Magic Monday
May. 18th, 2025 09:44 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
Midnight is upon us and so it's time to launch a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism, and with certain exceptions noted below, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note: Any question or comment received after that point will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 341,928th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.3 of The Magic Monday FAQ here. Also: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says. And further: I've decided that questions about getting goodies from spirits are also permanently off topic here. The point of occultism is to develop your own capacities, not to try to bully or wheedle other beings into doing things for you. I've discussed this in a post on my blog.
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Date: 2025-05-19 04:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-05-19 04:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-05-20 02:04 am (UTC)Many of the gods/goddesses overlap in traits (e.g. Minerva and Mars). If I want to be a warrior (and I don't), which one do I pray to or invoke? Or do I just invoke both/all of them?
For example, I can't even count how many gods/goddesses in Vedic mythology represent one or a combination of fortune/money/worldly success/wisdom/success/luck (or similarly, warrior/martial victory/military victory/etc). I could never quite figure out what to make of this overlap.
As an aside, I also don't think I know of a single set of beliefs that has more than a single god for fate/karma...
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Date: 2025-05-20 02:32 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2025-05-20 03:45 am (UTC)Oh, and remember you can always hand over a little cash to a professional diviner to get good advice while you're still learning.
Wierdness this Saturday and Sunday...
Date: 2025-05-19 04:23 pm (UTC)This Saturday night and the first two thirds of Sunday, I felt massively off-- very cranky, brain foggy, and almost sick. Sunday morning it literally felt like I was under attack. Sunday late afternoon I ate a carnitas burrito (i.e. red meat) and worked on my chinese herbs page, and the crankiness sailed away to be replaced by my usual, much better mood.
Did anybody else notice something over this weekend, or was it just me/my local environment?
Thanks!
Re: Wierdness this Saturday and Sunday...
Date: 2025-05-19 04:58 pm (UTC)Re: Wierdness this Saturday and Sunday...
Date: 2025-05-19 06:54 pm (UTC)What was the class about?
Re: Wierdness this Saturday and Sunday...
Date: 2025-05-19 07:41 pm (UTC)Re: Wierdness this Saturday and Sunday...
Date: 2025-05-19 05:52 pm (UTC)Re: Wierdness this Saturday and Sunday...
Date: 2025-05-19 09:44 pm (UTC)I had multiple seizures in the afternoon. More than my family were used to. It was unusual for me.
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Date: 2025-05-19 09:48 pm (UTC)Re: Wierdness this Saturday and Sunday...
Date: 2025-05-19 09:52 pm (UTC)Likewise, I hope you will be OK.
Wow.
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Date: 2025-05-19 05:47 pm (UTC)Are there any books that show how to draw an astrological chart, birth chart etc without a computer, I suppose there is some serious algebra involved, you need some tables, trigonometric table, for coordinates etc...
Thank you,
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Date: 2025-05-19 06:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2025-05-19 09:53 pm (UTC)It's a skill set that I think should be preserved.
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Date: 2025-05-19 10:38 pm (UTC)https://archive.org/details/easyintroduction00isaa
https://archive.org/details/TeachYourselfTheSlideRuleBurnsSnodgrass1958
https://archive.org/details/useofsliderule00cullrich
https://archive.org/details/sliderulesimplif00coha
https://archive.org/details/picksliderule00pickrich
https://archive.org/details/programmedslidequenrobe
The first is by none other than Isaac Asimov, who (like every working scientist of his generation) was adept with a "slipstick."
One very good book that isn't available for free download, as far as I know, is Clyde Clason's Delights of the Slide Rule. It's fairly hard to find these days, though I have a copy; if you spot one, snap it up.
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Date: 2025-05-20 03:45 am (UTC)Thank you so much!!
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Date: 2025-05-19 09:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-05-19 06:42 pm (UTC)Is there a reliable book of natural magic correspondences you would recommend in addition to yours?
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Date: 2025-05-19 07:42 pm (UTC)SoP and ToL
Date: 2025-05-19 07:17 pm (UTC)I was wondering if there is a direct relationship between the SoP and the ToL or is it just a coincidence that the SoP has 10 slots/spaces to for divine names/qualities?
