Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 225

[ecosophia]

We are now into the fifth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary all these years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health remain anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; new revelations are leaking out about just how bad the Covid vaccines are for human health; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

7. Please don't post LLM ("AI") generated text. This is a place for human beings to talk to other human beings, not for the regurgitation of machine-generated text. Also, please don't discuss large language models (the technology popularly and inaccurately called "artificial intelligence" these days) except as they bear directly on the Covid phenomenon. Here again, my finger is hovering over the delete button. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.  

Comments

Franklin

[ecosophia]

I should probably make a comment this time on the meme. Franklin the Turtle is a popular Canadian children's book franchise. For some reason somebody on the rightward end of the internet made a faux-Franklin cover like this one about some populist hot button or other. It probably would have gone unnoticed except that Canadian liberals went berserk, bellowing in rage about the profanation of a Canadian icon, etc. Of course that instantly invoked the Streisand Effect and sent scores of young men sprinting to the computer terminals in their mothers' basements to generate more of them. This is one of the resulting torrent. Given the ongoing misbehavior of the Canadian government, I thought it was apropos...

Re: Franklin

[(Anonymous)]

yes indeed it is all over the net now lol

i just didnt realize it was canadian.

not surprised...

Get the jab and stop the invasion?

[(Anonymous)]

You know, I'm beginning to think that what went and continues on with the covid - 'you must do this or everyone will die', the signs of cognitive decline (cognitive collapse?), the existential crisis of the west triggered by creating an existential crisis for the Russians, the widening political fault-lines that look increasingly like chasms, climate instability, the descent into the barbarism of abstraction etc etc are actually just the visible forms of a deeper pattern playing out.

The western response to covid (and globally in effect) threw out a couple of hundred years of empirical knowledge for a bunch of stuff effectively pulled out of the collective butthole.

I saw a headline referring to 'super-flu' in UK:
Schools plunged into lockdown as ‘super-flu’ sweeps nation
Experts described a “tidal wave” of flu descending on the health service in the run-up to Christmas, with an average of 1,717 patients being admitted to hospital every day during the last week of November.

More fear and confusion like a flurry of snow for Christmas?

Not particularly a topic for the covid thread but from one perspective it could be non-linear cascade of increasing chaos as humans disconnect from reality and experience the world through devices and LLMs (says he posting to an internet thread!) but I just wanted to say I've got a nagging feeling that all the individual threads lead back to a fundamental shift or alignment of forces that I cannot yet put my finger on, and wanted to ask how others are feeling just now?

I've got the words of Marcus Aurelius re 'avoiding the ranks of the insane' reverberating with increasing frequency and amplitude - at this stage I'm not sure I'd be surprised if the next announcement is that the likes of Fauci, Birx, Gates, Soros etc are identified as aliens and the next round of injections is essential to avoid invasion of the body snatchers.

Re: Get the jab and stop the invasion?

[(Anonymous)]

You are most certainly not alone. “Collective butthole” is brilliant! The nonsense du jour is indeed poo yet so many of us treat it like it’s fresh and enticing. A lockdown for the flu? Perhaps when hay fever season rolls around, we can expect another lockdown for that as well.

Perhaps people comply so willingly because the level of fear generally is so high. It may be a bit like coastal animals instinctively heading for higher ground ahead of a tsunami. The problem here is that lockdowns are illusory safety at best.

Like you, I wonder what higher powers are at work. The “why” seems like it’s the end of the line for the West. We enjoyed a nice meal, and have finally been presented with the bill. Time to pay up and make room for the next party of diners.

Won't somebody please think of the children

[(Anonymous)]

Dr Jamie Lopez Bernal, Consultant Epidemiologist at UKHSA said: "Nobody wants anyone in their family, especially young children, to spend Christmas in hospital.

"The best defence against this is a vaccine, but time is running out as it can take up to two weeks from vaccination for your body to build maximum protection.

"So don’t delay any longer, if anyone in your family is eligible, book that appointment today or take your child to the local community clinic."

