Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 170
Nov. 5th, 2024 09:56 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2024-11-05 03:06 pm (UTC)Question for the commentariat: Just how closely will you be following the elections? What will be your sources?
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Date: 2024-11-05 04:02 pm (UTC)these ppl know pres trump, a lot of them do..
so they have more inside baseball as it were
and they feature ppl that are on top of any fraud etc
https://rumble.com/c/BannonsWarRoom?duration=long
ps im canadian lol
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Date: 2024-11-05 03:19 pm (UTC)https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-is-sugar-the-deadliest-white-powder-drug/
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Date: 2024-11-05 04:03 pm (UTC)New York Authorities Announce Peanut The Squirrel Died Of COVID
https://babylonbee.com/news/new-york-authorities-announce-peanut-the-squirrel-died-of-covid
(though there is nothing really funny about it)
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Date: 2024-11-05 04:05 pm (UTC)Ambassador Pamela Hamamoto dropped a "bomb" on the WHO's proposed "Pandemic Agreement" by proposing that it instead be adopted as amendments to the International Health Regulations.
https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/boom
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Date: 2024-11-05 05:03 pm (UTC)This is a "flood gate" moment
Brianne Dressen was seriously injured when she was a trail participant in Astra Zeneca Covid vaccine trial.
She is now trying to sue Astra Zeneca for breech of contract.
AZ abandoned her when she sustained permanent injuries.
They offered her $1200 in total as full and final compensation.
Astra Zeneca applied to the court for the motion against them to be dismissed.
THE COURT HAS DENIED THEIR APPLICATION AND THE TRIAL WILL PROCEED
(link in comments)
https://nitter.poast.org/HopeRising19/status/1853605673382392209#m
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Date: 2024-11-05 07:54 pm (UTC)More info at Laura Kasner's Substack:
https://laurakasner.substack.com/p/opportunity-to-ask-questions-of-embalmer
Some transcripts
Date: 2024-11-05 08:18 pm (UTC)One is Lousiana Attorney Gneeral Jeff Landry, a Rpeublican, (who has since become governor of the state), advising the legilsators that covid mandates are illegal, and then turning over his allotted time to speak to RFK, Jr., who was at that time still a prominent member of the Democratic Party. For those unfamiliar with US politics, up until the covid vax mandates, RFK was considered a mover-and-shaker in the Democratic party. That in itself-- that in 2021 a powerful Republican AG was telling his state legislators to listen to RFK, Jr.-- is earth-shaking.
The second video is RFK Jr's speech to the legislators. Of note, Dr. Robert Malone is in the audience and he helps RFK change the posterboards that are part of his presentation.
RFK's main message is that healthy children are not at risk of dying of covid, the jabs are experimental, and, according to Pfizer's own data, the jabs are neither safe nor effective, and, moreover, mandating these injections would be a violation of the Nuremberg Code.
My Substack provides some screenshots and all the relevant links (to the transcripts in dreamwidth, and to the source videos):
"I would encourage you to closely listen to the man seated next to me"—AG Jeff Landry Introduces RFK Jr (After Schooling the Louisiana Legislature on the Law)
https://transcriberb.substack.com/p/i-would-encourage-you-to-closely
Transcript of a shadow-banned video of 2021
"In a society that we're proud of, we do not tell children to take risks to preserve old people"— Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Addresses Louisiana State Legislators with Damning Pfizer Data
https://transcriberb.substack.com/p/in-a-society-that-were-proud-of-we
Transcript of a shadow-banned video of 2021
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Other recent posts include:
"I am willing to lose my safety and security, my house, everything, for my freedom. And I want you to think about that"— Covid RN Tori Jensen Films Herself Being Escorted Out of the Hospital
Transcript of a censored video of 2021
https://transcriberb.substack.com/p/i-am-willing-to-lose-my-safety-and
Note: This one of Tori Jensen I originally transcribed for this forum a couple of years ago. The video has been heavily, heavily censored. I finally found it copied on an obscure Tiktok account. I find that the video sometimes plays and sometimes doesn't.
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"We are at the beginning of fighting back against this totalitarian control"— Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s Address to Health Freedom Ireland
Transcript of a censored video of 2022
https://transcriberb.substack.com/p/we-are-at-the-beginning-of-fighting
Note: This one I really appreciated as RFK so clearly, briefly, and engagingly, spells out the many violations to the US Constitution. There it all is in a nutshell.
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"I hope this is helpful"— Frontline RN Gina Speaks Out in '21 in the Delaware Freedom Alliance Town Meeting About What's She's Seen After the Jabs Roll Out
Transcript of a censored video of 2021
https://transcriberb.substack.com/p/i-hope-this-is-helpful-frontline
Note: Of course this should have been front page news, not something someone like me stumbles upon in late 2024. It aligns with other 2021 testimonies from nurses in Australia, Ireland, US, and elsewhere. I would say it is historically very important testimony.
