Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 176
Dec. 17th, 2024 10:53 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

So it's time for another open post. I have added a new rule (see below, #6):
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2024-12-17 04:23 pm (UTC)Ohh my… Fauci is one of the main villains of this century.
Not that is alone by any means.
A few things struck me (I’m only an 1/3 through the book)
-How is Fauci not in prison?
-Much of what has been negatively attributed to Trump and to Biden with regards to all things COVID is actually Fauci. Maybe better to say that “they” followed the dictates of Mr. The Science.
- Since the legal system is failing to protect the populace from this high level fuckery…we are going to see an increase in vigilantism.
- So called agendas to bring down world population drastically are starting to seem not so far fetched. Particularly Mr.S’s seeming obsession with gain of function research.
- lastly, I feel like I’m falling for another “to good to be true” government official in JFK. Could he be one of the best placements of a cabinet official for the actual betterment of society that I’ve ever seen?….or just another limited hangout?..
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Date: 2024-12-17 07:06 pm (UTC)Im just watching it unfold really..
seems to me trudeau has been in trouble for awhile but he somehow still seems to hang in there, so I dont really know if he will pull it off again or not.
I am guessing we will end up with pierre poilievre, i dont actually know a lot about him, and I certainly dont trust him.. but who else could it be?
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Date: 2024-12-17 05:22 pm (UTC)Big money in the US (and also western countries) would rather risk having horrific “adverse events” among the peons than risk losing money (bonds, stocks, commercial real estate, …)
As George Carlin once said about the oligarchs, "it’s a club … and you ain’t in it”. And to the oligarchs, anyone not in the club doesn’t matter in the slightest.
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Date: 2024-12-17 06:51 pm (UTC)Vaxxes were actively promoted as the only solution to get out of the mess, which makes me think that the "plandemic" explanation is more legitimate. The insiders used the opportunity to push as many questionable technologies as possible, because the public would be too scared to say no. Moreover, they also kept the public scared by using the media.
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Date: 2024-12-17 07:30 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/moderna-halts-mrna-rsv-vaccine-trial-children-after/
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Date: 2024-12-17 07:50 pm (UTC)Sam’s Club begins offering dangerous chemical abortion pills
https://www.lifesitenews.com/analysis/sams-club-begins-offering-dangerous-chemical-abortion-pills/
Argentinian study finds 55 undeclared elements in covid vaccine
Date: 2024-12-17 07:53 pm (UTC)Here is the abstract:
The experimental vaccines supposedly invented to combat COVID-19 were coercively forced upon the global population beginning late in 2020. They have precipitated innumerable and varied disease conditions ranging from mild to lethal. This increase in health disorders and sudden deaths began to manifest concomitantly with the number of people inoculated and doses administered per person. By the end of 2023, 24 undeclared chemical elements had been detected by Scanning Electron Microscopy Coupled with Energy-Dispersive X-Ray Spectroscopy (SEM-EDX), in the COVID-19 vaccines of the different brands, by various research groups from different countries around the world. In this paper, we report laboratory results from high precision Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass Spectrometry (ICP-MS) that confirm and expand previous results by SEM-EDX. To this end, the contents of vials from different lots of the brands AstraZeneca/Oxford, CanSino Biologics, Pfizer/BioNTech, Sinopharm, Moderna and Sputnik V were analyzed. Among the undeclared chemical elements were detected 11 of the 15 cytotoxic lanthanides used in electronic devices and optogenetics. In addition, among the undeclared elements were all 11 of the heavy metals: chromium was found in 100% of the samples; arsenic 82%; nickel 59%; cobalt and copper 47%; tin 35%; cadmium, lead and manganese in 18%; and mercury in 6%. A total of 55 undeclared chemical elements were found and quantified with ICP-MS. Combining these findings with results from SEM-EDX, altogether 62 undeclared chemical elements have been found in the various products. In all brands, we found boron, calcium, titanium, aluminum, arsenic, nickel, chromium, copper, gallium, strontium, niobium, molybdenum, barium and hafnium. With ICP-MS, we found that the content of the samples is heterogeneous, the elemental composition varies in different aliquots extracted from the same vial.