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/schools-lockdown-as-super-flu-sweeps-nation-5HjdP7C_2/

Re: Won't somebody please think of the children

[(Anonymous)]

The benevolent UK NHS (or is it the Health Security Agency?) has produced an ad which I've been served with twice, regarding the winter flu menace.

In it, a group of people crowded into an elevator is joined by a knight in shining armour, who represents vaccination against flu.

One person in the elevator sneezes, presumably un-vaxxed, and smiles sheepishly.

Only the flu is mentioned, not the COVID vax, to my surprise.

But what intrigued me the first time I saw it was the badge on the knight's chest: I made a note to pause it the next time and see what it was. I was half-expecting a syringe, or 'Sir Vax'.

How about this? The badge reveals itself as a blue brain, and the writing is 'Neurological'!

Any guesses as to why? What presumably subliminal message is being conveyed in this hard to see badge?

HEP B Vax - some history

[scotlyn]

Ok, so I just spied this comment close to the end of last week's thread and want to add to it, just a bit.

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/352244.html?thread=58514164#cmt58514164

which further links to an X post by Dr Malone

https://xcancel.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1998042483297841352

Which gives a screenshot of a New York Times article, by Gina Kolata, dated March 1, 1991, entitled: "U.S. Panel Urges That All Children be Vaccinated for Hepatitis B."

Dr Malone was making the point that this article pushed the idea of universal vaccination of children due to adult non-compliance. The article says: "surveys of health-care workers showed that they underestimated their chances of getting hepatits and rationalized not being vaccinated by saying that the vaccine itself might be more risky than the chance they would get the disease."

Translation: Health care workers - who work at the frontlines, and have sufficient in person experience contrary to the narrative are tending to "underestimate" their risks from disease and "overestimate" their risks from the vaccine. Is there something historical, something that we can look into that might explain this silent, unexplained, but apparently rather stubborn and intractable resistance to Hep B shots on the part of healthcare workers? What might they have seen, but decided against speaking up against, while allowing what they saw to inform their own decisions?

Well, I have a theory, and it neatly segues into this other paragraph from Gina Kolata's article:

"A vaccine for hepatitis B was licensed a decade ago, but it has found little use, even among health workers, drug users, the sexually promiscuous and others at high risk of developing the disease. Since most Americans who get hepatitis B are infected as teenagers or adults, the benefits of a hepatitis program will not be apparent for about 20 years."

Well, the benefits of the programme remain unreckoned, but what if the risks became apparent early on?

There is a very interesting timeline contained within that paragraph, because what was happening a decade earlier, was what we now know as the outbreak of HIV/AIDS in the same "at risk" population as the one given above - "health workers, drug users, the sexually promiscuous" (but ESPECIALLY the sexually promiscuous)... it was even, initially, called "the gay disease"... and it became a time of high, and highly stoked fear.

But what happened just prior to reports of this strange "wasting" syndrome that was described in case studies in the early 1980's, caused panic in affected circles, as gay men began to sicken and die, and characterised by press release in 1984 as "solved" - a disease syndrome (AIDS) resulting from infection with a virus (HIV)?

Well, in 1979 JAMA described trials of a new Hepatits B vaccine, the trial subjects specifically to be drawn from "high risk" groups, including homosexual men (easy to recruit through tightly knit community organisations) and drug users (much more difficult to recruit given loose, and criminalised, connections between users and other institutions). I will not drown anyone here with journal study reports, but there is a lot there. I will just link to this one abstract, which places this trial, to be conducted among gay men across a number of American cities at a "smoking gun" place in the "AIDS" timeline - ie - just prior to the mysterious outbreak of the "gay disease" which was later named "AIDS". https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/363787

It may be that no official narrative will ever be other than "baffled" at the coincidence, however, I suspect that, just as we saw during Covid, health care workers may have witnessed far more of what resulted "in practice" than they were willing to say, or put on record, while allowing it to shape their personal decisions, all the same.