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Date: 2024-11-06 07:56 am (UTC)Pure gold.
Love that meme
Date: 2024-11-05 08:19 pm (UTC)Cheers
Mitochondrial Imbalance Linked To 90 Percent Of Chronic Diseases
Date: 2024-11-05 09:10 pm (UTC)https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/mitochondrial-imbalance-linked-90-percent-chronic-diseases
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Date: 2024-11-06 10:20 am (UTC)He also calls for mre research into this fascinating area. I believe Midwestern Doctor has also written about this work.
https://naviauxlab.ucsd.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/NaviauxHealingCycle_2018_v2.pdf
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Date: 2024-11-06 08:09 am (UTC)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AHJc8D-7Vg
Not good!
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Will the fun begin?
Date: 2024-11-06 03:14 pm (UTC)But, having been wrong so many times before, this might be another of my pipe dreams.
Now we have to see what Trump puts together as a transition team and what will be happening with the trials in NY and GA.
Things got some distance to go before the situation plays out. The play isn't over just yet.
John Michael: If you don't publish, that's OK....
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Date: 2024-11-06 04:17 pm (UTC)I recently joined Twitter and much to my surprise, despite my rampant and total distaste for social media, I'm enjoying getting to keep up with the things people are publicly thinking. Anyway, I came across a page called "Reddit Lies" which had just assembled a collection of liberals disparaging Latinos - one post even said "Latinos [expletive]ing disgust me".
The apparent instantaneous switch into the sort of white supremacy JMG's been saying would be embraced by that side seems to have arrived overnight!
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Date: 2024-11-06 05:41 pm (UTC)I strongly recommend that the members of this form take a look at this video. It is what we have wanted to hear over the past 4 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gllSIHpZMaw
Liam in Toronto
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Date: 2024-11-06 08:22 pm (UTC)Sources tell me top five CEOs of pharmaceutical companies are holding an emergency teleconference at 1 PM.
A lawyer has confirmed that everyone is in a state of panic!
https://nitter.poast.org/jamelholley/status/1854184692402061588#m
fwiw..
..but, i wouldnt be surprised either..
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Date: 2024-11-07 04:55 pm (UTC)RFK Jr on vaxxes
Date: 2024-11-06 08:26 pm (UTC)Sidenote: RFK Jr/CHD spent 14 years pursuing Fauci via FOIs and eventually the courts to get the FDA/CDC to release the safety studies on vaxxes. When Fauci finally conceded to the legal process and agreed to release the safety studies . . . there were NONE. Zilch, nada.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.:
"I just want to make this clear. I don't want to take vaccines away from people. I don't want to impose my choices on the American public. If vaccines are working for you, you ought to be able to get them. And I'll make sure that happens. But people should have informed choice. So they should have good science that tells them the cost and the benefits of these products, particularly since they're being ordered to use them."
"76 million kids a year are required to use them. and they're healthy children. So it's the only medical product that's given to healthy people. You want a product like that to be extra solid, to make sure there's no risk, because you can take, you know, there's certain risks that you'll take if you're sick to get better. Of course. But if you're not sick, and you shouldn't be required to take a product unless it is iron-clad, unless you know what the... you know, what all the costs and benefits are."
"And the problem with vaccines is that they were originally introduced by the Public Health Service, which is one of the five military services. That's why there's a surgeon general. And the Public Health Service introduced them and pushed them as a national security defense against biological attacks on our country. So they wanted to make sure that if the Russians attacked us with anthrax with some other biological agent They could quickly formulate a vaccine and then deploy it to 220 million American civilians without regulatory impediments."
"A normal Medical product takes about eight years to get to market because it has to go through double-blind placebo controlled trials And you need to see long-term effects. There are many effects On every medical product that have long diagnostic horizons long incubation periods They didn't want to go through that because they said it's going to be a national emergency. So instead of calling it a medicine, we're going to call it a biologic and we're going to exempt biologics from pre-licensing safety studies."
"So there's no vaccine on that schedule, that 72 vaccines, that has ever gone through a pre-licensing safety study placebo-controlled trial against a real placebo. And that's wrong because that means that nobody knows what the risk profiles are on these products. And nobody can tell you whether that product is averting more problems than it's causing."
"And what I will do, you know, if I'm given this job in the White House, is I'll make sure that those studies get done, that there are people on the panels that approve these products that are not loaded with conflicts of interest. So it's real science. disinterested people and that doctors and patients and Americans know exactly what the costs and benefits of every vaccine are and can make a rational decision."