At Least 55 Undeclared Chemical Elements Found in COVID-19 Vaccines from AstraZeneca, CanSino, Moderna, Pfizer, Sinopharm and Sputnik V, with Precise ICP-MS
Re: Argentinian study finds 55 undeclared elements in covid vaccine
Date: 2024-12-17 09:57 pm (UTC)Stuff like boron and calcium could come from the glass vial. Varius metals could come from the stainless steel equipment the stuff was made it. Some amount of contamination of this kind is unavoidable, and these levels could probably be found in anything, if you look hard enough. That's why there are internationally accepted limits for how much there can be.
I couldn't say whether that makes it safe to inject the stuff into a human body. But if we're quibbling about this level of contamination, pretty much all injectable drugs would be suspect. I mean, it wouldn't be just these particular experimental gene therapies that are problematic.
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Date: 2024-12-17 08:18 pm (UTC)Kirillov gained international attention for investigating alleged U.S.-backed biolabs in Ukraine, claiming they were researching methods to spark a pandemic and frame Russia.
He publicly denounced COVID-19 as a man-made virus created by the U.S. government and exposed the involvement of vaccine giants Pfizer and Moderna in U.S. military and biological operations in Ukraine.
He went further and revealed that Hunter Biden’s Rosemont Seneca Investment Fund and the Soros Foundation were financing Ukrainian biolaboratories.
https://nitter.poast.org/ShadowofEzra/status/1869010577130926502#m
clip at link
and here is another article, within which is a story about him talking about the pandemic
SHOCK VIDEO: Ukraine Assassinates Russian Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Defense Chief, General Kirillov, in Moscow Bomb Blast in Major Escalation
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/shock-video-ukraine-assassinates-russian-nuclear-chemical-biological/
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Date: 2024-12-17 08:49 pm (UTC)If you are interested in reading back on the controversies of those decades - you can search around in the following two (rather dated looking, but informative) websites:
https://www.virusmyth.com/aids/
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https://www.rethinkingaids.com/
Interestingly the second of these mentions the intention of working up a HIV/AIDS informed critique of the Covid years. This introductory article lays it out.
https://www.rethinkingaids.com/index.php/introduction
I have yet to find the proposed follow up site, but there is a great deal to chew over in that one article.
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The fact is, our original suspicions were correct - there was no credible scientific evidence to support the claim that "HIV" caused "AIDS", and 35 years later. there still isn't any evidence. That may be shocking to hear, but it's true.
Fast forward nearly forty years to "Covid-19", and what does one find? The same scare tactics, the same contradictions, the same wrong predictions, the same bogus tests, the same deadly treatment approach, all this but more global, more coordinated, and even more socially destructive. And the General leading the charge? Anthony Fauci.
A central function of the new Rethinking AIDS/Unmasking Covid is to expose for all to see, this profound relationship between "Covid-19" and "HIV/AIDS". As the original "AIDS dissidents", we are uniquely equipped for the task.
But this time it's different.
Back in the 1980's, we felt scientifically obliged to give Fauci et al the benefit of the doubt, i.e., to assume that he and the advocates for the HIV/AIDS hypothesis simply committed a major scientific error. However, the fact that with "Covid-19" they have made the exact same error, but on a scale a thousand times larger, means neither "HIV/AIDS" nor "Corona/Covid" were errors; they were both highly organized and fully premeditated marketing devices.
The goal of science is the truth. The goal of marketing is the sale. "HIV/AIDS" and "Corona/Covid" were not discovered; they were sold, primarily through fear and lies of omission. Their function was to guarantee lucrative government contracts for Fauci's drug and vaccine industry projects. It's that simple!
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And by the way, in my view the phrase used here - "The goal of science is the truth. The goal of marketing is the sale" - is a real keeper. Because "making the sale" is an excellent description of the pressure placed upon people both to buy, and also to ask no questions.
