Magic Monday
Oct. 20th, 2019 11:46 pm
It's getting on for midnight, so here we go with a new Magic Monday. The picture is of Apollonius of Tyana, one of the most famous occultists of the ancient Roman world, who was among other things one of the first people we know of who revived an extinct occult tradition. As a teenager he read about the Pythagorean Brotherhood, and decided that he wanted to be a member. The minor fact that the Brotherhood had been extinct for most of five centuries didn't slow him down at all; he found out everything that was known about them, and proceeded to put himself through the traditional course of training, including the five year vow of silence. Approach occultism with that kind of determination and I promise you that you'll get good results; he certainly did. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. Any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer, though I'm going to have somewhat limited email access tomorrow and it may be Tuesday or even Wednesday before I get to them all. If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here.
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Date: 2019-10-21 04:06 am (UTC)I started the process by looking at the possible ascendants. There's one ascendant that fits me quite well, and places the significator in an accurate spot: it has Uranus and Neptune conjunct the ascendant, Neptune in the 12th house and Uranus in the 1st; and Saturn in the 2nd. This fits me quite well: finances are important to me, but I've never been very bold with them; while I'm clearly eccentric, spirituality is important to me, even if somewhat hidden.
This also gives me a fifth house stellium (The Moon, Mercury, Venus and the Sun), which fits quite well as well; the areas ruled by the fifth house are very important to me, and my identity and emotions are strongly connected with them.
However, this chart has a sun-moon conjunction in Cancer, within less than one degree; anything which moves the moon out of that range moves either Uranus into the 12th or the sun into the 6th. Neither of these fit me at all. However, a conjunction between the sun and moon also fail to fit me: I can easily take my emotions as a study of thought: they are not central to my identity at all.
Additionally, I seem to fit a Gemini moon much more than a Cancer one; and yet by the time of this ascendant the moon is clearly in Cancer. I thus thought about looking at a chart for a day earlier, and found it fits me perfectly: it gives me a Moon-Venus conjunction, which seems to describe me to a T.
I'm a little hesitant though, because this means I was born at around 10:15 the night before the day on my birth certificate. When I looked up how often the time on a certificate is wrong, though, I found one article talking about it, which featured a woman sharing my birthday.
a) Am I right to think the article might be a synchronicity telling me I'm on the right track?
b) How can I go about checking the chart? Is it best to look at transits to the spot the moon would be in this case?
2) Tomorrow, I'm going to start to work my way through the SoP and meditation exercises you've posted, and learn divination. Would there be an issue if I posted weekly updates here for a few weeks so you can warn me if I'm making any beginner mistakes?
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Date: 2019-10-21 04:21 am (UTC)Do you think the moral panics around sex in the Victorian era, which were take to the most extreme in the US and UK, could be such a manifestation? It lead to a fairly large increase in secretive behaviour, and organized crime was tied into the prostitution business. The phenomena also looked like prior attempts to suppress a basic element of human existence, but taken further than any prior....
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Date: 2019-10-21 04:26 am (UTC)What do you think the main advantages/disadvantages are to pursuing magical and occult studies vs other spiritual disciplines? In other words, if there are a lot of roads to gwynfyd, what recommends one road over the other, in your opinion?
Some background on my question: I’ve been reading your blogs for several years, mostly for your political and philosophical content, but I’ve found these magic Monday sessions to make for fascinating reading. I’ve had very little spiritual practice in my life for the last few years (having three small children more or less eliminated my free time), but I’d like to reengage. I was reading some of your essays from the Well of Galabes this weekend, and the description of Eliphas Levi’s view of the astral light reminded me so very much of Gregory Palamas’ views on the uncreated light of God that I thought “well, they’ve clearly interacted with the same phenomenon, but I wonder what would make High Magic a better choice than Hesychasm if one is trying to develop spiritually?”
Thanks again!
Pathworking
Date: 2019-10-21 04:34 am (UTC)I've been meditating on the Tree of Life and am path working a bit now. I've done the 32nd path and am about to start on Yesod soon. I hope to use this as a way to gain guidance and knowledge from the beings there, particularly for information on astral travel and rituals for increasing motivation, etc. Any tips or suggestions, particularly about if it's generally safe to test out any ritual work received from inner-plane beings like that?
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Date: 2019-10-21 04:35 am (UTC)2) Sure, but the mistakes are part of the learning curve!
