Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 210
Aug. 26th, 2025 08:19 am
We are now into the fifth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary all these years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health remain anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules have been slightly expanded due to a recent discussion here:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.
7. Please don't post LLM ("AI") generated text. This is a place for human beings to talk to other human beings, not for the regurgitation of machine-generated text. Also, please don't discuss large language models (the technology popularly and inaccurately called "artificial intelligence" these days) except as they bear directly on the Covid phenomenon. Here again, my finger is hovering over the delete button.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Latest limited hangout
Date: 2025-08-26 12:33 pm (UTC)From Slate:
https://slate.com/technology/2025/08/millennials-gen-z-death-rates-america-high.html
TL:DR: Mortality is WAY UP among 25-44 age group, in the US, *since covid*. We have NO IDEA why, but because we are Slate, we propose it's because there is something uniquely bad about America, and wouldn't have happened if all our working-age folks had been living in some more civilized country like Norway or something. Their estimate for the number of dead who would still be alive if we were an enlightened country or something: 700,000.
I am contemplating what it means that Slate, of all sources, is admitting to this number of excess deaths, in the working-age cohort. I mean, they lie about everything. Does this mean the real number is even larger? Is this a big enough blip to register in the jobs stats, or is that still being masked by immigration?
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Date: 2025-08-26 06:30 pm (UTC)This article tells me that the number of deaths among younger working aged people is so high it demands comment. I expect that this demographic overlaps quite a bit with Slate's readership. They have probably noticed their friends and colleagues dying and have wondered if it's normal. Slate is telling them the number of deaths is weird, but the reason behind the deaths is totally normal and is consistent with most of the other things Slate writes. It sounds kind of reassuring. At any rate, there is no need to ask any dangerous questions.
As for the actual number, I am not sure. It's only for 25-44 year olds up to the year 2023 as that the last year for which they have reliable data.
(It's very interesting to me that countries whose governments used to provide timely birth, death, and health data don't anymore.)
I do know that around the Fall of 2023 Dr. Peter McCullough said in several interviews that while there was a spike in cardiac deaths up to 9 months after injection, once that time period passed most people seemed fine. He wasn't seeing unusual cardiac deaths in his patients 2 years out from injection, and neither were his colleagues. So if one had injections 2 years brfore in 2021 there didn't seem to be anything to worry about at that moment in 2023. I was relieved and hopeful everytime I heard him say that.
Circumstances unfortunately changed. I remember that in mid-2024 he started saying that he was seeing an excess of cardiac deaths in his patients 2.5 and 3 years since their last injection. He said his colleagues were seeing the same thing too.
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Date: 2025-08-26 01:56 pm (UTC)Health authorities have reported a spike in new cases of the ‘Nimbus’ and ‘Stratus’ strains of the virus
https://www.rt.com/russia/623520-covid-mask-mandates-reintroduced-ukraine/
i wonder if they are thinking of doing a lockdown to avoid holding elections or something..?
also they seem to have named these strains after clouds...
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Date: 2025-08-26 09:44 pm (UTC)Being on the losing side of a failed prophesy cult really does inflict intolerable stresses on its more devout members. The ones who cannot bear to admit that they were obviously wrong (No not that! Anything but that!), will double down on their deranged storylines, despite any and all disconfirming evidence. If only they could pull their heads out of the clouds for a second, they might just notice reality all around them. I wouldn't bet on that happening though, especially in the case of devotees of two potent failed prophesy cults, covid hysteria and Ukrainian victory. Who knows how those two brands of crazy will end up cross-fertilizing — perhaps six-foot Ukrainian-distancing and Slava Covid!
— Christophe
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Date: 2025-08-26 05:17 pm (UTC)One of my long-time neighbors, the one who has a sign on her apartment door saying that everybody is her neighbor, regardless of (a long list, even including political differences). I'm reasonably sure I could smash that one to slivers with one single word, or rather, name-in-the-news. Now she's posted a sign on the neighborhood bulletin board saying "I am wearing a mask because..." three reasons, beginning with "I'm humble." I shake my head and think "Ay, chihuahua!"
and I'm fighting the fact that I'm feeling virtuous over having foresworn virtue signaling!That's right, reality, rub it in......