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Date: 2024-12-17 11:51 pm (UTC)I am reminded of "To Serve Man", a science fiction short story by Damon Knight (1950) and the basis for an episode of 'Twilight Zone' (1962). Corporate malfeasance, while nothing new and widespread among all or nearly all industries and institutions, seems to be getting worse and becoming evermore opportunistic, with ever fewer accessible protections for the vast majority of people. "Profits before people" is disguised as "We here to help".
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Date: 2024-12-18 06:33 pm (UTC)But this must surely happen if criminals feel themselves to be invulnerable - why show any restraint or subtlety?
It is worth reflecting that not one of the perpetrators has been or is ever likely to be punished: most have in fact been promoted to higher office or lucrative sinecures, and loaded with honours, prizes and praise.
The UK for instance, has a fine array of newly-minted knights, dames and lords who have risen on a pile of corpses......
Old WW1 song comes to mind:
'I know where the general is, I've seen him, I've seen him: pinning another medal on his chest' '
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Date: 2024-12-18 12:45 am (UTC)https://www.newsweek.com/russia-launch-free-cancer-vaccine-2025-2001432
..its kind of too bad, really.. ppl wont trust a vax much now.. and this one might actually work..
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Date: 2024-12-18 04:42 am (UTC)Here is an article about it: https://ronchapman.substack.com/p/marin-county-defies-cdc-vaccine-schedule
Correlation is not causation, of course. Still, autism rates didn't go down anywhere else during those years.
The surge in autism in my highly vaccinated area of Chicagoland is scary. I have been here all my life. There truly are more autists, and it is not just a matter of diagnosis being more common or accurate. What happens when autistic adults who are not high functioning like me lose their parents due to age and infirmity? These adults are perpetual adolescents who will never be emotionally mature. They are not equipped to cook and clean for themselves, let alone hold down a full time job and pay rent or a mortgage. Though the nursing home system is waiting to swallow them, I don't think that is good at all, because nursing homes are already a race to the bottom and are most of the way there.
Lately I've had haunting visions of the future. Of course they could be complete figments of my imagination; I won't know until I get there. At any rate, I think health insurance and perhaps insurance in general will be illegal somewhere down the road, like in 100 years. Same thing goes for vaccines. Anyone caught selling or pushing these things will be punished... harshly.
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Date: 2024-12-18 02:59 pm (UTC)All other insurance is a scam, always has been, always will be. In any case, don't throw all the baby out with the bathwater.
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Date: 2024-12-18 03:41 pm (UTC)That was me. Glad it helped. I don't like the stuff, but was happy to taste and smell. Rooby Alien
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Date: 2024-12-18 01:34 pm (UTC)No explanation is given, so here are my 2 cts
First, the 2 years of low mortality are no big surprise as usual causes of death for youngsters like accidents were expected to be lower due to the lockdowns. 2022 could have seen a bit higher mortality due to kids re-adjusting to the new situation and perhaps a reverse pull forward effect (I'll call it "push backward effect"). 16% is still quite high but not concernimng.
The high mortality in 2023 is the banger. This should really have caught the attention of authorities if their prime concern was the health of the population.
What could be the cause? A few things to keep in mind:
- As far as I know hardly anyone in this agegroup (1-14 yrs) has been vaxxed
- Yet the mentioned cause of circulatory disease is a well known side effect of the vax while diabetes was also mentioned in a study of the Chinese (inactivated virus) vax. Spike is also known to cause various organ failures.
- The Corona virus can also cause these effects
So possible explanations:
1. The vax makes an unknown part of the population tolerant of the virus (the IgG4 thing). This means more virus is going around
2. Even in the case of a mild infection, the T-cells are being attacked and it will take several months before the old level is reached again. In the meantime one is more vulnerable for other infections. This could indirectly contribute as a weakened immune system makes one vulnerable for many ailments
3. Shedding of spike is now proven, but we don't know how much it happens. Regular exposure to spike could very well lead to increased mortality.
4. McKernans research showed that DNA fragments in mRNA vaccins can enter the nucleus and integrate into the genome. This means that uncontrolled genetic manipulation of humans is now a reality. It is possible that this leads to cases of superspreading and that could be especially devastating for people with naive immune systems (aka youngsters).
