Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 166
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ecosophia
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
I have "a tentative hypothesis"
Date: 2024-10-09 02:08 pm (UTC)Which gave us warp speed, masking (talk to somebody who does asbestos abatement about whether a mask attached to the ears can do what they told us they could) and arbitrary distancing.
What followed was a new President (JMG, you made the comment at the time that if Dems owned the vaccine and it went badly...) with mRNA vaccines.
Reports began to appear of SAE's (serious adverse events), which the media called "conspiracy theories".
But the hits kept on coming, women's periods, died suddenly, athletic heart attacks, youth heart attacks, turbo cancer... etc etc.
THEN February of 2021 (when the media was looking REALLY bad regarding COVID) RUSSIA, in an "UNPROVOKED" attack... Somebody at the time (I can't find the link) said President Putin should be awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine for curing COVID overnight. And, remember, all talk in the media switched to our glorious war against, I think we're on... (Switching rationales get tuff to remember), let's go with Authoritarianism, No, No Autocratic governments.
Now, our "Glorious War with WHATEVER" has not gone well. If you have been paying attention it has NEVER gone well but it has been going.
Recently “The Media” has noticed (apparently much against its will) that Ukraine is in deep dodo.
MEANWHILE: More and more information about the mRNA vaccines and their side effects has been dribbling out. Even a brief perusal of this series of threads demonstrates that. Additionally, the broader public seems to be getting some of this information, not a lot mind you but some.
For example, Oct 8th 2024 Dr John Campbell (if you don’t watch him on YT you should) put out a video called “Changing Views” about a paper that concludes that economics and social pressure NOT science was the reasons for the above. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGVaXousYNI
So more info getting out, more conclusions (in public, if limitedly so) it was incompetence and greed. So far So JMG.
Now what else has been going on? About the time the media seemed to notice Ukrain was in the dodo (publicly noticed) all the sudden a certain Middle eastern American proxy starts a NEW effort to bomb women and children. Which OF COURSE draws ALL of the media attention.
My hypothesis: Covid, “The Opportunity”
1. Make our donors rich with Government money (warp Speed).
2. Grab more power and control (Censorship, every petty bureaucrat making new rules etc).
3. Get the platform (mRNA) out of the lab so we can clean up $$$.
4. Next power grab, mandate shot uptake. This is a twofer as 1. herd the sheep, 2. ALSO make LOTS of money for our donors.
5. Opps!!!! There was a reason mRNA never got out of the lab… such as complete and total failure in animal testing.
6. OH SH**!!!!! People are asking questions about what WE did and what WE made them do to have food, shelter and clothing.
7. OH F***!!!! Quick start a war or something. Yeah, that’s the ticket torque off Russia, yeah that'll do it, and we can “break them up” and steal their stuff at the same time. Nobody likes them dirty orcs anyway.
8. Time…
9. Well SH** that Russian thing ain’t working. We’re incompetent! What did you expect? But what the heck Raytheon etc. made a bunch of money so…
10. Oh Right, people are STILL talking about Covid (see current 166th thread) we need something else…
11. Well, we got the GAZA thing, we’re starting to look the genociders we are, maybe, I don’t know, let’s start another, actually, unprovoked attack in Lebanon, maybe start a war with Iran. Sure, that’s the ticket. What could go wrong?
MEANWHILE
All cause deaths are still up and in some cases increasing.
Kids are still dying suddenly
We seem to be having another round of turbo cancer.
And currently people are getting sick AGAIN with covid.
TL,DR:
The war with Russia was started to get covid out of the discussion space.
We’re losing (and have been since the beginning) in Ukraine so we need something else big to distract attention so lets start a Middle East conflagration to take up the news cycle.
BECAUSE: If the greater population of the west realizes what was done to them via Covid there is not one of their governments that can stand the anger and outrage and they know it. And yes, I’m talking pitchforks and nooses.
Listen, look somebody in the eye and tell them that they got their kids a shot to protect them because “The Experts” said to and then it turns out they were KNOWING giving out poison and see what kind of reaction you get.
Anyway, JMG, Thoughts?
~Wolf
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Date: 2024-10-09 06:15 pm (UTC)I'm talking about recent decision to begin killing Hezbollah (COMPLETELY different group) and therefore Lebanese.
For example:
"Benjamin Netanyahu has issued a statement addressed to the Lebanese people telling them that they need to somehow defeat Hezbollah in order to “save Lebanon before it plunges into the abyss of a long war that will lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza.”
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/slaughter-in-gaza-and-lebanon-as
~Wolf
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Date: 2024-10-09 07:27 pm (UTC)Sarcasm aside, prior to Oct 7th, Israelis started their "Temple Mount" operation with the ultimate goal of destroying Al Aqsa mosque. Hamas action was a continuation of that.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/4/israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque-complex-on-fifth-day-of-sukkot
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Date: 2024-10-09 10:02 pm (UTC)Re: I have "a tentative hypothesis"
Date: 2024-10-10 04:59 am (UTC)Okay.
But this is going way off topic, so I won't say anything more about it.
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Date: 2024-10-09 09:57 pm (UTC)Lots of tricky-dicky behind the scenes stuff.
LIHOP (Let it happen on purpose) or MIHOP (Make it happen on purpose)...
Then once it started some new unidentified figures carried out 'actions...'
oddly they all had the same coloured shirts but not same style, brand, etc...
The Fog of War
is
a dry ice machine for clever belligerents.
BTW I've always liked the image you use in your profile.
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Date: 2024-10-10 03:04 am (UTC)Not a bad hypothesis. Ukraine got going just as what the Canadian Truckers started was getting traction around the world.