Re: SoP and ToL
Date: 2025-05-19 08:43 pm (UTC)A Data point, and a question
Date: 2025-05-19 07:23 pm (UTC)The data point I have to offer is this: While, for years, "Trump = Hitler" seemed to be the national anthem of the deranged would-be resistance, a great deal of that energy seems to now be directed at Elon Musk. I hear about his alleged Nazi Party Membership almost as much as I hear about Trump, at least from the portion of that scene where I can have my ear to the ground. So, that much seems to be bearing out.
My question: What Archetype do you believe is now being channeled by Trump? Personally, I hope that it is some sovereign spirit of America that will get us pointed in a better direction, but I am trying not to let that cloud my vision!
Thanks again for all of these.
Re: A Data point, and a question
Date: 2025-05-19 08:26 pm (UTC)Re: A Data point, and a question
Date: 2025-05-19 08:57 pm (UTC)His stint as Changer doesn't seem to be lasting long, and it'll be interesting to see who that elusive archetype chooses next. As for Trump, it was a momentous shift when his color in the popular imagination changed from Mercury's orange to Solar gold. (Jim Kunstler was as usual ahead of the game here, when he started calling Trump the "Golden Golem of Greatness.") He's taken on the archetype of the sacrificial hero-king, which is why I expect him to die in office. The Democrats had better hope that he dies of natural causes; if it turns out otherwise, the possibility of mass pogroms against his more outspoken enemies can't be ruled out.
Re: A Data point, and a question
Date: 2025-05-19 09:47 pm (UTC)Side note, over at Mr. Taibbi's blog he seems to have had a bit of a spiritual experience himself:
"The last few weeks of partisan squabbling first sent me into a depressed stupor, then I woke to a current of clarifying spleen. A voice explained: “It’s not your destiny to have friends. It’s your destiny to tell everyone, Republican and Democrat, male and female, what cunts they are.”"
I'm not saying that was The Changer, but... *Ancient Aliens Guy Meme*
Come to think of it, Matt Taibbi of all people exploding onto the American political scene through sheer tendentious and scurrilous venom directed at the political class would be the kind of surprise the Changer might find funny. Which seems to be a big motivating factor.
Full piece here, for anyone interested:
https://www.racket.news/p/ode-to-scum?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1042&post_id=163791670&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=16dal&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Re: A Data point, and a question
Date: 2025-05-19 09:49 pm (UTC)Re: A Data point, and a question
Date: 2025-05-20 01:42 am (UTC)Re: A Data point, and a question
Date: 2025-05-20 02:38 am (UTC)-- so you're picking up the archetype.
non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-19 07:47 pm (UTC)In addition to this, I remember an earlier comment somewhere that various other entities can incarnate as humans, which is not limited to the alien swarm above.
So I'm wondering, what sort of non-human entities can incarnate in human bodies? Elementals, trickster spirits maybe? Other stuff? Presumably not demons, since they're locked out of reincarnation due to screwing up so severely that they ran out of second chances. I assume also that the fey/fair folk can't be human since they're on a different path than us, I believe. Also, any specific reason why this happens? Too many human bodies to be filled? Their own intentions, devious or not?
I don't mean to overload you, these are just prompts for the sort of knowledge I'm after.
Also, if this is true, it would explain why some people have a sort of inhuman quality to them. Ppl joke about Zuckerberg being an android, and that's one example, but there's also a certain prominent politician who comes across ice-cold and without conscience (on the left, not the right; I'm not worried about that western gov't, but don't want to cause issues, since you said you plan to visit). Donald Trump, ftr, is fully human, and possibly the reincarnation of King Henry the VIII, but that's just wild speculation on my part. Ppl have also speculated that Trump is the return of General Patton, given their similarities and the proximity of their lives.
That was going off on a tangent, but as always, I'm interested in all relevant details.
Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-19 09:07 pm (UTC)As to why it happens, there are a great many reasons why it can happen: glitches in the system of incarnation, basically. As far as I can tell, it's not more common during periods of high human population -- that normally causes a lot of animal souls who would become human eventually to end up in human bodies prematurely, which is why periods of high population are also periods of greater than usual human stupidity and mass-mindedness.
The vision I described last week is a different matter. The souls in question came en masse something like six thousand years ago, and were able to make the necessary changes to allow them to incarnate in human bodies in the normal way. They came because they thought they could accomplish something here that they couldn't do in their world, or anywhere else on the sixth Cosmic plane; they failed, and since then, yeah, they've wanted to return home.
