Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 193

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

CDC Advisers Consider Recommending Narrower Use Of COVID-19 Vaccines

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/cdc-advisers-consider-recommending-narrower-use-covid-19-vaccines

i have read this, but i cant figure out if it is a good thing or not..

[(Anonymous)]

It is good only if "narrow" is limited to Fauci being boosted daily -

https://rumble.com/vv9hwr-dr-faucis-explanation-on-the-booster-shots.html

[ecosophia]

I think his immune system definitely needs more stimulation, though I admit my sense of how to administer it tends more toward public flogging.

[revert2mean]

I think it's a good thing. They can't just admit, "Hey, we were totally wrong, look how much covid there is, obviously these shots don't work at all and they're super-dangerous." So they gradually walk back their guidance. Here, in Australia, they now say "most" people only need one shot. But of course a lot of people have had eleven or whatever they're up to now. And they no longer recommend them at all for under-18s. They want to gradually walk away and pretend it all never happened.

[weilong]

I hope that's the first step in the right direction. Corporate and bureaucratic types are primarily concerned with avoiding responsibility for anything. That's why policy changes are always framed as "there is nothing wrong, and that's why this complete reversal is actually no change at all, because why would we change anything when there is nothing wrong." And if anything is wrong, it is important to blame it on someone who no longer works there. Former employees function as scapegoats, taking all of the past sins of the organization with them when they leave.

[(Anonymous)]

That link is to a story about ACIP, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), which advises to CDC. I suspect they're trying to cover their tooshes, a little bit, and way, way, way, way, way oh way too late.

[drhooves]

From the article:

"The CDC currently recommends all Americans aged 6 months and older receive one of the available COVID-19 vaccines, even if they have been vaccinated in the past."

My vote is for bad. If this is a checkpoint of the whole debacle, it shows how much attrition is involved in getting the official .gov recommendations to change. We're well aware of the harm of the Jabs, the ineffectiveness of the Jabs, and how they're not required or banned in other countries. And we've known this for four years now.

I'm still in the camp of some other emergency will come along to eclipse the last remaining focus for criminal charges.

A couple of weeks ago, some people posting on this thread we're talking about "letting go". I won't be doing that, but I will freely admit accepting responsibility and dealing with reality over the shots is a challenge for many.

[slinky_weasel]

Letting go? This whole cooties madness changed me. I'm not the same person I was in January 2020. I really don't see any way back. I don't think "letting go" is an option.

[(Anonymous)]

slinky weasel, I'm with you on this. This covidian catastrophe changed me, too, there's no going back, and not only is it not OK, it will never be OK. I myself may heal from the trauma, I am healing now— I know I can experience joy, I can live a good life. But as I say, what happened is not OK, and it will never be OK.

People such as myself may be a minority, but there are nonetheless many of us. And our deeply rooted refusal to "accept and move on" is something that I think of many other people, apparently the large majority, at least in my circles, do not recognize. They literally cannot see my point of view. They cannot even imagine my point of view.

They believed all that they were told by Dr. Fauci & co., they took a bunch of "vaccines," they wore the masks, stuff happened, lock downs, all that, blah blah, and now it's over. They don't want to think about it. They certainly don't want to get within a country mile of discussing any of it. And they seem to think that, "if we act like it's not a thing, it's not a thing,"— not a thing for them, nor for anyone else either.

How very wrong they are.

Cetiosaurus

[slinky_weasel]

Let's face it. I'm not THAT different than before. I'm still me. I have a lot less trust now, in media, in my friends, in the society around me. And that sucks. But I also feel like it was some kind of test, and that I did well. I learned a greater measure of myself.