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PapusIt's midnight, so here we go with a new Magic Monday. The picture is of Gerard Encausse aka Papus, one of the most influential French occultists of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and the author of numerous books. (One of his major works, Elementary Treatise of Occult Science, has just been published in a fine new English translation by my friend and sometime coauthor Mark Mikituk, and can be obtained here. For some reason the publisher slapped my name all over the publicity, even though all I wrote was the foreword.) 

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Thank you very much! It worked!

Date: 2019-01-28 05:17 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was the person asking advice about colour breathing and the non-sale of my house. You suggested an intention of having the resources to rejoin my family as that was my first priority. I have to tell you that in parallel, a third-party was mightily trying to engineer a reconciliation between me and my folks. It panned out around Christmas, continued through mid-January and, on Day 15 of my colour breathing, my parents (who I hadn't spoken to for almost two decades) lent me the money to relocate. Strange coincidences, huh?
Of course I still have the house, so while I am already planning my move, the question of how to manage the place from 6,000 miles away is still an issue. Compounding this is the fact that I am currently living in a foreign country and have no network of friends to draw upon for help. Could I start a new intention (still green colour breathing) that the house and I to go our separate ways? Can you see any dire consequences arising from that?
In summary: colour breathing works! and I need to thank you very much for your advice.

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Date: 2019-01-28 05:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Are there seasons to past life memories? I had my first one around the year 2010 concerning a life in the 1800's, the next I had a few years later and concerned the Middle Ages, in 2015 I had a dream that may have been a past life memory, and was certainly hyper realistic. Since then, nothing.

In 2010 was when I got into spirituality, and a lot of stuff happened quickly. Then I searched for awhile, now that I meditate, pray and do ritual I have many wonderful dreams and fantasies, but haven't had anymore past-life memories surface. Are there specific techniques I should employ to facilitate these memories, or are the practices I'm engaged with tend to be sufficient for past life recollection?

Aklo Script

Date: 2019-01-28 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mesosylvania
Quick Aklo update: haven't made as much progress as I would've hoped, but I did settle on the letterforms. And I've identified 5 Great Old Ones whose names are now 4 letters, according to this script: Azathoth, Tsathoggua, Yhoundeh, Nodens, and [The King in Yellow]. Here's an image (please excuse my penmanship, I'll plan on digitizing the letters at some point):

So, maybe an LBRP is possible now?

I'll continue working. My daily time with Tsathoggua is having some sorts of affects, and I get the feeling He is helping with this Aklo project, in addition to being a very calming, comforting presence.

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Date: 2019-01-28 05:34 pm (UTC)
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I can't see clearly the details of the "tha" character. It would be better to provide an image for it traced with a thinner pen or pencil.

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Drag the picture to another tab, and it'll scale.

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Energy exercises

Date: 2019-01-28 06:06 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Can you suggest any kind of energy work one can do safely while waiting for the bus, at the doctor's office, or during other downtime? Golden Dawn practices are the ones I'm familiar with, but you've advised against circulating the light at such times, so I don't. I recall that in the past you've suggested some practice that protects oneself and sends blessings to others, but I don't recollect what it was. Something to do with the aura, perhaps?

Also, what has been said here about color breathing sounds interesting. I've started checking online sources, but is there any source of information on the topic that you particularly recommend?

BTW, I quite enjoy the photos and thumbnail bios you've posted about prominent occult figures. It's fascinating stuff.


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Discursive meditation

Date: 2019-01-28 06:20 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi. Thank you for doing Magic Monday! I have a question on discursive meditation as described in The Druidry Handbook. The examples given for meditation seem to be about aspects of myth (including the holidays), as in “Myths are things that never happened, but always are.”. What about discursive meditation on material facts? Is discursive meditation as a method useful for material facts or should there preferably be some ambiguity to use it fully? Also, about the screen glamour, this may be a bit late but I tried needles on the router and the television to break up glamour. It definitively worked on the television. (Two weeks in) Not so much on the other screens. However, hardware suddenly needed to be upgraded and some of the anti-glamour devices may have been lost in the process. Will try once again. Are there any other known methods regarding glamour? In the book Monsters, you mention St John's worth regarding Faye, and somewhere else about curses, that every curse can break if the assumption it rests on can be identified. (?) Glamour and cursing seem not too far away of each other, if I understand correctly? Best whishes, Svea