As for Zuckerberg et al., I don't think they belong to the class of spirits I have in mind. I'm guessing that they're a more ordinary class of nonhumans, which explains their lack of human feeling and their inability to relate to the needs of other human beings.
Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-19 09:48 pm (UTC)I was told I was a squirrel in my previous life. Still have relationships with them. Is that the same?
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Date: 2025-05-19 10:56 pm (UTC)Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-19 11:15 pm (UTC)Add on fame, money, a silicon valley culture, and you have the usual recipe for an out-of-touch billionaire, and we had those well before the internet.
There are malign features of the internet, and I think Facebook created some of the first infrastructure for them, but I sort of see Zuckerberg as the normal sort of silicon valley arsehole. The later AI folk seem creepier by comparison.
Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-19 11:37 pm (UTC)Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-19 11:44 pm (UTC)https://www.ecosophia.net/the-subnatural-realm-a-speculation/
Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-19 11:35 pm (UTC)I realized that the alien swarm came here with some intention, but now I know the distinction between this, versus other spirits essentially glitching into human form. I also didn't realize that fairies & demons were capable of crossing over. I do recall your point about the souls of large animals coming into human form in periods of high population, which helps explain NPCs and groupthink, I just wasnt sure if that was the only mechanism.
As for demons, I remember seeing mugshots of serial killer types, and something about their eyes was very dark and disturbing. Demonic humans may help explain that, although that may not be the only reason.
I figured elementals were the most common case, but for those and other non-human types, that would explain why some people are on a different wavelength, or just lack certain human qualities.
But wait, as a follow-up: if they often don't live long, does that mean stillbirths, infant mortality, or unusual early deaths (not related to covid/vax) are sometimes the result of mismatched incarnations? Maybe the spirit wants to get out the human body it doesn't belong in?
Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-19 11:46 pm (UTC)Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-20 12:09 am (UTC)Once again, thanks for the knowledge.
Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-20 12:12 am (UTC)Re: non-human spirits in human form
Date: 2025-05-20 02:24 am (UTC)Also, when writing that post, at first I put 3 letters, but something told me to reduce down to 2, which is also consistent.
Thanks again!
Sea and salt air
Date: 2025-05-19 08:02 pm (UTC)Re: Sea and salt air
Date: 2025-05-19 09:09 pm (UTC)Re: Sea and salt air
Date: 2025-05-20 01:23 am (UTC)I've never tested the theory, but maybe there would be a health benefit to using a salt lamp to gain some part of the benefit you find by the sea?
Augury
Date: 2025-05-19 09:11 pm (UTC)I don't know how much of an expert you are on augury, but I will ask anyway.
About 4 years ago, I started a new job and a day after starting, a crow arrived on the fire escape staircase on the outside of the building near to my desk and started cawing loudly and tapping on the glass door. After speaking to other colleagues, this had apparently never happened before. The crow was there for an hour or so every day for about the next week, then came back every couple of months for a few days over the course of those 4 years.
Fast-forward to April this year, and a day after I have received an offer for another job, there is a European buzzard (I'm in the UK, so a buzzard is a big hawk-like bird of prey, not a vulture) sat on the fire escape instead. Again, the buzzard sat out there for about an hour (long enough for me to take a photo through the glass fire escape door as evidence) and left. Then, on my final day at the company a month later, which also happened to be the day that a round of mass redundancies (also known as lay-offs in the US) was announced, the buzzard was back again for an hour.
I also had a blue tit fly into our conservatory room at home the day after I'd finished working there (I helped it escape again).
This is all clearly a series of omens, but I may be a bit thick when it comes to augury and have no idea what it all means, so could you or anyone else explain what the likely significance is and whether there's anything I should heed from this?
I should point out that I'm actually quite a fan of crows (and also hawks/other birds of prey, as well as blue tits), so none of the birds have any obvious negative association for me. We also had (presumably a different) buzzard perching on a fence post at the end of our garden not long after we moved into our house about 5 years ago as well, and a magpie flew into the conservatory about the same time then as well.
Thanks for any advice/assistance.
Re: Augury
Date: 2025-05-19 09:12 pm (UTC)Anyone else?