Re: HEP B Vax - some history

[jdecandia]

I am a frontline healthcare, worker and the more that I read about the whole AIDS narrative, the more it seems to parallel almost one-to-one what happened during the covid lockdowns.

You have done some excellent research here and I am going to mull over what you have collected

[(Anonymous)]

NDAA requires Trump spy agencies to declassify intel on COVID-19 origins and Chinese obstruction

The multi-hundred-billion dollar defense bill which funds the U.S. military is now written to prod the U.S. intelligence community into sharing what it knows about COVID-19's likely emergence from a Chinese government lab in Wuhan, once called a conspiracy theory by politicians and legacy media.

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/ndaa-calls-trump-spy-agencies-declassify-intel-covid-19-origins-and-chinese

well this sounds interesting.
i wonder if it really will be.

[(Anonymous)]

U.S. Supreme Court Smacks Down Lower Court in Major Win for Amish Families Fighting New York’s Draconian School Vaccine Mandates

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/12/u-s-supreme-court-smacks-down-lower-court/

yay for the amish!

[(Anonymous)]

Excellent news! Thanks for sharing!

Ron M

Vaccines as Symbols for Health

[(Anonymous)]

I think I've figured something important out about why things went down the road they did, but it requires a bit of a digression. In the mass mind, there are certain things which have become such potent symbols that few people can think clearly about them; cars spring to mind as one of the most significant. Cars represent freedom, and most people never get past that; even many who do never get around to thinking of cars as a tool, useful in some contexts and a bad idea in others. To lose a car is to lose independence; it does not matter that for millions the car is the most powerful factor pulling into dependence: a job for the car payment, space to park the car ruling out a lot of options, gas for the car requiring foreign policy be focused on keeping oil prices low, etc, etc.

I recently watched an argument unfold between two family members over whether "electric cars" are really cars; and the entire thing reminded me of the debates over whether or not the mRNA vaccines are really vaccines or not. The stakes are high in the case of cars: if electric cars are cars, then they promise freedom; if not, then they promise to destroy it. In exactly the same way, a lot of people were determined to mark the mRNA vaccines as not really vaccines, while the proponents were determined to argue they are, because until the disaster unfolded, vaccines were unquestionably good in the mass mind.

If vaccines are a symbol, then it has to be of health, and this is a very dangerous road to go down. If a vaccine is making people sick, then what is the solution? The only one that the proponents of vaccination will be able to think of, I suspect, is more vaccines. Thus the rapidly expanding vaccine schedule, the increasingly dodgy products, and the rest, is the direct consequence of the increasing rates of chronic illnesses. Of course, to the extent that vaccines cause any of these problems, it is a vicious circle.....

Re: Vaccines as Symbols for Health

[charlieobert]

I think you're on to something important.

I think the vaccines are indeed a symbol - not of health, but of protection against a deadly threat, and an antidote to anxiety and fear. They don't work very well even against the anxiety, which is why they need to be constantly repeated and boosted. A vaccine is a kind of anti-anxiety med.

Being told the vaccines don't work is being left naked and defenseless in a violent gun battle. Being told they cause harm means they've been betrayed by their defenders.

Admitting that means feeling and coming to terms with that fear and anxiety, with the shame and confusion of being fooled and betrayed mixed in with it. That is one ugly mess of emotion to admit and work through. It's no wonder so many people will fight tooth and nail to avoid and evade having to face that.

[(Anonymous)]

NIH Contractor Who Admitted to Ripping Down and Trashing Federal Portraits of Trump, Vance, Has Been Fired

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/12/nih-contractor-who-admitted-ripping-down-trashing-federal-2/

its crazy that some ppl will do this sort of thing at all.

The Medical Industrial Complex and Vit D

[stubborn_ass]

John Campbell made a new video that popped up on my feed yesterday, and somehow I felt 'pushed' to click on it. 99% of the time I would ignore his videos as personally, I feel that he is usually still about 2 years behind our collective knowledge here. Anyways, it was quite a whopper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtoxkK7MeKc

A major study published in 2014 had found that there had been a significant mistake made in the basic calculation of the required dosing for supplementary Vit D. The official recommendation is 600 IU in the US, and 400 IU in the UK. It's relatively easy to track Vit D supplementation and the impact on Vit D levels in the blood (ideally >50nl/mg) to have decent immunity.

