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vital bodyA little while ago I reread Peter Kelder's classic early 20th century occult exercise book, The Eye of Revelation.  It's partly a classic because of its framing -- it retails the standard cod story about a seeker finding a strange lamasery in Tibet where he learned mysterious exercises that he brought back to the Western world, and does so in high style -- but it's also a classic because the exercises it teaches, the Five Rites, are good solid physical culture exercises with reliable effects on the material and subtle bodies, and they have a substantial following all over the world these days. (You can read a good description of them here.) 

There are a few odd things about the Rites, however, and one of them -- to my mind, the most important of them -- is the set of energy centers described briefly in Kelder's text.  Here's what he has to say about them: 
 
“The first important thing I was taught after entering the Lamasery,” he began, “was this. The body has seven centres which, in English, could be called Vortexes. These are kind of magnetic centers. They revolve at great speed in the healthy body, but when slowed down – well, that is just another name for old age, ill-health, and senility.
 
“There are two of these Vortexes in the brain; one at the base of the throat; another in the right side of the body opposite the liver; one in the sexual center; and one in each knee.  These spinning centres of activity extend beyond the flesh in the healthy individual, but in the old, weak, senile person they hardly reach the surface, except in the knees. The quickest way to regain health, youth, and vitality is to start these magnetic centres spinning again.

"There are SEVEN Psychic Vortexes in the physical body. They are located as follows:
  • Vortex “A” is located deep within the forehead
  • Vortex “B” is in the posterior part of the brain
  • Vortex “C” located in throat at the base of the neck
  • Vortex “D” located in the right side of the body (waist line)
  • Vortex “E” is in the reproductive anatomy or organs
  • Vortexes “F” and “G” located one in either knee."
vortex locationsIn the illustration that accompanies the text, shown on the right, the placement of vortex D is shown as though you're looking in the mirror.  Earlier that led me to confuse it with the Theosophical idea of the spleen center as a major chakra, but this time, I was smart enough to pay attention and notice what the text actually says. 

There has been a lot of discussion in recent years about the source of the Five Rites, most of it based on the assumption that Kelder's claim of a Tibetan origin should be taken literally. Those seven energy centers, however, point in a different direction. You can find them discussed at length in the pages of Max Heindel's Rosicrucian Cosmo-Conception, from which I took the diagram at the top of this post. The same centers described in Kelder's book are shown in that diagram as points around which the desire body (astral body or aura) forms vortices. Here's one bit of Heindel on the subject: 

"There are no organs in the desire body, as in the dense and vital bodies, but there are centers of perception, which, when active, appear as vortices, always remaining in the same relative position to the dense body, most of them about the head. In the majority of people they are mere eddies and are of no use as centers of perception. They may be awakened in all, however, but different methods produce different results." 

Heindel got most of his ideas originally from Rudolf Steiner, whose student he was back before he came to the United States. I don't know Steiner's voluminous works well enough to know whether these same centers appear in them; I do know that they were picked up and used by some other Rosicrucian groups in the United States during the twentieth century.  There was a great deal of interest in energy centers other than the standard chakras at that time, not least because a rush of incautious students in the 1920s tried to practice it using Sir John Woodroffe's book The Serpent Power as their manual, with disastrous results. (According to Manly P. Hall, the body count was considerable.) Since the Five Rites work quite well -- I've practiced them with good results -- and Heindel's Rosicrucian Fellowship has earned a solid reputation as one of the saner occult groups out there (I'd probably be a member myself if I was a Christian and could handle a vegetarian diet), tracing the lore of these centers and seeing if there are other practices that make use of them is one of my current research projects.

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Date: 2021-03-13 08:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
Fascinating, given the status of spirituality in the west I sometimes forget that many people in the not too distant past have studied all this with great attention. When I am doing my practices, meditating or just sitting quietly and withdrawn to myself I started to notice that the center between my eyebrows spins and does so more strongly if I focus on it. I can tell it to switch direction too. I have no idea what would be the effects of doing that so I don’t but I found that interesting and think it is perhaps related to how each of the two main pathways switches in dominance every 90 minutes or so.