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Date: 2019-01-28 05:06 pm (UTC)
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Also, sorry about the formatting of the text above. Thought I had put some blanks, but they seem to have disappeared. (Svea)

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Many worlds theory

Date: 2019-01-28 06:32 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Would you suppose there's any metaphysical validity to the "many worlds" theory, e.g., there's a reality in which the South won the Civil War, etc.? I don't know enough about quantum mechanics to venture an opinion, but even if I did, I think I'd rely on my reflective intuition to give me an answer, and as of now my intuition tells me no, there is no parallel reality in which the South won the Civil War or that the nazis triumphed or that your hot chocolate-quaffing shoggoths really exist.

Still, the many-worlds theory does kind of resonate with the idea that within God there is infinite potentiality waiting to be actualized, and that Plato said something to the effect of "God has a moral obligation to actualize all potentiality". The many-worlds theory would certainly seem to fit that bill well enough. But I'm thinking that we and all self-aware creatures serve in the actualization of infinite potentiality by acts of the imagination. No, those hot chocolate fans, the shoggoths do not exist in a material, parallel earth, but - by virtue of your imagination, and Mr. Lovecraft's, they do exist in the upper planes as archetypes - and are becoming more actualized by the day, I would think - and so in this manner, infinite potentially really is being actualized by the imaginative acts of countless creatures who themselves are actualizations of imaginative acts.

Have to say, I would have loved to know how Dion Fortune would have interpreted the many-worlds concept.

Thanks - Will M

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Date: 2019-01-28 06:36 am (UTC)
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1) When using transits for astrological timing, would you want to use transits against your natal chart (if you had it), or would you want to use what is actually occurring in the sky? E.g. Sun trine Natal Jupiter or Sun trine Jupiter? Could either option be used toward different ends (microcosm vs macrocosm)?

2) If one were henotheistic, working pretty much exclusively with one deity, but not discounting others, could one apply study of the qabalah with that one deity, trying to explore epithets of that deity as they apply to the sefirot? That appears to me to be the case with the God of Israel, aside from the fact that he seems like an amalgamation of various deities. If it's possible, that seems to me like it would be higher-level work for someone who's already worked through one qabalistic system.

3) Do you think it is possible for deities to be overshadowed by larger, more impersonal forces? I had a quick exchange with someone a few months ago on a blog post they made about a star goddess - I was reminded of a book I had been (and am still) reading called Buddhist Goddesses of India, where a chapter covers a class of twilight/night sky goddesses in a Buddhist text called The Flower Ornament Sutra. One such goddess says that she had ascended to that position with the help of other night sky goddesses over countless lifetimes - Hekate crossed my mind, because they tend to wear scarlet clothing, they're liberators/saviors, etc. It seems like "Night Sky" is a more impersonal concept that lends power and meaning to various goddesses across different cultures.



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Which magic system

Date: 2019-01-28 07:06 am (UTC)
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How does one choose which system of magic to study?

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Date: 2019-01-28 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bendithfawr
Ok, here's a weird one. Just for context: I ran across the "Archdruid Report" for the first time last year, read the whole thing back-to-back, a lot of your other books as well and ended up dabbling in the occult a bit as a result. However, I haven't gotten much beyond the LRP and some meditation once in while (in my defence, we have 3 small children).

Now, a while ago I was looking out the kitchen window and was struck by the realization that there were five (otherwise differing) _white_ cars standing next to each other outside. The pure randomness of it was one thing but I was surprised at how forceful the realization was, like someone else was jabbing my nose at it.

Then, a few days later, I was on the balcony, glanced into the street around the corner and there were again five (different) white cars parked in a row.

It hasn't let me go since and I'm not sure why. I'm not usually one to pay much attention to parked cars. The forcefulness of the realization the first time it happened still resonates.