Somehow they really messed up that basic extrapolation... as the actual required supplementation is 8,895 IU daily. Yup, they knew they'd been putting our erroneous recommendations since 2014, yet the medical industrial complex simply buried the paper and continued to keep people in ill health... That is not a typo... 8895 actually needed vs the 400 recommended in the UK. Something that costs 10 to 20 cents a day.

Vit D is a critical hormone used by the body.. not just for basic immunity, but also bone strength and a variety of other bodily functions. So it does get used up, based on one's needs and exposure to pathogens.

Recapping from my own personal experience, my mother who was twice jabbed and had 2 cancer episodes thereafter - needed 30K supplementation (with some Vit K2) daily.... and the cancers haven't recurred. When I broke my right foot around mid-year, I went up to 100K daily at one point, but my body told me it was overkill and I lowered it to 80K and that helped to heal the foot within 2 months rather than the 6+ typically needed. I also had a helpful suggestion from a poster here to take comfrey tincture orally, instead of just applying the comfrey paste on the foot. I believed that helped to speed things up tremendously too.

Re: The Medical Industrial Complex and Vit D

[stubborn_ass]

Additional recap - very early during the coof era as I was researching remedies, I found a study done a couple decades back. Very sizeable cohort of terminally ill cancer patients who had tried chemo were given 50K IU of Vit D intravenously (that ensures full absorption, vs the oral route where likely only half is absorbed through the gut). More than 80% of those cancer patients recovered. Yes, the medical industrial complex buried/sat on that nugget and continued to push the much more lucrative chemo / hospital visits and operations instead. That is the actual history.

Another nugget that was published this year... showed that our telomeres shortened at 1/4 of the usual rate under the effects of high D supplementation. Aka aging occurs at 1/4 the usual rate.. or lifespan increases 4X. Our normal diet only provides 200-300 IU daily... I guessing the energy put out by the sun has changed compared to ancient times (folks in the old testament lived to really ripe old age, same as in the ancient chinese texts)... that probably in turn lowered the Vit D provided by the food we eat. But I also feel that the sun energy is in the process of changing again.... might take more than our normal lifetime to fully play out. In the meantime, easy and cheap to take high D orally.

[(Anonymous)]

this is a very good interview with tucker and john leake, who wrote a book with Dr McCullough.
they get into the whole vaxx thing, with philosophy and religion, history and science.
about 2 hours.

John Leake: The Demonic Rituals to Replicate God and Mankind’s New Religion of Science

https://rumble.com/v72rj60-john-leake-the-demonic-rituals-to-replicate-god-and-mankinds-new-religion-o.html

[the_arcane_archivist]

Thanks for this!

[(Anonymous)]

Geert has some very brutal critics here, but he seems to have a reasonable explanation for why his predictions of a mass die-off scenario were postponed by developments that he failed to anticipate. I'm not scientifically literate enough to pick it all apart, but it does remind me of the peak oil saga when fracking pushed the timeline back by a decade. For a while it became a very unpopular topic, but now that we're about to invade Venezuela the conversations have started up again.

https://open.substack.com/pub/voiceforscienceandsolidarity/p/predictions-on-the-evolution-of-the

[ecosophia]

If his predicted tsunamic of death actually happens, then he'll be vindicated. If it doesn't happen, I wonder if he'll ever admit he was wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

Pediatricians reject CDC advisers’ guidance, plan to continue vaccinating all newborns against hepatitis B

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/childhood-vaccines/pediatricians-reject-cdc-advisers-guidance-plan-continue-vaccinating-all

i dont understand these ppl.