5. It is also possible (if not scientifically proven) that the DNA fragments are being shedded and can lead to spike production in unvaxxed people. This is also true for cancer enhancing SV-40 that was included in the Pfizer jab.
Re: Youth mortality
Date: 2024-12-18 01:58 pm (UTC)So for practical purposes I assume that 0% age 1-12 and 55% age 12 and 13 got the jab. The weighted average is thus (12*0+2*0,55)/14 = 8% of kids 1-14 yrs got at least 1 jab
Yet there is more. The youngest child included in the 2023 statistic was 13 at 2023-12-31. At 2021-12-31 (very close to the mentioned date of 2022-01-09) the same child would have been 11. So the 2023 excess mortality statistic will include only a very limited amount of vaxxed children. Ed Dowd suggests that the vax is directly responsible for the mortality, but that is not the case imo. Other, more indirect explanations are in my OP
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Date: 2024-12-18 03:17 pm (UTC)Do you have any thoughts on your most recent ingress for the US suggesting an epidemic with a feverish nature. I seem to remember the last time anything like this was suggested 'in the stars' was late 2019 and it was my first realisation that there might just be something to this astrology stuff.
I say this given there doesn't seem to be the same in your post for London for the next little while and covid appears to be quickly rising again in the US, apparently unexpected by those who predict these things. It does slightly concern me that the only difference is the US went straight for the mRNA jabs while here in the UK they were only brought in after most of the population had 2 lots of the Astrazeneca jab and this after quite a few people had the infection from October 2019 (it was here earlier than most acknowledge). This could indicate the first heavily mRNA influenced versions of Sars-CoV-2, with potential rising virulence and chronic illness issues.
Rintrah covers most of the reasons for this here in his latest post:
https://www.rintrah.nl/how-the-innate-immune-system-manages-to-cope-with-antibody-resistant-sars2-varieties/
'How the innate immune system manages to cope with antibody resistant SARS2 varieties'
Of course what the title implies is that those with compromised innate immunity, many because of ill thought through jabs given to a naive population, will not cope well.
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Date: 2024-12-18 03:20 pm (UTC)This allows for vaccine and mask mandates, vaccine passports, intentional emergency powers, gain of function research.
It also created BARDA, the agencies responsible for mRNA/GOF research.
https://nitter.poast.org/nataliegwinters/status/1869380689747140903#m
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Date: 2024-12-18 03:24 pm (UTC)The full study results were obtained via a FOIA request because Pfizer and the health authorities won't voluntarily disclose it. You're about to find out why.
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/pfizers-own-study-shows-their-covid
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Date: 2024-12-18 03:29 pm (UTC)The rules of the game for cancer treatment is significantly different than mass vaccination and the risk window is wide open.
Just to make certain that everyone knows that the technology isn't the problem, but how the technology is applied.
My experience says taking mRNA is a chancy thing and needs to be calibrated to risk assessments. The Rona was an inappropriate use.
What I am concerned about now is the desire to lump all health issues into the "long covid" category and ascribe health issues solely to the vaxx. There are so damn many confounding variables in this mess that sorting it out will probably take decades if it is possible at all.
I spent twenty years in research (virology/immunology now thankfully retired) and I tremble when I think about cause and effect for the mess that we have had dumped in our laps.
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Date: 2024-12-18 06:17 pm (UTC)That’s a bold statement and seems a bit… unprovable. Though I suppose no different from “guns don’t kill people, it’s how the guns are applied that’s the problem”?
Except this time, this is tech tinkering with complex systems we don’t fully understand. Pardon me if I don’t join your group of “everyone” who _needs_ to “know” what you think I need to know.
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Date: 2024-12-18 04:10 pm (UTC)Qantas has agreed to pay $120 million in compensation to more than 1,800 workers who were illegally sacked during the COVID-19 pandemic following a lengthy court battle.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/qantas-agrees-to-pay-120m-to-more-than-1800-illegally-outsourced-former-workers-after-settlement-with-transport-workers-union/news-story/0bd6946274f06a207e31322158d182d2
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Date: 2024-12-18 04:24 pm (UTC)https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14200755/nhs-doctor-scaremongering-covid-vaccine-conspiracy-struck-off.html
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Date: 2024-12-19 07:56 am (UTC)These days, that's a badge of honor. As a general rule, you can consider that physicians have split into two groups: the competent, honest ones on the one hand; and those who have retained their licenses on the other.