Do you have any ideas on how to figure out if there's a meaning there? If there is even anything to make of, my old self would have dismissed it as entirely random - my current self is not so sure.

Voor and stage presence/charisma

Date: 2019-01-28 10:09 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was watching some performances by Freddie Mercury after reading the passage in WoH: Innsmouth about Nyarlathotep opening up the third eye in musicians.

It also reminded me of something you said before about preachers receiving a great deal of energy from their congregrations and often not having an outlet to direct it towards.

It seems like a lot of performers or orators just instinctually have a talent for working the crowd without any formal training, while others never manage to do the same despite a lot of training in public speaking, etc.

Do you know of any resources on developing this ability from an energetic dimension?

One error means that all is suspect

Date: 2019-01-28 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Hi John Michael,

Thanks for hosting this weekly forum. :-)

Hey, over the years I've came across people who claim that one error or uncertainty, no matter how minor, means (for them) that the rest of the body of work is suspect. I realise that this is a form of social game and basically ignore it, but I was curious as to whether it has seen any light of day (or history of misuse) in the occult scene?

As a disclaimer, I'm reasonably comfortable with uncertainties as I long ago accepted that my worldview can only ever take in so much - and that isn't that expansive a view!



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Date: 2019-01-28 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi Chris,

It seems to me that when people dismiss an entire body of work over one item that seems wrong or unclear to them, they're looking for a reason to discredit the thing. I think it allows them to file it away under "stuff I don't believe or don't want to think about" so they can ignore it and feel justified in their world view. I'm sure it's not that way in every case, but it seems to mostly be that way in my experience.

A Druid in Training

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Date: 2019-01-28 10:24 am (UTC)
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Not a question, but a progress report re: regular practice of Heathen LBRP and MP: my arachnophobia is fading. I can coexist with spiders in the same room without fleeing or killing the spider.

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Visitation or Exhaustion?

Date: 2019-01-28 10:58 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Here comes a magic-medical question... In the previous 7 years, I have undergone and completed several magical training courses, including your LRM and Druid Magic, and I‘m still very much at it. At some point, however, I have developed fits of insomnia (after having slept perfectly all my life) that can‘t be reduced to my daily life (which didn‘t change outwardly) nor to an ordinary medical condition (I‘ve checked).

The symptoms, which occur nearly always after emotionally charged encounters, usually (but not always) with women (I‘m a straight and rather conventionally married male, 36, magnetic but introverted), consist of restlessness, a sudden wakefulness that begins around midnight, and—most importantly—cold arms; and this coldness is not merely thermal in nature: It doesn‘t yield to a few dozen knuckle push-ups, for instance. The latter symptom is so essential that it serves me as a handle for insomnia in my journal (January 23: Usual practice; night, cold arms).

So—is this a visitation, a parasite, an attack, emotional exhaustion, or what? Naturally, I attempted purifying baths, banishing, and the cutting of cords (in any combination), but to no avail. Etheric shielding seems to alleviate the situation somewhat, but on most occasions I‘m reduced to the mundan medication of a large bowl of cereals, a detective story, and waiting for an hour or three.

Any insights are highly appreciated!


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Date: 2019-01-28 05:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] packshaud
I will provide a bit of personal experience.

I sleep with the window in my sleeping room open. I too often wake up in the middle of the night, apparently for no reason, many times from an intense dream. And when I look through the window, in the top left corner, there is an astrological planet there. More often it is Jupiter, or Mars, some times the Moon. Many times there is a planet in transit (at the highest point of the sky) at the moment.

I suggest you to try to gather information on the position of the planets if you suddenly wake up during the night; like me, you might be sensitive to planet energies.

No amount of other people telling me this would make me believe it during my angry atheist years; now I just take it as a fact of life--it would be absurd to ignore hard evidence like this.


Date: 2019-01-28 11:21 am (UTC)
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What would be the role of synchronicity in magic?