Re: Classic Franklin

[(Anonymous)]

I think Elmo, Cookie Monster and Big Bird must be having heart problems too. Why does nobody report their hospitalization for blood clots? It's a conspiracy of silence, a cover-up!

[(Anonymous)]

HS Senior Escorted from School for Following Doctors’ Orders and Skipping Vaccine Booster

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/12/hs-senior-escorted-school-following-doctors-orders-skipping/

i guess this will keep happening until they are stopped

[(Anonymous)]

This wasn't a covid booster, it was for meningitis. Still, if everyone else has the shot, their is no danger from the one who doesn't have it. The main purpose of these vaccines is to protect the individual who receives them. If the risks or side-effects are more intolerable than the likelihood of contracting the disease, then you forgo the shot. The school system does not (or at least should not) have the authority to penalize or pressure you to make a medical decision contrary to your doctor's decision making. I think a lawsuit and legislative redress are called for. Where are those activist lawyers when you need them?

--Lunar Apprentice

[(Anonymous)]

Children’s Health Defense Files CITIZEN PETITION Urging FDA to Revoke COVID Vaccine Licenses After Evidence Agency Violated Its Own Approval Rules — Here’s How Americans Can Submit Comments

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/12/childrens-health-defense-files-citizen-petition-urging-fda/

in case anyone is interested

More good news

[(Anonymous)]

More good news -- ant this is good report with plenty of detail.

Colorado Medical School Will Pay $10.3 Million After Denying Religious Exemptions for COVID Vaccine
No College Mandates
Dec 10, 2025
https://nocollegemandates.substack.com/p/colorado-medical-school-will-pay

* * *

My 2 pesitos: This sets a precedent, we've seen some other settlements, and I think we can count on seeing many more (if we happen to find out about them; I doubt that the legacy media will report much if anything about them).

The denial of the religious exeption was a clear violation of the US Bill of Rights. Lack of informed consent, that was another disaster.

Bring it on, I say. Bring it on.

Re: More good news

[(Anonymous)]

Don't sell this issue short: Coercion to take a medical procedure or substance without informed consent is a crime. A crime against humanity in fact. It is proscribed in the US criminal code. I don't see the Trump DOJ lifting a finger to prosecute these crimes.

--Lunar Apprentice

Former CDC Director Redfield to do livestream today with Steve Kirsch

[(Anonymous)]

I would guess that everybody's going to have a strong opinion about this, and about this ex-CDC director, but my point here is simply: this is historic, and you can listen in live later today. Steve Kirsch has been smeared by the US health authorities as a top "misinformation spreader" for years now. He's been a big backer of RFK Jr. (And so much more.) If you sign in to rumble, you can make comments on live (I believe). And you can comment on Steve Substack of course as well.

Steve Kirsch interviews former CDC Director Robert Redfield MD
Live at 7 PM Eastern Time (USA) Today

Episode 207: Time To Recall The mRNA Vaccines
Vaccine Safety Research Foundation
https://rumble.com/v72sxow-episode-207-taking-pfizergate-to-court-the-battle-to-expose-eu-vaccine-corr.html

[(Anonymous)]

The Atlantic has just come out and said something that I think is very important, so I will just quote the headline: "Yes, Some Children May Have Died From COVID Shots". I see the weasel words, but it's still incredible, because I never thought The Atlantic would say even this much. I'm starting to wonder if we may be about to see a serious pivot away from the mRNA vaccines on the part of the establishment.

I also note the word choice: "shots" instead of "vaccines". It would be wryly amusing, but not exactly unexpected, if the effort to salvage vaccines included attempting to declare the Covid-19 vaccines were never really vaccines...

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2025/12/prasad-memo-covid-vaccine-deaths/685175/

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, and apparently the Atlantic is arguing that they have to admit the deaths in order to sell the "benefits."