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Date: 2024-11-07 07:16 pm (UTC)This is preaching to the choir here, of course, but I'm still baffled and disappointed this wasn't the default position of every Western democracy from the beginning. It's such a common-sense reasonable way to handle it in a free society this should be a no-brainer. This European still wishes Kennedy could have been your President-Elect.
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Date: 2024-11-06 09:04 pm (UTC)I had a phone call with someone who I owed a call-back (oh, how I wish I'd done it early yesterday!) who began the conversation by stating that he is horribly "depressed" before launching into a tirade about how the American people just elected a tyrant who will become a dictator for life and food is going to become unaffordable and he'll lose his access to healthcare and the medicine he needs to live and the country is doomed and he's afraid to go to red states because he might get killed and - holy moly. It's not just him, I'm also getting work-related emails with people editorializing about how "sickened" they are and blah blah, and someone announced that there won't be a 250th Anniversary of the US in 2026 because the country won't be here then.
I know this isn't EXACTLY covid related, but it feels similar, like I just woke up in an asylum (or at least, having to interact with the asylum) to discover the inmates in charge again.
Four more years of TDS. Guess I'm back to smiling and nodding and repeating platitudes and "I understand everyone is upset [including me, because this is nuts] but we DO have to discuss the project..." (The only bright spot is that my work is mostly freelance, so I don't spend a TON of time around these people. But I'm already dreading this Friday's in-person meeting...I have to remember that I'm an anthropologist studying an indigenous religious cult, lol.)
A portion of the population has been made so crazy by mass media - with covid and TDS being two sides of the same coin, imo - that I really worry about them. How are they going to survive the next four years?
And, for what it's worth, I'm still wondering if there is something not entirely mundane about covid mania and TDS. These people seem to have brain viruses or be under malign influences or something. Maybe just the "magic" of mass media, but whatever it is, it's a potent "drug".
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Date: 2024-11-06 10:28 pm (UTC)During a parliamentary debate on pandemic preparedness she revealed that on assuming her role as minister she had had to consent to be bound by agreements made by the previous government with NATO (yes, that NATO) to be coordinated by the NCTV (Dutch national coordinator for combatting terrorism and security).
This was the setup during the scamdemic and explains why the lockdowns, masks and push for jabs looked the same in nearly every country. Sweden did things differently but then that country wasn’t a member of NATO at the time.
Predictably, most MPs yawned at this revelation and the MSM ignored it completely. Apparently they are not at all concerned that an external undemocratic body has the power to dictate policy to the government.
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Date: 2024-11-08 11:07 am (UTC)Evaluating Egon Fischer
Date: 2024-11-06 11:48 pm (UTC)Since the military has sworn an oath to uphold the constitution, they would be justified in rolling some tanks and troops up to the White House lawn and the Capitol and saying to the intransigent Democrats and Deep-Staters, "You will abide by the results of this election." While they would be upholding the Constitution, the military involving itself with the workings of the civilian government would likely set a precedent that would change things forever. Recall that Egon said that there will be a new energy in the wake of this election that will bring about the end of the United States as we have known it.
So if this turns out to be another ho-hum transition of power with the possible exception of a few orchestrated riots in some big blue cities (which law-enforcement is likely to be less inclined to tolerate this time, I tend to think), then I will probably become very dubious about Egon's prognostications.
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Date: 2024-11-07 12:24 am (UTC)https://globalnews.ca/news/10856881/kamala-harris-concession-speech/
She did concede, but there is precedent for a Democratic candidate taking a concession back, and looking at the speech as a whole it is not a speech from someone who is finished. If some pretense comes up (or can be fabricated), I could easily see them trying something like that...
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Date: 2024-11-07 12:59 am (UTC)If this has happened, we could be looking at a more dramatic transformation in the months ahead than I anticipated.
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Date: 2024-11-07 01:27 am (UTC)https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/obamas-flee-the-country-on-private-jet.651013/
That references this post on Twitter/x:
https://x.com/i/web/status/1854255955732562144
That in turn quotes a post from "NJ Assemblyman Jamel Holley". I went to Holley's Twitter feed and I found the referenced post, dated 10:32 pm yesterday - https://x.com/jamelholley/status/1854019029536493955.
On his feed he claims to be an advisor to RFK Jr.
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Date: 2024-11-07 02:03 am (UTC)--Joel Salatin
https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/11/6/2024/celebration
(hyperventilating with excitement)
I know that's not directly covid related but hear me out because it totally is: if Trump can make Massie and Salatin in charge of the USDA, this is a huge, huge, huge indicator that we might see the various federal health agencies treated in like radical fashion.
