Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5
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1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: PCR test explanation
Date: 2021-09-09 10:42 pm (UTC)Tangentially related (to incompetence), a deftly written essay on the third force, stupidity. And some really fun art that looks like it's straight out of Jung's Red Book.
https://harpers.org/archive/2021/09/the-third-force-stupidity-and-transcendence/
Now back to your regularly scheduled Covid program :)
Re: Immune tolerance hypothesis
Date: 2021-09-09 10:53 pm (UTC)The State House put themselves in recess instead of ending their session just so they have the legal ability to rein him in, if needed. He's that bad. He did his best to pretend Idaho is a dense blue state for the whole pandemic, which is blatantly absurd, and try to order policies accordingly. This generally gets him way out of what he can actually do and begging localities to comply with turning his wishes into ordinances.
The only people who like Gov. Chicken Little are his owners, I mean, doners. His only chance of winning his primary is if the field is overly split. Which it looks like they're going for . . . and he's causing the Republican party here to shed voters like crazy.
BoysMom
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Date: 2021-09-09 10:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 10:57 pm (UTC)Invictus
BY William Ernest Henley
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.
Circumventing the vaccine?
Date: 2021-09-09 11:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 11:03 pm (UTC)Yet here we are.
--Mr. Nobody
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 11:10 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 11:16 pm (UTC)When I consider the profile of the people behind this vaccination drive, these are the same people that visit Davos, that spin the printing presses at the Fed. These are people for whom a few billion here, a few billion there, from drug sales, this is not a consequential amount to them really. Certainly not worth dedicating their extremely valuable time to. Just spin the presses a bit more, and siphon it off to Switzerland. Easy peasy. And yet they persist in spending time driving this vaccine program as hard as they possibly can. What is the motivation? I see 3 possibilities:
- 1) Genuine concern for others well being. Given this is not apparent in any other aspect of the behavior of the powerful, this option seems unlikely. Joe Blow the bench scientist? Probably worried for people. Dr. Smith, your concerned healthcare provider? Ok, maybe. The Davos set? Ha!
- 2) Money. This makes sense for your average Pharma VPs and stockholders, but these aren't the people jamming the agenda through. The powerful people moving this narrative ahead don't need the relatively paltry amount of profit made from vaccine sales, even if this pile of loot is more than most of us can even fathom. Small change to them. This option is also unlikely.
- 3) Some sort of biological agenda, for purposes unknown.
I haven't been able to derive a reasonable fourth option. And as Holmes says, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Can anyone else offer a fourth reasonable alternative explanation that I've missed?
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 11:21 pm (UTC)Combine that with the reports of brain fog and cognitive decline. Quaxxed pilots with heart problems. Quaxxed pilots getting landing clearances or takeoff clearances messed up. Did he say turn to 070 or 270? Was that climb to 8000 or 18000? Was that cleared to land on 36 left or 36 right? Do you feel lucky?
I would strongly strongly advise you not to travel on an airline once this edict goes into effect. We all may have taken our last airline flight for quite a while to come. Not that traveling on the ground will be that much safer (vaxxidents) but at least you have more agency in what happens.
I sense all sorts of unintended consequences coming up. This is just one of them.
Re: Recapitulating - Where do we stand?
Date: 2021-09-09 11:25 pm (UTC)Re: herd immunity
Date: 2021-09-09 11:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 11:29 pm (UTC)The positive I take from this is that the feds are having to get more and more heavy handed with poorer and poorer results.
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Date: 2021-09-09 11:29 pm (UTC)Re: Recent Article by David French
Date: 2021-09-09 11:29 pm (UTC)But how should we factor in requirements for basic curiosity and open mindedness? I have no idea where the facts will sort themselves out in the end. With the obfuscation going on, we may never know the true facts. But this whole episode feels a lot like the WMD issue many years ago now. I was a young dumb kid at the time, but even I could read a handful of articles on the early internet and rub two neurons together and say "something doesn't add up. Maybe we should pause and reflect before we enter a couple forever wars". This feels so similar. While I recognize the good will and concern coming from the monolithic wall of the vaccine shaming crowd, I also recognize it's coming from an incurious place. Which is very bothersome and off-putting.
Re: Spouse getting stabbed
Date: 2021-09-09 11:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 11:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 11:37 pm (UTC)Targeting Unvaxxed
Date: 2021-09-09 11:40 pm (UTC)An Opportunity
Date: 2021-09-09 11:42 pm (UTC)I'm fairly confident that a sizable number of other citizens will do the same, which in turn will cause a massive shortage of critical staff in a whole host of organizations which the bureaucracy depends on for survival. It's an own-goal of incredible stupidity. One could hardly dream of having such an effect otherwise, and it comes with very low relative risk or cost. We're all going to get hurt in what is coming any, and complying with the vaccination pressure won't make it any easier in the long run. Refusing simply changes the form and the timing of that cost somewhat.
The "Joe Biden" administration has nowhere near the support needed to pull off what they're attempting, and given his handlers are likely bright people they must know that. Therefore these maneuvers are a sign of desperation, and that they are under serious time pressure. I'm more than willing to try and wait them out.
Twilight
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Date: 2021-09-10 12:06 am (UTC)I don't want to be reduced, thank you very much!
Biden (& co.)
Date: 2021-09-10 12:11 am (UTC)Taking control.
Nothing can go wrong.
!
(This is the trouble when a virus refuses to be reasoned with.)
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-10 12:12 am (UTC)Methinks the Deplorables will not submit quietly.
—Lady Cutekitten
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-10 12:15 am (UTC)Re: What happens after genetic vaccination? – a hypothesis
Date: 2021-09-10 12:23 am (UTC)Stay healthy!
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-10 12:40 am (UTC)The mandates clearly seem to be providing the cover many institutions desire to enforce their own mandates. Los Angeles School District just announced vaccination will be required for all students 12 and above who want to attend in-person class. I imagine we will hear of many more such decisions in the coming days.