Date: 2019-01-28 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dear Archdruid,
I felt the need to exclude may half sister of my life more than fifteen years ago.
Some signs and restriction I have been filling in my life lead me to cast a chart to know if she had made something to impede my life in some respects and here is the chart:
I- Rubeus
II- Albus
III- Rubeus
IV- Fortuna minor
V- Tristitia
VI- Puer
VII- Rubeus
VIII- Populus
IX- Conjuctio
X- Laeticia
XI- Amissio
XII- Rubeus
RW cauda draconis
LW Cauda Draconis
Judge Populos
There is a perfection between the I and the XII house, but the judge isn’t conclusive. Would you be so kind as to give me your opinion? Should I take some banishing baths or something?

Thank you for magic Monday!

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Date: 2019-01-28 12:43 pm (UTC)
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Let's say that a few mages are at magical war with each other. The first has mastered Hoodoo and natural magic techniques as thoroughly as possible, with some basic lunar and solar astrology as well.

The second mage has mastered _The Picatrix_ and astrological talismanic magic in general, along with having an understanding of the requisite natural magic and ritual needed in the creation of talismans.

The third mage has mastered ceremonial magic, and has the requisite knowledge of natural magic and astrology for effective ceremonial work.

So let's say that these three mages have three different agendas that are all at loggerheads. All of the mages in this thought experiment are equally well versed in their respective specialities. They even go to conventions, have met each other and find interesting things to talk about with mutual respect. If they all were pursuing workings that were contra each other I wonder which technique would likely win; if ceremonial magic reliably trumps a really powerful, well-elected astrological talisman or if the petition papers, candles, herbs, bottle spells and mojo bags of the rootworker could reasonably prove more effective than the others.

I often think of magical energies as closely akin to electricity and different techniques to various voltages, with electricities power not just to work but also to magnetize. in this metaphor, which technique carries the most voltage? In a real life situation of metapolitics, all else being equal, is voltage what carries the day?

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Date: 2019-01-28 05:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] packshaud
Much of the results will depend on what is being attacked. There is not a magic system which is "more powerful". The potency of the results also will come from how much blowback (the "Raspberry Jam Principle") the attacker is willing to take.

And in magic wars to defeat other people there are no winners, everyone involved loses. It would be better for all parts to avoid it.

In a real life situation, I suggest to avoid offensive magic entirely. Like with cars, use defensive driving.

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Alt right

Date: 2019-01-28 01:03 pm (UTC)
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FYI, Ed Chang, from one of the top alt right podcasts,had a discussion about you. @56:00. Dashui

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Date: 2019-01-28 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was wondering if you could clarify a bit on something I picked up scanning a previous Magic Monday thread. In response to someone addressing deities by titles instead of names, you replied, “That said, there's a precedent for what you're suggesting. Pietro d'Abano says that you should invoke spirits by their titles and roles instead of their names, since the names change over time, and until you've made contact with your guardian angel and received from him the material to put into your personal Book of Spirits, you don't know the right names to use. So it may be worth trying out.”

This ended up being a bit of a key for me somehow, as even as I’ve gotten into Druidry I’ve been a little resistant to the “personal connection with deities”. Although I’ve always had a suspicion there are spirits all around us and abiding in everything, the “Dieties” as named in various mythologies - Artemis, Isis, Freya, etc. - always seemed like characters in stories to me and not “real”. What struck me, though, in dealing with the title and not the name, was a sudden removal of what I guess I’d describe as “other people’s interpretations” of the Diety — like the Diana I read about in my Latin textbook was an interpretation made for that textbook and not necessarily the goddess herself, and if I - I personally, just myself outside of everything else I ever read or saw — reached out to The Goddess of the Moon and the Hunt as I *felt* her — then maybe I would come to know her more authentically.

It happened that last week my eldest cat fell very ill with a cat flu, wouldn’t eat and hardly moved. He got some shots at the vet, but I took to just holding my hands over his chest especially after doing the LRP from the Celtic Golden Dawn (I do not feel I know those deities at all but I vibrate their names the best I can) and then saying a kind of prayer for Mother Bastet, mother of all cats, to comfort and heal him. Then I found I started talking to her myself before I went to sleep at night, as I’ve got a lot of nighttime anxiety. And suddenly I began to wonder if this is what establishing a relationship with a deity is like.