Re: Augury
Date: 2025-05-19 09:33 pm (UTC)J.L.Mc12
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Date: 2025-05-19 09:30 pm (UTC)In the past you've mentioned that people suffering from heart disease and/or high blood pressure should refrain from learning and practicing ceremonial magic and energy work. With the necessary caveat of not being professional medical advice, would you call advanced parts of John Gilbert's system safe for someone with one of those conditions? Or, if not, can you recommend a comprehensive system of occult training that avoids the potentially dangerous practices?
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Date: 2025-05-19 09:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-05-19 09:35 pm (UTC)You know I'm not from this place
I'm from a different time, different space
And it's real uncomfortable
To be stuck somewhere you just don't belong
It can be heard here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8jjudZBWSI
She also died 2 years ago at the age of 56. I wonder if the covid vaccine will lead to the massive die off you mentioned over the coming years. I guess time will tell. If the ones that die from it were from this other planet, then I suppose you could say there was a purpose to the MRNA vaccines after all, apart from making tons of money for Big Pharma.
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Date: 2025-05-19 10:43 pm (UTC)lizard people
Date: 2025-05-20 04:02 am (UTC)Atmospheric RIver
sorry for last minute
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Date: 2025-05-19 11:46 pm (UTC)High magic in the age of steam
Date: 2025-05-19 09:44 pm (UTC)I recently bought an interesting book titled “High magic in the age of steam” by Jeffrey S. Kupperman. It is essentially an introduction to Victorian-era occultism and a manual for applying it to the creation of steampunk characters and worlds. I was just browsing it, and discovered that it cites you as a source.
https://www.crossedcrowbooks.com/shop-crossed-crow-books/p/high-magic-in-the-age-of-steam
J.L.Mc12
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Date: 2025-05-20 12:37 am (UTC)Yamnaya
Date: 2025-05-20 02:39 am (UTC)Re: Yamnaya
Date: 2025-05-20 02:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-05-20 02:58 am (UTC)If they entered our realm 6,000 years ago, well... 6,000 years before THAT was ca. 10,000 BC, the date associated with the start of the Holocene, the fall of Atlantis, and what the scientists have as the invention of agriculture.
And it's also quite interesting in light of this that the Judeo-Christian young-earth timeline puts the Earth at about 6,000 years old...
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Date: 2025-05-19 11:54 pm (UTC)As for the powerful boomers burning things down with debt, inflation, financialization, social engineering, endless wars... it occurred to me that it would be a hilarious karmic ripening if these boomers were reborn into the same society they crashed, forced to live amidst the rubble they created. That would be exquisite irony.
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Date: 2025-05-20 12:06 am (UTC)It's not just the Boomers, by the way, who don't want to live with the consequences of their actions. I quite often field questions from people who are trying to find some way that reincarnation won't land them in the future ahead of us, and it's pretty clear that the motivation for those questions is a desire to duck out on the world that so many people these days are helping to make.
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Date: 2025-05-20 02:28 am (UTC)Maybe the experience of human incarnation will end eventually, but in the meantime, it's an interesting ride.
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Date: 2025-05-20 12:14 am (UTC)Funny you posted that
Date: 2025-05-20 02:24 am (UTC)We are in the realm of +++speculation.
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Date: 2025-05-20 02:24 am (UTC)You said that they were hoping to accomplish something here that they thought would be possible on Earth, but it turned out that it wasn't possible. Do you have any idea what it was?
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Date: 2025-05-20 02:41 am (UTC)ICYMI: Call of the Old Gods (Christopher McIntosh)
Date: 2025-05-19 10:32 pm (UTC)LeGrand
Re: ICYMI: Call of the Old Gods (Christopher McIntosh)
Date: 2025-05-19 10:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-05-19 11:16 pm (UTC)A.E. Waite founded the Fellowship of the Rosy Cross, but was that before or after he started the Holy Order of the Golden Dawn? I wanted to see the chronology and how the rituals in the book Complete Rosicrucian Initiations of the Fellowship of the Rosy Cross compare to the tradition passed down from John Gilbert
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Date: 2025-05-19 11:53 pm (UTC)ICYMI 2: un-deracination
Date: 2025-05-19 11:28 pm (UTC)Sasha Chaitow, at her Substack site, has been discussing even more precise and extensive material in the Greek cultural sphere, especially with respect to the early Solomonic tradition, and the continuation of the proper pronunciation of the PGM voces magicae of the Papyri Graecae Magicae within the tradition of Greek Orthodox liturgical chanting. There's too much to summarize, but at https://thyrathen.substack.com/p/solomonic-magic-and-astrology-in she touches on such things as the planetary hours as canonical hours, and at https://thyrathen.substack.com/p/how-to-pronounce-the-voces-magicae she touches on some liturgical matters. And then there are the folk traditions.