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Date: 2024-12-18 06:59 pm (UTC)If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or in the comments at the current prayer list post.
This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.
May Peter Van Erp's friend Kate Bowden's husband Russ Hobson and his family be enveloped with love as he follows his path forward with the glioblastoma (brain cancer) which has afflicted him.
May Kyle's friend Amanda, who though in her early thirties just passed away from brain cancer, make her transition through the afterlife process with grace and peace.
May Daedalus/ARS receive guidance and finish his kundalini awakening, and overcome the neurological and qi and blood circulation problems that have kept him largely immobilised for several years; may the path toward achieving his life's work be cleared of obstacles.
May David/Trubrujah's 5 year old nephew Jayce, who is starting chemotherapy for leukemia on Monday 12/9, be healed quickly and fully, and may he, and mother Amanda, and their family find be aided with physical, mental, and emotional strength while they deal with this new life altering situation.
May baby Gigi, continue to gain weight and strength, and continue to heal from a possible medication overdose which her mother Elena received during pregnancy, and may Elena be blessed and healed from the continuing random tremors which ensued; may Gigi's big brother Francis continue to be in excellent health and be blessed.
May Jennifer, whose pregnancy has entered its third trimester, have a safe and healthy pregnancy, may the delivery go smoothly, and may her baby be born healthy and blessed.
May Charlie the cat, who has been extremely sick and vomiting but whose owners can't afford an expensive vet visit, be blessed, protected, and healed.
May Scotlyn's friend Fiona, who has been in hospital since early October with what is a diagnosis of ovarian cancer, be blessed and healed, and encouraged in ways that help her to maintain a positive mental and spiritual outlook.
May Annette have a successful resolution for her kidney stones, and a safe and easy surgery to remove the big one blocking her left kidney.
May Peter Evans in California, who has been diagnosed with colon cancer, be completely healed with ease, and make a rapid and total recovery.
May Jennifer and Josiah, their daughter Joanna, and their unborn daughter be protected from all harmful and malicious influences, and may any connection to malign entities or hostile thought forms or projections be broken and their influence banished.
May Ram, who is facing major challenges both legal and emotional with a divorce and child custody dispute, be blessed with the clarity of thought, positive energy, and the inner strength to continue to improve the situation.
May FJay peacefully birth a healthy baby at home with her loved ones. May her postpartum period be restful and full of love and support. May her older child feel surrounded by her love as he adapts to life as a big brother and may her marriage be strengthened during this time.
May all living things who have suffered as a consequence of Hurricanes Helene and Milton be blessed, comforted, and healed.
May Giulia (Julia) in the Eastern suburbs of Cleveland Ohio be healed of recurring seizures and paralysis of her left side and other neurological problems associated with a cyst on the right side of her brain and with surgery to treat it.
May Corey Benton, whose throat tumor has grown around an artery and won't be treated surgically, be healed of throat cancer.
Lp9's hometown, East Palestine, Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people, animals and all living beings in and around East Palestine, and to improve the natural environment there to the benefit of all.
Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.
If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
Re: Ecosophia Prayer List
Date: 2024-12-19 02:07 am (UTC)Re: Ecosophia Prayer List
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Date: 2024-12-18 07:38 pm (UTC)Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus
The WHO Academy heralds the dawn of a bold vision for global health
Our new institution will equip health and care workers, policymakers and the WHO workforce with the skills to deliver health for all
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/who-academy-world-health-organization-tedros-adhanom-ghebre/
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Date: 2024-12-19 05:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2024-12-18 07:44 pm (UTC)We’re funding bioweapon labs in this bill!
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1869459369559224802
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Date: 2024-12-18 07:49 pm (UTC)Health authorities have identified a previously unknown disease as severe malaria
https://www.rt.com/africa/609534-drc-discovers-cause-mystery-illness/
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Date: 2024-12-19 05:34 am (UTC)