15 03:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] emmanuelg
Vermilion B, I can second that perception;
A couple of years ago, I got a Kindle Fire tablet to let me read e-books and listen to audiobooks. I find that I can't use it. It seems to have a mental presence that tries to drag you mentally one way or another-- With concentration I am able to force myself to sign into an eBook, but it is not worth the effort. This is a completely different experience than the original kindle reader (still have it), which feels passive, like a toaster or other appliance.
Also--Why is the Kindle Fire so insistent that I play "candy crush" or other time-wasting games? I suspect that there is a component in them designed to program the user in some way...
I may try reading an eBook and listening to an audiobook on it, and then the same file on a more stupid device to see if I perceive any difference in the media. This could indicate whether the unwanted effects are in the media or in the device. I suspect the device.

Re: more re subliminal manipulation

Date: 2021-09-15 08:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
I have a kindle paperwhite (an antique!) in order to read public domain books from Project Gutenberg, and have never had this problem.

But then, you couldn't pay me to own the full-color illuminated screen version. Stories like this make me feel a lot better about my inability to read long text on regular screens. Maybe it is protective!

Re: more re subliminal manipulation

Date: 2021-09-16 09:16 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I hope they haven’t stopped making the Paperwhite, mine’s about 8 years old and when it dies I’ll want another, and I don’t want a color tablet.

—Lady Cutekitten
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