Please somebody tell me there's been an announcement on Sec. of Health and/or FDA...
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Date: 2024-11-07 04:43 am (UTC)Salatin in charge of the USDA?!?
Anyone not familiar with the guy, please look him up. His answer to corporate agriculture is about as close as one can get to the old appropriate tech movement with any hopes of making it mainstream.
Please say this is true. I would be overjoyed to pray for his safety and success if he is appointed.
Massie looks to have some serious integrity too. Here's hoping the Republic has another chance.
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From:Dam Busters
Date: 2024-11-07 08:21 am (UTC)I have lost count of how many times people have said that the dam blocking the truth coming out on the covid vaccines is about to burst. Many brave people have tried to blow this dam like Dr Campbell, Aseem Malhotra, Robert Malone, Andrew Bridgen, Naomi Wolf etc, I could make quite a lot list of names which would include David Icke, who got it right about the vaccines right from the start. Yes I know the blokes a nutter, but it is one of the absurdities of this whole shale show that you would have been better off getting your medical advice about the vaccines from David Icke than the medical profession. These héro’s succeeded in blowing holes in the dam and warning many of us about the situation, but they didn’t stand a chance of bringing that dam down and there is a simple reason for that. Pretty much the whole of the establishment (Medical, media, politicians etc.) have become stake holders in keeping the dam intact because they are all implicated in promoting the vaccines, and implementing the mandates and passports. Rowing back on this will be pretty difficult when your income, freedom or neck might depend on maintaining the lie. And its not just the establishment, much of the population have also become stake holders in maintaining the dam because they have taken the jabs and admitting that you or your children have been given something that could be dangerous to you is a hard things to do.
However, RFK is the one DAM BUSTER who can blow that dam to pieces and send out a tidal wave of truth that will drown the establishment, MSM and big Pharma. He has the knowledge of a Barnes Wallace to construct a Bouncing Bomb that will bounce over the torpedo nets, sink just before the dam wall and blow it to smithereens. He has also got the daring do of Guy Gibson to to fly his Lancaster through he flak and release his bomb on target. I am sure he will look wonderful in his RAF uniform flying boots and Mae West.
If he is put into post by Trump I will be humming the Dam Busters March. I don’t like Trump, and for some strange reason I have real trust issues with politicians so am am not sure whether Trump will follow up with his promises. I really do need to see a psychiatrist about. But if Trump really does follow up on his promises then I might start to support him. RFK has some really progressive, liberal policies. Anyway here is the Dam Busters March for every one to hum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K32Adi8nmzA
Jasmine
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Date: 2024-11-08 09:38 pm (UTC)You might enjoy the third meme or 'cartoon.'
I do not know how to separate them as they are in one linked comment. But scroll a tiny bit for the 3rd of 3.
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/forums/topic/debt-rattle-november-8-2024/#post-173777
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2024-11-09 03:51 am (UTC) - ExpandStorm
Date: 2024-11-07 12:22 pm (UTC)My divination was cautiously optimistic also. Tarot offered, The Tower, nine of pentacles, two of cups, with Justice above. Disruption/calamity, counting ones blessings, reconciliation, equitable justice in process.
All to say, the Wlmrayth are indeed moiling about and love, understanding and patience may be the only sane way through this. Pray and speak accordingly.
Gawain
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Date: 2024-11-07 04:08 pm (UTC)https://www.zerohedge.com/political/after-trump-win-rfk-jr-says-entire-departments-fda-have-go
At a Madison Square Garden rally last month, Trump reiterated that he would have Kennedy join his administration and “let him go wild on health.”
“I’m going to let him go wild on the food. I’m going to let him go wild on the medicines,” Trump said.
During the Al Smith dinner that Trump attended last month, he again floated Kennedy as leading his administration’s efforts around food and health.
“We’re going to let him go wild for a little while, then I’m going to have to maybe reign him back, because he’s got some pretty wild ideas, but most of them are really good,” Trump said during the New York City dinner.
“I think he’s a he’s a good man, and he believes, he believes the environment, the healthy people. He wants healthy people, he wants healthy food. And he’s going to do it. He’s going to have a big chance to do it, because we do need that.”
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Date: 2024-11-08 04:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2024-11-07 04:33 pm (UTC)Anyone who finds a monkey should not interact with it but instead call 911, authorities said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/monkeys-escape-alpha-genesis-research-facility-south-carolina-rcna179077
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Date: 2024-11-09 03:49 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2024-11-07 04:34 pm (UTC)https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/astrazeneca-chinas-investigation-into-exec-separate-medical-insurance-probe-2024-11-06/