But.... my neighbors all living out the original COVID scare again......?
The Grey Badger
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Date: 2025-08-26 10:15 pm (UTC)As for any unwanted feelings that her righteous clarion call might arouse in you, I believe you can easily be forgiven for every one of them, given how evident it is that her primary goal in life is provoking everyone around her. What a delightful neighbor you have... and so very humble to boot!
— Christophe
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Date: 2025-08-26 05:20 pm (UTC)On mortality figures and masks
Date: 2025-08-26 07:23 pm (UTC)My uber-vaxxed and boosted neighbor across the street was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in June and is finishing up chemo, getting ready for surgery. Granted, she is 82, but was previously very active. The chemo has completely devasted her. She can barely walk. I don't want to think what the surgery will do. She is very angry, is suffering greatly, and is realizing she only has a short time left. The vaxes had nothing to do with it, of course. Her daughter, in her 40s, also uber vaxxed and boosted, is going in for tests this week for abdominal cancer. My vaxed next door neighbor got Guillain-Barre syndrome soon after the vax and is still having physical therapy to combat the effects. My 27 year old stepson got the vax and got Myocarditis shortly after and was in the ICU for 5 weeks. He is now on medication to keep him alive that costs $900,000 a year. That is not a typo -- just under a million dollars a year. I had a co-worker in his early 40s who got vaxed and dropped dead in 2022 of a blood clot.
Less dire, but still tough to take, my son has pretty terrible psoriasis that got markedly worse after the vax (which he had to get in order to keep his job). My oldest daughter who is multiply vaxxed and boosted (she is a true believer, nothing I say makes a difference and potentially makes it worse) has many, many health issues to the point where she is on full disability from the Military.
We are just seeing the beginnings of this disaster.
On masks: I live in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. There are quite a few people in masks, and even driving alone in cars in masks -- I saw one just last week! Not anything like the number during the lockdowns, but there are still plenty of people in the mask cult!
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Date: 2025-08-26 07:45 pm (UTC)As for deaths, so far my circle of acquaintances has been spared, but we'll see. I think it's quite true that we're still in the opening act of the disaster.
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Date: 2025-08-27 03:08 am (UTC)Dear JMG and dear forumistas,
Thank you very much for making this forum possible.
JMG, what was the discussion that prompted you to slightly expand the discussion? I did not see a link to that in this week's introduction. (Might it have been the one on this week's Magic Monday about Maurice Strong?)
I never could have imagined that at summer's end 2025 in my personal and professional life I would still be surrounded by so many people who are either unwilling to discuss anything about covid or who are perfectly fine with taking more boosters. Strange days.
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Date: 2025-08-27 03:15 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/rfk-jr-reveals-hhs-has-identified-interventions-behind/
this should be interesting, but i cant help but wonder if it will have nothing to do with the shots.
but september is not far at all, so we ought to know what they came up with soon.
the EUA is over
Date: 2025-08-27 05:40 pm (UTC)https://www.statnews.com/2025/08/27/fda-covid-vaccines-kennedy-rescinds-emergency-use-authorization/
According to the article in STAT, the main effect of this will be to make it harder to get the shot for children under the age of 5.
--Ms. Krieger
Re: the EUA is over
Date: 2025-08-27 07:35 pm (UTC)COVID vaccine EUAs are finally gone.
Good news today.
Meryl Nass
Aug 27, 2025
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/covid-vaccine-euas-are-finally-gone
O'Keefe Dares The Authorities in the Nova Scotia Woods!