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Date: 2019-10-21 04:38 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2019-10-21 04:43 am (UTC)What I'd encourage you to do is read books from various paths that appeal to you, and read biographies of people who've committed themselves to those paths. Ask yourself: are these practices the sort of thing I want to spend my life doing? Is this person the kind of person I want to become? Combine that with prayer -- lots of prayer -- and you'll find the right path for you.
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Date: 2019-10-21 04:45 am (UTC)b) I very nearly died from pneumonia when I was about ten in 2005, so just prior to Pluto being downgraded; my progressed moon, ruler of the sixth house of my chart, was square Pluto at that point. Does that sound like a good indicator?
2) Well, still, I want to avoid making the really dumb ones! ;)
Re: Pathworking
Date: 2019-10-21 04:47 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2019-10-21 04:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2019-10-21 04:50 am (UTC)b) That's the sort of thing astrologers look for when rectifying a chart, so it's a very strong indicator that whatever chart you progressed and got that result is accurate.
2) If you follow the directions carefully, you won't. Still, by all means let me and the commentariat know how it goes.
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Date: 2019-10-21 04:51 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2019-10-21 04:57 am (UTC)2) Is it really that simple?
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Date: 2019-10-21 05:05 am (UTC)It's also worth noting my natal moon would be in Gemini in the fifth house, which had Gemini on the cusp, under this chart. So, I think this fits quite well.
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Date: 2019-10-21 05:21 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2019-10-21 05:27 am (UTC)Day and hour of Mars
Date: 2019-10-21 05:43 am (UTC)I am not and avoid using them for anything important, including communicating with family members who have a history of bad temper, or anything I'm concerned could turn into a struggle.
Mars seems to be the most dignified planet in my chart but I don't see Mars related things as my friend. Irritability is something I have to work hard to control and I have been actively doing so for a number of years.
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Date: 2019-10-21 05:54 am (UTC)In my progressed chart, Neptune (which, as it's conjunct my ascendant, I'm quite sensitive to) was in opposition to my progressed sun during this period. My sun ruled the 7th house in my progressed chart, and so of course this would show up there, particularly with Pisces being intercepted at the time. What's fascinating is how suddenly I saw things clearly, both that she was using me and I loved her; this happened when the 7th house of my progressed chart shifted from Leo to Virgo, and yanked the blinders the Neptune opposition my sun had placed.
This is also evidence for the day earlier; had I been born on the day I've always thought was my birthday, then the 7th house cusp would've moved to Virgo too soon.
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Date: 2019-10-21 07:29 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2019-10-21 07:53 am (UTC)1. I recently started reading Dion Fortune's novel The Sea Priestess. What a great book! Early on, her protagonist Wilfred writes: ...and it seemed to me that there were two worships, one of the sun, and one of the moon; and that my love of the moon and the sea was the older and was to the other as the other is to us. And I could believe that the druids, priests of the sun-cult, must have looked upon the strange sea-fires of a forgotten worship as we look upon the barrows and dolmens.
Is the lunar/sea magic described in the Sea Priestess similar to the Druid magic system in the DMH, given the importance of the lunar current in Druid magic of that system? I'm curious why she refers to Druidry as a sun-cult (and thus a solar-current based system).
2. I recently came across this quote by a scholar named Gregory Cajete which alludes to your posts made about tamanous on the other blog, and also neatly connects the 5 elements of the DMH: It is in the landscape that contains the memories, the bones of the ancestors, the earth, air, fire, water, and spirit from which a Native culture has come and to which it continually returns. It is the land that ultimately defines a Native people. I can't find the source. Have you come across this quote before?
Thanks as always!
Sphere of Protection questions
Date: 2019-10-21 07:54 am (UTC)Is it ok to use Awen in the final part if you are not invoking Celtic gods?
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Date: 2019-10-21 08:15 am (UTC)1. Does it sound like a good indicator?
2. It leads me to wonder if doing SOP by visualisation is actually more powerful than I expected. What's your view on that?
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Date: 2019-10-21 08:21 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2019-10-21 09:08 am (UTC)On the one hand they are both malefics, so might strengthen each other, but on the other hand I believe that Antares is the opposite of Mars, so I wonder if it weakens the effect of Mars.
Energy centers
Date: 2019-10-21 09:08 am (UTC)