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troubledThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

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Date: 2021-09-09 04:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] inavalon
The idea of "informed consent" is important here.

Is it not possible that repeatedly exposing and "anchoring" the client to horrible images of diseased lung tissue might unintentionally produce an undesirable effect? Such treatment might actually stimulate the development of those exact conditions in the client's own lungs.

The use of the language of violence (i.e. "going for the kill") is also troubling.

Edited Date: 2021-09-09 04:28 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2021-09-09 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I actually know someone who went to hypnosis to quit smoking and a similarly disgusting image (not her lungs - I think it was very vivid imagery of an exceptionally ugly old woman) was implanted in her mind with her consent to connect with smoking.

She said it was very effective for a few days/weeks and then the emotional charge went and it made no difference after that.
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