Also, after a harrowing car accident this summer, I am convinced of my guardian angel’s presence in my life. Are there any ways of forging a closer connection there? I feel like everything comes down to meditation...

I guess I can only relate the thoughts and experiences and not even a clear question! But what you said last week was very much a key somehow. My cat is recovering, thankfully, and there have been so many other things falling into place these past months I can’t deny something is going on. So I just appreciate MM here and any thoughts or clarity you might be able to provide.

Btw, as a newbie here, what does “TSW” mean?

Thanks always!


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Date: 2019-01-28 06:20 pm (UTC)
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TSW is this stuff works.

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Date: 2019-01-28 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

First, thank you for the FAQ section.

Second, if I could ask your indulgence, I'd like to ask about my rather unfortunate regress as illustrated in my mage/sage post in the residual conversation stream on the other blog. (I've copied it below for reference, along with Varun's response, and my second response to his response.)

So, question time:

Am I as all wet as I think I was on this? Is the mage-path (as I termed it) as illusory as I think it is?

Or is there, as Varun commented, as triad that is being missed? Is there a "third Tree," as I mused in my response to him?

Much obliged, as always.

David BTL


First post

Something else that comes to my mind — triggered partly by my Magic Monday question and ensuing discussion, and partly by my lament just now — is that I struggle with this dichotomy I’ve taken to calling ‘the mage & the sage’.

The mage, at least as I’ve always pictured the magus, is one who cultivates skills, develops powers, attains knowledge, and by means of all of these imposes his/her will upon the cosmos, shaping it accordingly and transcending the limits which bind others. The aim here is one of ability, power, and strength.

The sage, on the other had, seeks wisdom, cultivates understanding, accepts the limits imposed upon him or her by existence, and by means of these attains balance with the cosmos, flowing along with it. The aim here is one of peace, insight, and acceptance.

Yang, Yin. Active, Passive. Tree of Knowledge, Tree of Life. Qliphoth, Sephiroth.

I desire (‘crave’ might be a better word) the first, but know that the second is the better path. The battle within waxes and wanes and waxes again. How to resolve this?


That’s a binary. How did the sage become a sage?

My second reply:

Re the third Tree

Hit upon a thought just now. Considering the nature of the trinaries we know from both kabala and druidry (as limited as my knowledge is), parallel the characteristics I mentioned with the triad of elements. Active, gwyar. Passive, calas. What is left? Nwyfre. That is, consciousness. Is there a path of consciousness/awareness that balances the mage on the one hand and the sage on the other?

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LRM and "other gods"

Date: 2019-01-28 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kataskion
Last week, you said "The god of Israel is a jealous god; if you work with him, you can't work with other gods. Meditating on his names while invoking Greek deities is not a way to get good results."

My partner and I recently started working our way through Learning Ritual Magic. While we're doing the LRM work, we're doing it just as given in the book, but we both have our own practices that we do as well on our own time - he has a morning yoga practice that involves saying mantras, and I have my own homegrown polytheist/animist practice going on, which on a practical level mostly involves daily offerings to local spirits.

Is there any potential interference with maintaining these while doing the LRM work? We are both very interested in learning the Hebrew system in full, with the archangels and the names of God and all that. Would it be better to put these "other gods" on hold for a while as we do this work, or is it enough to keep things compartmentalized? I don't really want to give up my daily offerings but I wonder if there is a way to integrate them into the LRM work. Or if it's even an issue I need to think about.


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Dolmen Arch Tradition

Date: 2019-01-28 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] alexandermarcus
I have five-ish questions regarding the tradition that includes the Dolmen Arch, Druid Magic Handbook, Druidry Handbook, and Gnostic Celtic Church:

First, what is the name of said tradition? I've been calling it the "Dolmen Arch Tradition," but I'm wondering if it has another name.

Second, I'd like to learn as much as I can about the tradition's history. I'm aware of the AODA's history page on their website, and of the introduction in the GCC and DA correspondence course, but am looking for more.