One thing that I find interesting as well about similar exercises like Hatha Yoga done in a particular order is that they seem to activate the vortexes in a particular way, for example the whole set of Surya Namaskar of twelve steps done properly attunes your energy body to the 12 years and a bit cycle of the sun.

When you do the Five Rites, do you do them focusing at any given point in your body and if you do have you seen particular effects of it?

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Date: 2021-03-13 11:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
Oh, thank you. Is that clockwise from your perspective if you were looking at me?

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Date: 2021-03-13 08:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fringewood
For some reason I got quite excited reading about this. I'm not sure if I have done the rites before...they look quite familiar.....but I think it is time I started! Thanks for this.. I look forward to reading what you learn from your research.

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Date: 2021-03-14 12:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fringewood
Thanks:-)

cold shower

Date: 2021-03-14 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Fascinating, thank you for posting this.

What do you make of this on page 25:
"The other suggestion is to take either a tepid bath or a cool, but not cold, one after practicing the Rites. Going over the body quickly with a wet towel and then with a dry one is probably even better.
One thing I must caution you against: you must never take a shower, tub, or wet towel bath which is cold enough to chill you even slightly internally. If you do, you will have undone all the good you have gained from performing the Five Rites."

Re: cold shower

Date: 2021-03-14 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sorry, I should have been more specific - how do you think the interaction might work energetically?
i.e. how might cold interfere with the effects of the rites/exercises?

On the one hand I could see that a technique to spin up energy centres might be disrupted by a sudden introduction of a cold contracting element after the engine is started; yet at the same time, IIRC introducing cold to the testes can increase sperm production. In many of the taoist exercise I've looked at, use of cold at the correct time, like heat at another, can be most efficacious.

I don't understand much about it - maybe it is as simple as interference from a sudden equilibrium disruption - I'll have to try the exercises/rites and test it out!

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Date: 2021-03-13 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hm! I would like to try the Five Rites - do you think they would interfere in some way with the practice of the SOP?

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Date: 2021-03-14 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Does this include the full DA SoP? Just tried the 5TR out and they feel pretty great.

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Date: 2021-03-14 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm in Grade IV, and a single performance certainly felt mutually reinforcing: Something clearly in the same vein as the 7 Nywfre Exercises and the Grand Psychic Breath, but like it came at it from a different direction and scratched an itch I didn't know I had.

Symbolically, it's not quite a clean 7, but taking a hint from the Ogham assignments in the DMH, I'd assign the 1st Rite to Spirit, and the remaining 4 rites to the material elements. Now to meditate on which is which . . . .

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Date: 2021-03-13 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I started doing the rites three years ago and noticed a very strong increase in sexual energy. I had to stop after a few months due to an injury. I picked up the practice some months later and continued until I had another injury. Back in November last year I started all over again and now do 21 repetitions of each of the rites nearly every day. The increase in sexual energy has never returned though, like it was the first time. I have been aware of subtle changes to my spiritual practice though, in particular related to my ability in visualization and meditation.

Theosophia Practica by Johann Georg Gichtel

Date: 2021-03-13 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] orathbone
Hi. Fascinating article. As for antecedents I noticed the similarity to the energy centres picture in Theosophia Practica by the 17th Century mystic Johann Georg Gichtel. It has the same offset centre at the waist (though on the bodies left - could this be mirrored?).
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=gichtel+theosophia+practica&safe=off&client=safari&hl=en-GB&prmd=insv&sxsrf=ALeKk03FwNUDM_nq6883efjGAUTHAowhoQ:1615672874589&source=lnms&tbm=isch&biw=414&bih=714#imgrc=FPM2MS_wovauxM

Re: Theosophia Practica by Johann Georg Gichtel

Date: 2021-03-14 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] orathbone
He claimed to have worked them out independently from contemplation and experience

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Date: 2021-03-13 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If you can do any of these stretches at all, you don't need much invigoration.

The Grey Badger, one hand on an often-aching lower back, all 8 decades showing.

Thank you!

