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rememberWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: I have "a tentative hypothesis"

Date: 2024-10-11 12:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm actually afraid to tell somebody what they did to their kids. Not afraid they will 'take it out on me' but afraid to push them into that harrowing realization. Maybe I'm 'codependent' I don't know.

How though do you walk that back? That guilt.


Re: I have "a tentative hypothesis"

Date: 2024-10-11 02:41 pm (UTC)
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Me, I wouldn't say anything to a parent, unless they directly, genuinely, and insistently asked me. (Newsflash to self: don't think that's ever going to happen.)

Much as it pains me, much as I think their getting their kids injected was an appalling mistake, and that they could have and should have asked more questions and done whatever, literally whatever they needed to do in order to avoid injecting the kids with this EUA gene juice, I stand back because parents' choices about their children's medical care are the parents' to make. Other than my spouse's, and those individuals under my direct care, other people's personal medical histories are not my business.

That said, I do what I can with my transcripts and leaving literature here & there. And I have posted many transcripts of doctors, nurses, and others speaking out against jabbing the kids, and also of parents speaking out about their childrens' deaths and injuries following the covid jabs.

The people who are open to data and information other than what they get spoon-fed on TV, and who are genuinely asking even the most basic questions, I trust they will find what they need to find (perhaps one of my transcripts, more likely something else) without overmuch ado. After all, RFK Jr's book, THE REAL ANTHONY FAUCI, totally and throughly and very deliberately ignored by the mainstream media, has sold over a million copies. There is now a whole library's worth of counter-narrative books that one can easily download or, as a paperback, get shipped from amazon.com or from any one or many other online booksellers. Plus there are a gazillion Substacks and bitchute and odysee and rumble videos, and avalanches of counter-narrative info on "X."

The people who don't want to know, they won't ask questions, they won't look for data and information, and well, they get their karma with that. It's theirs.

But what do I know of other peoples' karma? I actually think it's beyond my currently incarnated human ability to see more than a micro-slice of someone else's karma.

As for their possibly crushing feelings of guilt: My view is, sad as it may be, that's their problem to grapple with, and to come to terms with, if they can. Some can. Some probably can't.

I don't think anyone gets through even kindergarten without having done something they regret. Learning to cope with regret and guilt is part of life. As life goes on, it presents one with more opportunities to do stuff one will regret and feel guilty about. One learns to avoid those actions, or, sometimes, alas, one doesn't. Seems to me it's better to learn the easy way (see other people do stupid shale, then, don't do that) and when not (oops, big mistake), learn to make it right, learn to avoid in in the future, learn to come to terms with feelings about it, and learn to forgive oneself.

We're all on the learning curve in life, and maybe it's not where we think we are.

Thanks for the prompt to order my thoughts on this subject.

Re: I have "a tentative hypothesis"

Date: 2024-10-11 02:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] transcriberb
I should add, I don't have grandkids; if I did, in 2021-2022 I would have urged the parents to avoid jabbing the kids. But I know that many grandparents did that and it made no difference, such was the madness.

Re: I have "a tentative hypothesis"

Date: 2024-10-11 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for this prism-like approach to the subject.
I'll just tell myself I instinctively 'knew' a few of the things you explore. :-)

My siblings have never asked me a single question but sure had fun mocking the Canadian truckers
from a PMC perspective.

We're all on the learning curve in life, and maybe it's not where we think we are.
I think this is without a doubt true.

Re: I have "a tentative hypothesis"

Date: 2024-10-12 01:54 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
with this: "Thanks for the prompt to order my thoughts on this subject."

You have fulfilled my greatest wish. Real thought. the greatest thing we have to offer.

~Wolf

Re: I have "a tentative hypothesis"

Date: 2024-10-12 01:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
EXACTELY!!!!!!

They/we cannot face that guilt. Which was my point. the events are just cover to keep us bickering and not focusing on the ACTUAL issue.

~Wolf

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