Third, is The Way of the Cauldrons part of the same tradition, and are there any other so far unreleaed parts of the tradition that you know of?

Fourth, if I do the DH, DMH, or GCC after having completed the DA, is there more leeway in the "exactly as presented" rule? I'm thinking here of keeping within the tradition, say by adding the memory exercises from the DA into the DMH course, or doing the DMH and GCC concurrently.

Fifth, If I take up the DMH after finishing the DA, should I discontinue my practice of the Inner Grail and start from scratch as per the DMH, or should I continue the full Sphere of Protection with Inner Grail while progressively adding the other elements of the DMH?

I suppose questions 4 and 5 are also asking if there are general guidelines for approaching parts of a tradition after having completed other parts.

I feel very at home in this tradition, and am very grateful to you for reconstructing it and revitalizing it. Thank you.

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Date: 2019-01-28 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Once again, thank you for doing this! I have only just caught up on the past couple of MMs, but here are a few things I've been wondering about -

1) You mentioned that certain kinds of magic shouldn't be done around children. Does that also apply to children living in the same building that you don't otherwise have contact with? The infant in question lives in a different apartment and never comes into mine and we're not related. But there's only a wall between it and me. (And if it can affect the child, what's the relevant factor? Physical proximity? Or do spiritual entities have a concept of what a "house" is and treat the people living therein as a group?)

2) How does translation of a ritual text affect whether the egregor reacts to it? If it still "understands", can a translation be so crap that the egregor doesn't feel addressed by the ritual anymore?

3) I noticed that the Heathen LRofP names the sword "Sumarbrandr", which seems to be from a Magnus Chase novel? Are there any sources on Freyr's sword being named this (I looked but found none), or did you simply find it fitting even though the name is a recent invention?

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Date: 2019-01-28 05:29 pm (UTC)
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(from Myriam)

I'm wondering if you have ever stepped into the consciousness of your divination reading? For the sake of argument, let's assume that a reading has an energy, which it seems to have since it is a message directed to you, and if so, then is it an entity? Whether that entity is greater than the message yet still part of it, like words for humans, or the reading is an entity in itself, which seems odd, assume that it's possible for one to be able to put oneself in it's shoes, so to speak. Have you ever done that?

I get that feeling sometimes, fleetingly, as if I became for a small second, the consciousness that is advising the part of me that is the querent. When I want to cuff myself upside the head, sort of. Weird.

Performing ritual magic routine out of home

Date: 2019-01-28 05:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] packshaud
I want to ask, this Monday, about those times when you can't do the practice at home and you don't have your equipment available. Here are the questions:

1. If I don't have, say, the altar, I can perform the ritual in imagination. But if I have the space, I can perform the movements, as well as the vibrations. Is this proper?

2. It is one thing to perform the inner ritual during use of public transport, but suppose I'm alone at the work building, or at a dorm room during a visit. I have free time, but obviously no permission to perform ritual magic there (because I didn't ask for it). Would this be inadequate? Would it be better to skip the practice in that day?

3. Not a question, but a suggestion for the FAQ. You told us you had problems because you started practice in your teen years. A proper age for start of practice could be included somewhere in the FAQ.

Re: Performing ritual magic routine out of home

Date: 2019-01-28 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] robertmathiesen
For whatever it may be worth, I was given my first simple lessons in magic by my mother when I was about 7 years old. This was the form of magic that developed in the New Thought movement, essentially "mental magic" (as it is often called). No spirits or any other sort of beings were involved in this sort of magic, just methods for shaping your own self and your own life to suit your needs as you grew up.

My family was very wary, as am I, of having anything to do with Deities, spirits, fairies, or any sort of other-than-human persons. You could start a child on magic -- "mental magic," of course -- at a very young age, but religion was a dangerous thing to expose a child to. This wasn't because religion was false; it was because Gods have Their Own agendas and are prone to use people as pawns once They notice them. If you practice a religion, its Gods will eventually notice you. If you're a child when you start practicing a religion, you won't have any defenses against its Gods/
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