Date: 2025-08-27 06:29 pm (UTC)Some may recall a few weeks ago I had mentioned the ban on human activities in the woods in Canada's province of Nova Scotia (or else face a $25k fine) and war veteran/Freedom Convoy protester Jeff Evely seeking and then happily receiving said fine (plus taxes, of course). Well, word has been spreading. And via folks such as Viva Frei (former Montreal litigator and extensive live broadcaster of the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa - and now self-exiled vlogger living in Florida) have been highly instrumental in getting news of the latest lockdown craze north of the 49th to as many Americans as possible. Well, a couple of weeks ago, James O'Keefe interviewed Viva and decided to go see things for himself.
So, James O'Keefe went to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, loaded up with video and audio equipment and quite conspicuously went for a walk in said woods. He spotted some Karens near the yellow tape blocking a trail and suspected that at least one of them would use the province's snitch line. O'keefe is a good judge of character - and shared the audio of the call to the police in the video (I must give credit to the Karen in question as she provided a very accurate description of James The Outlaw). Now, it just so happens that James had been in contact with Jeff Evely, who was discretely parked in the same lot as James's van; Jeff called James during his walk to inform him that a police cruiser arrived, an officer came out and went along the path for a minute or two, and then went back into his cruiser and left. Since O'Keefe's van was conspicuous with its corporate signage (O'Keefe Media Group), it is possible that the officer decided that he'd prefer not to be made a fool of in a video by James - but that is speculation on my part; perhaps he was a 'good cop' who felt obligated to just go through the motions but is not a fan of the latest tyrannical law. I am sure that a few still exist.
Disappointed, but not deterred by this setback, James continued his walk in the wet, rainy woods (perhaps Tim Houston, premier of Nova Scotia, knows something that we don't about rain possibly enhancing human combustibility in the forest? Dunno - but regardless the ban is still in place). And he encountered a Dept of Natural Resources staffer, hoping to get spotted, nabbed, maybe roughed up a little. But no, the staffer was a geezer on a gas-powered ATV (no possibility of that machine causing a fire in the forest, right?) who didn't take the bait. Later, James upped the ante by urinating in the woods. Ultimately, he ended up leaving the woods empty-handed and empty-bladdered. Oh, well. It was well worth the try.
O'Keefe's 7-minute video of the whole affair is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYyVlAekCsA. And if anyone is fond of accents, near the end of the video he has a chat with a local woman who speaks the standard "Caper" accent (kind of a mix of Nova Scotian and Newfie accents).
Honk, honk!
Ron M
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Date: 2025-08-27 06:44 pm (UTC)What we need now is a hundred people who all look enough like James O'Keefe to pass, and who can put "O'Keefe Media Group" signage on their vehicles and go various places with audio and video gear. There's a very good chance the bureaucratic state would collapse on the spot in shivering panic.
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Date: 2025-08-27 07:00 pm (UTC)https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/fda-rescinds-emergency-use-authorizations-for-covid-19-vaccines-rfk-jr/ar-AA1Ll9P2
i was reading a thread about this just now on twit, and a lot of ppl's comments were things like 'not good enough' and that they should be taken off the market altogether..
here is the thread if anyone is interested:
https://xcancel.com/DiedSuddenly_/status/1960769552658129172#m
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Date: 2025-08-28 08:07 am (UTC)COVID-19 Injections: Harms and Damages, a Non-Exhaustive Conclusion
Andrew Zywiec, M.D
Irene Mavrakakis, M.D.
Peter McCullough, M.D.
Nicolas Hulscher, M.P.H.
Aaron Kheriaty, M.D.
Paul Marik, M.D.
James Thorp, M.D.
Marivic Villa, M.D.
Charles Rixey, M.A.