Date: 2021-03-13 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMG -

Thank you for this! Very timely. I took a look at the exercises (etc.) that you referenced - "Vortex C" - the thyroid - was of special concern to me because of some health issues. Only 5 exercises makes it more do-able for me. Of greater interest is the link between physical and etheric health. I'm wondering now if doing these exercises will make my discursive meditation sessions "cleaner" (can't think of the right word).

Speaking of discursive meditation: 1) thank you for introducing this. I have found that it helps me get to sleep more easily, in addition to the other benefits. 2) Do you talk about discursive meditation in one of your newer books. (I may have asked before, if so, my apologies).

Taking care with the Five Rites

Date: 2021-03-14 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] moops25
Hi JMG,

Yes, I have a copy of The Eye of Revelation here and my partner, a Hatha Yoga practitioner for over 25 years took a look at these. With movements four and five especially, she said one shouldn't think they can just drop to the floor and bang these out, as you can injure yourself. Also, be careful with movement three with your lower back.

Just some things to be aware of, some basic stretches before you start can really help and yes, ease into these.

Some may find this handy, if only from the point of view of being careful at the start.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LEYIr4TJOm8

Also, Donald Michael Kraig references the Hindu Secrets Of Virility and Rejuvenation by Emile Raux from 1939 as another source for basically the same techniques suggesting it may be an earlier source ?

It may be another rabbit-hole for you to disappear down !

Cheers,
Steve
Edited Date: 2021-03-14 12:58 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hmm. I can feel (imagine?) them all except the one on the right side of the torso and the two in knees. What is the significance of that and what should I do about it (if anything)?

BTW, Twas Johnny Appleseed day March 11 (not his birthday, I don't think, but the day you suggested for planting). I wasn't in a position to plant an apple tree but I did think about the significance & give thanks! The trees are just starting to bud where I am right now.

Liver Placement

Date: 2021-03-14 05:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alexandermarcus
In your post above, you quote Kelder's work as saying:

"another [vortex] in the right side of the body opposite the liver"

This drew my attention, as the liver *is* on the right side of the body, so something would have to be on the *left* side of the body to be "opposite the liver."

I checked the pdf you linked to in a comment above, and it has the same line as:

"another [vortex] in the right side of the body above the waistline" (p. 13)

I'm not sure which version of the text you were quoting from, but there seems to be a fair amount of ambiguity in the placement of the center under question.

(edited to clear up some of my own ambiguity, go figure!)
Edited Date: 2021-03-14 05:42 am (UTC)

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Date: 2021-03-14 11:40 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is that right hand path or rite hand path JMG?

Joking aside, this book was one I discovered on my Mother's bookshelf back in the 80s with talk of grey hair turning black again being a particular memory. I only started doing the 5 rites, intermittently, 20 years ago or so, thinking they were as good a set of stretches as any and might have additional 'benefits'. There's something to them, for sure - just spinning around unleashes an inner child. :-)
Jay P

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Date: 2021-03-14 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] youngelephant
Is it fair game to take a cold shower immediately before performing the 5 Rites?

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Date: 2021-03-19 10:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] helloolleh
Lots in this post. Dense as a spoonful of white dwarf. Thanks again!

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Date: 2021-03-19 11:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] helloolleh
I have the notion that the vortex’s are not drawing in like magnetic centers, but are more like whirlpools in moving water. They keep their shape from more or less outside influences. From the movement and stresses of the “whole” me thinks.
From up close they would indeed feel and pull like centers of a vortex.
I’ve been familiar with the rite for some years now. Combining this with “The cosmic doctrine” and the metaphorical rings, gives a whole new insight for me.
Thanks again

Five rites and DOGD druidry

Date: 2021-03-25 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
John Michael,

Do you think these rites fit well with DOGD style druidry? Or are they mutually incompatible?

Re: Five rites and DOGD druidry

Date: 2021-03-26 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It may be fair, then, to note that he died of pancreatic cancer in his early 60s. You have noted that Tai chi and some forms of druidry are incompatible; that some forms of yoga and magic may be incompatible... is there a similar potential risk here?

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