Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 188

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

My sister-in-law's (brother's wife) mother recently got diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia. Everyone in that part of my family is heavily vaxxed with Pfizer, and I suspect there is a connection.

Please share any online papers and report you came across about promising alternate cures and doctors proposing them. I do not know whether they will listen, but I can pass the information.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, I can’t offer any help, but just thought I’d share a gloomy story with you.

A friend, 75 but in great shape, got the latest “thing” in October 2023. In November he was diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia. In January 2024 he passed away. His wife, his twin brother, none of his other friends even come close to making a connection with the “thing” and it’s so frustrating. I’ve actually lost count of those I have known who are no longer with us.

I’ve read great things about fenbendazole and of course ivermectin. That’s what I would try if I was attempting to save someone. Good luck.

[(Anonymous)]

OP here. Sorry to hear about your friend.

"I’ve read great things about fenbendazole and of course ivermectin."

Yes, I sent a number of papers on these two potential cures to her. Here are the links in case anyone else needs references.

Fenbendazole on cancer -

https://ar.iiarjournals.org/content/44/9/3725

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3580766/

2018 paper on ivermectin and CML -

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323055288_Antibiotic_ivermectin_selectively_induces_apoptosis_in_chronic_myeloid_leukemia_through_inducing_mitochondrial_dysfunction_and_oxidative_stress

Links to many other papers on ivermectin working on various cancers -

https://www.truth11.com/untitled-1277/

[boccaccio]

I'm not a medical doctor, so the following is only for informational purposes.

There are quite a few resources for alternative / additional treatments of cancer. You can look at:
- dr Makis https://x.com/MakisMD
- the book Super Cancer Fighters by Bill Bodri https://www.amazon.com/Super-Cancer-Fighters-Supplement-Mainstream/dp/0615880142
- Joe Tippens protocol (based on Fenbendazol) https://www.faim.org/a-cure-for-cancer-hidden-in-plain-sight
- Florida Sharkman protocols (based on Ivermectin and Fenben or Meben) https://x.com/FLsharkman
- overview paper https://isom.ca/article/targeting-the-mitochondrial-stem-cell-connection-in-cancer-treatment-a-hybrid-orthomolecular-protocol/
- attempt on X to create an overview of various protocols and doses https://x.com/YayaQueenofBobo/status/1828185617823604781
- the posts of commenter Stubborn_ass on this forum. You can find those in the archives (He reported good results with IVM).

Some studies or summaries of studies
- https://x.com/MakisMD/status/1828024388580503589
- https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7505114/ (IVM)
- https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/oncology/articles/10.3389/fonc.2025.1490621/abstract (cannabis)
- https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2687140/ (Fenben + multi vitamins)
- a good introduction is on the youtube channel of dr John Campbell. He had 3 months ago 3 video's on IVM and Fenben against cancer.

PS I would recommend against just trying stuff. IVM can cause neurological issues, possibly due to impact on Gaba receptors. In some cases the issues are severe. Fenben also acts as a potassium blocker, so supplementing potassium can be necessary (e.g. eating avocado). Detox effects can be serious, so drinking a lot of water and extra support for liver and kidneys may be necessary. A binder is considered necessary.


It requires a lot of work to read all this and not all recommended supplements are easily available. For example, in Europe it will be very difficulty to obtain Ivermectin although if you identify as a horse you will find that the veterinarian version is about the same as the human one.


As for detox protocols, try FLCCC and worldcouncilforhealth.org.

PS Again, non of this is medical advice. It's only info. If in any doubt, please consult a licenced specialist.

[boccaccio]

I did a quick search for AML specific on some forums where people can report their stories. I came across this one

Fenbedazol 444mg morning and night, one day a week pauze
Curcumin
Milk Thistle, supplement dozes

My sister had acute myeloid leukemia, followed this treatment, since April, doing very well, no side effects
(posted on Sept 1)

Another commenter claimed succes against leukemia with MMS (Chlorine Dioxide).

On the other hand I also saw a comment that nothing helped. I guess it is trial and error.

[jdecandia]

I have posted here several times that I am an oncology nurse working in the heart of Silicok Valley and heavily interested in finding out more about these "alternative" treatments. Is there a book that preserves such knowledge or do I need to simply download all this information and print it out in the off chance that the internet is no longer available.

[boccaccio]

I don't know of such a book. I think if such a book would exist, it would be banned in a nano-second.
Internet going offline is imo not about if but when. I just download everything and keep it in a place outside the 'cloud'. You reminded me that I have to print it out someday soon too.

The advantage of having to organize this stuff yourself is that it helps with mastering the content. That at least is my attempt to make the lemon into lemonade.

[(Anonymous)]

"Silicok Valley"

Was the typo intentional?

[(Anonymous)]

Hi jdecandia, In case you or anyone else has not seen it, A Midwestern Doctor just posted a ginormous essay on DMSO and cancer treatment.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/hundreds-of-studies-show-dmso-transforms

Some detail is at the very end behind a paywall, but still, there's a lot to read that's not. I found it extremely interesting.

[transcriberb]

About the DMSO and cancer post by A Midwestern Doctor— someone in the comments section asked if there was a book and she answered that no, that's why she wrote the post.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you boccaccio

[(Anonymous)]

The FLCCC is now the Independent Medical Alliance (IMA):

https://imahealth.org/flccc-is-now-ima/

[fredsmith11]

Docuseries:

#1 TTAC The Truth About Cancer by The Bollingers.

#2 The more recent Cancer Decoded by Jonathan Otto.

www.brighteon.com or www.naturalnews.com would be good places to start searching for them.

[(Anonymous)]

Not sure if this would help, but I read an excellent book recently, Curing Cancer with Carrots by Ann Cameron. The author shares her story using conventional and natural treatment, along with the actual specific mechanisms that let carrot juice help mop up cancer. The author felt that chemo was wrong for her, and she got into remission without it, although she used other conventional cancer treatments. Chemo was pushed hard, even though it was unlikely to cure her or even extend her life in that case. She talks in level headed ways about making sensible choices for one’s own situation. A good read.