Lt. Edward Macie, USN MSC
Abraxas Hudson
Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons Volume 30 Number 3 Fall 202
ABSTRACT
Compelling evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV-2 modified mRNA biologics/vaccines are products of gain-of-function (GOF) research, with genomic features and vaccine outcomes that suggest deliberate engineering rather than natural evolution. Far from benign, these vaccines have unleashed profound harm, disrupting nearly every system of the human body and contributing to unprecedented levels of morbidity and mortality. From autoimmune diseases and
cardiovascular catastrophes to pregnancy complications and aggressive cancers, the pattern of systemic toxicity cannot be dismissed as coincidental. Urgent scrutiny and accountability are needed.
https://www.jpands.org/vol30no3/zywiec.pdf
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Date: 2025-08-28 04:38 pm (UTC)https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/cdc-director-susan-monarez-ousted-vaccine-policy-clash-rfk-jr-four-top-officials-quit
'The X account "Died Suddenly" published a profile of Monarez, offering readers a snapshot of her background and political leanings
NEW: Susan Monarez was fired as CDC Director for trying to keep mRNA shots on the recommended childhood vaccine schedule and saying "vaccines save lives"
Monarez has a long history of connections to Bill Gates and his foundation, such as her time at Stanford for postdoctoral research where she worked in a department chaired by Mark Davis, who went on to receive $50M from Gates before the pandemic to create vaccines and found the university's Human Systems Immunology Center.
Monarez also served at the deputy director of ARPA under Bisen and oversaw a partnership with a biotech firm called Ginkgo Bioworks. This firm was underwritten by a Gates-controlled investment firm, Cascade Investment.'
so this is good. ppl were not happy with her as a pick.
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Date: 2025-08-29 03:34 pm (UTC)** gets coat **
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Date: 2025-08-28 05:51 pm (UTC)“President Trump has very, very ambitious hopes for the CDC right now. The CDC has problems.
We saw the misinformation coming out of Covid. They got the testing wrong. The got the social distancing, the masks, the school closures that did so much harm to the American people…
Today on CDC’s website right now, they list the 10 top advances in medical sciences and one of them is abortion. The other is fluoridation. Another is vaccines.
So we need to look at the priorities of the agency - if there’s really a deeply embedded malaise at the agency. And we need strong leadership that will go in there and be able to execute on President Trump’s broad ambitions…
It may be that some people should not be working there anymore.”
https://x.com/TheStormRedux/status/1961048578362667196#m
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Date: 2025-08-28 05:54 pm (UTC)also mentioned that they are studying the impact of SSRI’s (depression medications) on mental health, working to get medical schools to teach REAL nutrition, and more.
Here is the full interview:
https://x.com/TheStormRedux/status/1961055589829574716#m
9 min.
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Date: 2025-08-30 12:23 am (UTC)Nah, silly me, that could affect Pharma profit$.
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Date: 2025-08-28 07:11 pm (UTC)Death by a thousand cuts? CDC advisers plot sweeping COVID vax review as RFK Jr. yanks emergency OK
"For some reason, there is a misconception that harms of vaccines primarily show up shortly after vaccination," says chair of new working group and MIT professor Retsef Levi, known for vaccine-heart problem study.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/death-thousand-cuts-cdc-advisers-plot-sweeping-review-covid-vax-rfk-jr
a lot of info in this article
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Date: 2025-08-28 10:43 pm (UTC)We all have, on a daily basis, cellular breakdowns that could, if not removed by our immune systems, become cancerous.
There is now an epidemic of anomalous cancers of all sorts. Among the concerns, obviously, is the jab which has destabilized the immune systems of those taking it. Cancers which were dormant have exploded into highly aggressive turbo cancers and other cancers have stricken previously very healthy young people.
Cancer is also closely related to exposure of ionizing radiation. We are exposed to such radiation from a wide variety of sources at low and presumably safe levels.
3I/ATLAS, also known as C/2025 N1 (ATLAS) and previously as A11pl3Z, is a massive interstellar object whose trajectory of 3I/ATLAS will bring the comet close to the planets Venus, Mars, and Jupiter, but not Earth. However, it will be surrounded within a gassy globe of dust and electrically charged plasma which increases in size as it interacts with solar energy, becoming, at peak, approximately one-seventh the size of the our sun itself. Physics is more or less beyond its own border of knowledge as this object was formed by processes not of our solar system and perhaps not even of our galaxy.
One anticipated effect will be a substantial increase in ionizing radiation.
I can only wonder whether this will influence on our planet and populations.