From the article:
"But given what is already known, the public-health establishment should be prepared for the alternative. Accepting and acknowledging reasonable proof of that reality would be an important part of effectively combatting the government’s current vaccine skepticism. How can medical professionals discuss the favorable risk-benefit profile of these shots if they aren’t willing to acknowledge their worst risk? Denial also creates opportunities for those who want to break the system to rebuild it. In his memo, Prasad presents a very small number of allegedly catastrophic events as a revelation of such grave importance that “swift action” must be taken in regard to the COVID vaccines and the immunization approval process overall."

So awful. I wonder how they will react when the devastating impact of the vex really becomes know.

[(Anonymous)]

Here We Go: Michigan Dem Rep Files Impeachment Articles Against RFK Jr., Accuses Him of Abandoning “Science” and Endangering Americans

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/12/here-we-go-michigan-dem-rep-files-impeachment/

they are trying to oust him

A Demon Pops Out Of The Sack

[(Anonymous)]

The Atlantic admits that coronavirus shots killed some babies:

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/hanging-out-thursday-december-11

- Cicada Grove

[(Anonymous)]

Russia unveils first test batches of cancer vaccine
The personalized, AI-assisted shot aims to train the immune system to attack tumors

https://www.rt.com/russia/629304-cancer-vaccine-tests/

ai assisted mrna...
i dont think i would trust that..

[the_arcane_archivist]

The personalized, AI-assisted shot aims to train the immune system to attack tumors

https://www.rt.com/russia/629304-cancer-vaccine-tests/

Difference between Russian AI assisted shot is that in Russia it will be generated based on tumor DNA and will be given to people in terminal phase of canncer.

As far as I understand in US the whole idea behind the Stargate program that floats in the air to give a preventive mRNA shot based on the patient DNA give even to healthy people.

Also Russian AI thing could be strategic deception note one thing about AI in Russia and China:

This cancer program is on in Russia for at least half a decade without serious funding or actual rollout.
AI in Russia is minimally funded and a lot of money go into higer education the STEM equivalent in Russia.


AI in China the same is minimally funded and a lot of money go into higer education the STEM equivalent in China too. Alos Chinese AI launch their AI with minimal cost and especially when the bubble in us is about to cool out or even pop.

Wuhan labs, Space programs, cryptocurrencies, can possibly serve the same strategic deception role.

An example of strategic deception is that China and Russia also fail and refuse to clarify how the technologies behind their vассinеs were different, Sputnik and the 3 Chinese vассinеs were having different technologies than the mRNA.

AFP fact check takes the bait, as it doubts the Russian claims fails to see the big picture:
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.76UX8KE


Chinese AI investment money plus exposure in AI is allegedly under 100 billion dollars, while US investment + bubble is between 10 trillion to 20 trillion dollars. Russia doesn't even bother to invests any serious amounts in AI, the most sustainment of AI si only in the press and marginal.

Make of it what you wish!



Also we don't know how much of the Chinese investment in AI is actually Chinese or is it also same US and western money?

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/u-s-investors-are-going-big-on-china-ai-despite-concerns-in-congress-cb9a71c5

U.S. Investors Are Going Big on China AI Despite Concerns in Congress
Lawmakers’ push to restrict funding runs into Wall Street’s hope of making money from the boom

U.S. investors are plowing money into Chinese companies involved in artificial intelligence, despite growing competition between Washington and Beijing over the technology.

[(Anonymous)]

sharing a franklin i just saw:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G78dSYeagAE7r8r.jpg?name=orig

[the_arcane_archivist]

[(Anonymous)]

Breaking: I just sent this $1M offer to drpauloffit to have a public discussion on COVID vaccine safety. Please repost.

https://xcancel.com/stkirsch/status/1998797978023420229#m

screenshot at link

i wonder if he will accept the challenge..

[(Anonymous)]

another meme i just saw

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G75iW0DWIAIPMIX.jpg?name=orig

[(Anonymous)]

USAID linked to pharma testing on Ukrainians – Russian MOD
Civilian agencies were used to mask defense-related research, Major General Aleksey Rtishchev has said

https://www.rt.com/russia/629371-usaid-ukraine-drug-tests/

maybe we will begin to see more about what they were actually doing.