Needless to say, to assess or pursue this line of inquiry one would ideally have the training of an Orthodox scholar-cleric, and personal roots in the world of Greek folk culture. I suppose there are few Orthodox clerics who would care to pursue the subject, and even fewer who would care to be known as caring about the subject. But to the extent that her inquiries bear fruit, they make a good case that there is far less discontinuity between the Classical, Hellenistic, Christian, and esoteric-magical traditions than people are used to assuming.
LeGrand
Re: ICYMI 2: un-deracination
Date: 2025-05-19 11:55 pm (UTC)Breaking the spell of the Internet
Date: 2025-05-19 11:36 pm (UTC)1. I started a daily meditation practice (doesn't have to be huge amounts)
2. I put up a picture of Minerva's face in my cubicle so she's watching me at work. (I've been praying to her for some time.)
3. I quietly offered each day to Her as an offering at the beginning of the work day.
4. I found a 'substitute' activity for the anxiety and boredom that drove me to the Internet - pulling up a work-related document onto the screen and staring at it for a bit. This resulted in me getting back to work much more quickly than a 'quick Internet break'.
5. I bought myself a small treat (book or wine) at the end of each week that I succeeded.
It's not easy to break an Internet habit in an office environment, so good luck to everyone else out there with the same issue.
Re: Breaking the spell of the Internet
Date: 2025-05-19 11:55 pm (UTC)Astral overlap?
Date: 2025-05-19 11:39 pm (UTC)Re: Astral overlap?
Date: 2025-05-19 11:56 pm (UTC)Pet Soul
Date: 2025-05-19 11:42 pm (UTC)I recently lost my dog. I know this topic has come up before but what happens to the soul of a pet? Do animals proceed along a evolutionary pathway like humans?
Will I see him again, perhaps in a different form?
Thank you for your work.
Re: Pet Soul
Date: 2025-05-20 12:02 am (UTC)Animals belong to the same evolutionary pathway and swarm of souls as humans. We're just a little ahead of them -- and in the case of animals as intelligent and sensitive as dogs, the gap isn't much. One of the benefits that animals can receive from companionship with human beings, in fact, is that if they're close to making the leap to our level, our presence and company can jumpstart the process by a kind of induction. Thus you may very well see your friend again -- and next time he may be in a human body.
Re: Pet Soul
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Date: 2025-05-20 03:56 am (UTC)beginning DMH
Date: 2025-05-20 01:39 am (UTC)I'm interested in working with the druid revival deities at some point, but i feel like I don't know them yet, and I have a strong working relationship with several others. Mostly greco-roman because the amount of information has helped me understand them with more nuance. I also am an esoteric christian, and using Christ as spirit within has an appeal.
Does it help keep balance if deities are somewhat from the same pantheon? At least in the different segments, like same pantheon for the cross, same pantheon for the main elements, same pantheon for the spirit?
I think I see a few options and if you would give your opinions on them I would appreciate it.
a) Maybe I should just use the SoP as an introduction to druid revival deities? (Side note: do you have any resources to suggest for more lore on them?)
b) Or maybe I can put deities I have an existing connection to in where they're appropriate, and use the druid ones for the rest?
c) go all greco roman to maintain balance and see if druid deities speak to me to switch later as I go through my druid training.
Re: beginning DMH
Date: 2025-05-20 02:46 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-05-20 02:02 am (UTC)Does your book on polarity magic contain exercises for the solo practitioner? I am single, male, and have long been interested in the possibility of channeling unused sexual energies and desires into constructive channels, but haven't had a clue where to begin.
Thank you
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Date: 2025-05-20 02:54 am (UTC)https://archive.org/details/rosicrucianmanua00plum/page/44/mode/2up
Last question!
Date: 2025-05-20 02:07 am (UTC)Re: Last question!
Date: 2025-05-20 02:52 am (UTC)