I also wonder how astrologists fit such invasive bodies into their considerations!
I you are interested in the incoming object (closest to Earth 12/19), see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFm8IVFuUg
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Date: 2025-08-29 01:29 pm (UTC)https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14972265/vaccines-terrifying-disabilities.html
i thought ppl couldnt sue them
but if they can, i hope they will win.
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Date: 2025-08-30 06:05 pm (UTC)It seems that the Biotechnology Innovation Organization (BIO), whose membership includes Pfizer, Merck, Novavax, Vaxcyte, and hundreds of biotech firms that profit from regulatory insulation, has a mole.
When the nation’s leading pharmaceutical trade group convenes a closed-door strategy meeting and openly discusses the need to “go to The Hill and lobby that it is time for RFK Jr. to go,” the issue is no longer health policy—it is democratic integrity.
According to the apparent leaked minutes, verified by the name of the creator of the file, on April 3, 2025, BIO held a “Vaccine Policy Steering Committee” (VPSC) meeting whose internal summary, soon to be publicly available thanks to whistleblowers, reveals a campaign of strategic deception, institutional capture, and psychological warfare and exposes a campaign of institutional deception, investor protection, and coordinated sabotage of the MAHA reform platform.
According to the leaked document, titled “BIO Vaccine Policy Steering Committee – April 3, 2025”, BIO has committed $2 million—half of its cash reserve—to counter what it calls the “threat” posed by Kennedy’s rise. But this is no ordinary PR push. It is a multi-pronged campaign designed to deceive the public, silence dissent, and preserve industry dominance through influence operations masquerading as science.
The Plot Exposed
The document opens with a blunt political calculation: Kennedy’s candidacy threatens investor confidence, regulatory predictability, and the long-term viability of the vaccine business. BIO leadership in the apparent leaked document states plainly: “It is time to go to The Hill and lobby that it is time for RFK Jr to go.”
To achieve this, according to the document, BIO intends to deploy surrogates across the political spectrum, co-opt conservative influencers, and bypass direct engagement with the Kennedy campaign altogether. Among the figures named as potential allies in this covert effort: Dr. Mehmet Oz, former Senator Richard Burr (former Senator NC; Advisor DLA Piper Health Policy Steering Committee), Senator Bill Cassidy (in a section of the document focused on strategic influencer engagement and legislative positioning), and the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). These individuals and institutions, the memo suggests, can provide a veneer of bipartisan legitimacy to BIO’s core aim: neutralize Kennedy without ever addressing the substance of his critique.
Follow the Money
The most revealing detail is that $2 million—precisely half of BIO’s entire $4 million reserve—has been allocated to vaccine communications, specifically a D.C.-area pilot campaign called “Why We Vaccinate.” The purpose is not education, but behavioral influence: to combine “inspire and frighten” tactics in order to manipulate public sentiment and legislative behavior.
Internal documents state clearly that the campaign’s goal is to appeal to the “movable middle” using emotionally charged messaging, capitalizing on fear messaging tied to national security, workforce resilience, and economic productivity.
More details on this can be found on my substack essay:
malone.news/p/the-plot-to-ge…
The Plot to Get RFK, Jr.
BIO: “It is time to go to The Hill and lobby that it is time for RFK Jr to go.”
https://www.malone.news/p/the-plot-to-get-rfk
..i am not surprised that dr oz is named here..
trump's base never wanted him as a pick at all.
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Date: 2025-08-31 03:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-08-31 07:17 pm (UTC)A former CDC Director for the Obama Administration doesn't like parents being in charge of their children's health choices.
https://x.com/HighWireTalk/status/1962217255678132722#m
short clip at link
there are many of them still there, too, as well as other agencies
rfkjr is up against a LOT.
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Date: 2025-09-01 02:49 pm (UTC)https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1962500486054945132#m
his statement is at link
i find this very interesting...
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Date: 2025-09-01 02:52 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/retsef-levi-fires-back-after-top-cdc-officials/
we are going to be finding out much more i am thinking..