I'd like to believe Joe Public is slowly waking up, but they're pretty heavily brainwashed into submission, whatever their Governments do. To generalise, most would rather believe the narrative than confront a nasty, threatening reality and anyway they're scrambling to pay their bills, so they don't have much time to think.
I don't think the US/Globalist crowd cares if they win or lose wars, so long as they make money. Who remembers, or cares now about the humiliation in Afghanistan? 20 years, $2T+, kerching!
Ukraine will likely be an even bigger humiliation, but the brown paper bags are already filled. Israel will probably lose too, but the $$ will still be recirculated through AIPAC.
Gaza has been a big awakening moment for many though. The blatant genocide is impossible to justify, or ignore.
Mind you, the current COVID vax death toll estimate by CHD's Chief Scientific Officer is 15.3million, so that's way beyond Ukraine and Gaza.
On dark days I wonder if it's all kabuki theatre anyway, given Russia has a central bank and the bankers ultimately control most things.
Re: I have "a tentative hypothesis"
Date: 2024-10-10 11:52 pm (UTC)Anything 'official' is most-likely suspect.
Anything 'high profile' is most likely secretly promoted & orchestrated by 'official' sources of the darkest nature.
And now we live in 24/7 psy-ops, rope-a-dope dipsy-doodle bs, mind control, cultural engineering, etc...
It's Edward Bernays' world and we just live in it, lol...
Re: I have "a tentative hypothesis"
Date: 2024-10-12 11:36 pm (UTC)There are many empowering things one can practice to be steadfast
and if one decides to 'go down swinging' one might hit a home run.
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Date: 2024-10-10 01:55 pm (UTC)I wrote a post with a hypothesis about "The West" using war and genocide to cover up the covid disaster and almost EVERY post was about those wars not that they maybe/are being used to cover up the damage done by the "covid incident."
One post was, so thank you.
But really. those were meant as examples, how did they become the topic?
JMG, i think i begin to understand your rules (particularly regarding off topic) for the first time.
Is it me or is this what happens each time there is a issue that may not make somebody look good so people pile on and sidetrack so "uncomfortable truths" don't have to be discussed?
Personally i felt that examples were necessary to make the point of the timing, but i guess i should leave them out and make declarative statements such as: "The West is using the war in Ukraine and Israel to cover up the Covid disaster the West made."
That does not to me sound like the kind of forum this is supposed to be and well reasoned arguments like the initial hypothesis are one offs.
Or maybe I'm just a whiner. Could go either way :-)
~Wolf
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Date: 2024-10-10 10:03 pm (UTC)willful? inability to think subtlety? Unwillingness to look at implications and possible culpability (my guess)?
Anyway Thanks.
~Wolf
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Date: 2024-10-10 10:26 pm (UTC)I have noticed recently that it's not uncommon for conversations to get side tracked into discussion of the examples. I don't remember if it was always like that but I find myself saying "Yes, but the point . . ." more frequently these days.
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Date: 2024-10-12 01:49 am (UTC)A second post regarding my hypothesis.
JMG excepted.
~Wolf
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Date: 2024-10-11 12:02 am (UTC)How though do you walk that back? That guilt.
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Date: 2024-10-11 02:41 pm (UTC)Much as it pains me, much as I think their getting their kids injected was an appalling mistake, and that they could have and should have asked more questions and done whatever, literally whatever they needed to do in order to avoid injecting the kids with this EUA gene juice, I stand back because parents' choices about their children's medical care are the parents' to make. Other than my spouse's, and those individuals under my direct care, other people's personal medical histories are not my business.
That said, I do what I can with my transcripts and leaving literature here & there. And I have posted many transcripts of doctors, nurses, and others speaking out against jabbing the kids, and also of parents speaking out about their childrens' deaths and injuries following the covid jabs.
The people who are open to data and information other than what they get spoon-fed on TV, and who are genuinely asking even the most basic questions, I trust they will find what they need to find (perhaps one of my transcripts, more likely something else) without overmuch ado. After all, RFK Jr's book, THE REAL ANTHONY FAUCI, totally and throughly and very deliberately ignored by the mainstream media, has sold over a million copies. There is now a whole library's worth of counter-narrative books that one can easily download or, as a paperback, get shipped from amazon.com or from any one or many other online booksellers. Plus there are a gazillion Substacks and bitchute and odysee and rumble videos, and avalanches of counter-narrative info on "X."
The people who don't want to know, they won't ask questions, they won't look for data and information, and well, they get their karma with that. It's theirs.
But what do I know of other peoples' karma? I actually think it's beyond my currently incarnated human ability to see more than a micro-slice of someone else's karma.
As for their possibly crushing feelings of guilt: My view is, sad as it may be, that's their problem to grapple with, and to come to terms with, if they can. Some can. Some probably can't.
I don't think anyone gets through even kindergarten without having done something they regret. Learning to cope with regret and guilt is part of life. As life goes on, it presents one with more opportunities to do stuff one will regret and feel guilty about. One learns to avoid those actions, or, sometimes, alas, one doesn't. Seems to me it's better to learn the easy way (see other people do stupid shale, then, don't do that) and when not (oops, big mistake), learn to make it right, learn to avoid in in the future, learn to come to terms with feelings about it, and learn to forgive oneself.
We're all on the learning curve in life, and maybe it's not where we think we are.
Thanks for the prompt to order my thoughts on this subject.
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Date: 2024-10-11 06:39 pm (UTC)I'll just tell myself I instinctively 'knew' a few of the things you explore. :-)
My siblings have never asked me a single question but sure had fun mocking the Canadian truckers
from a PMC perspective.
We're all on the learning curve in life, and maybe it's not where we think we are.
I think this is without a doubt true.
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Date: 2024-10-12 01:51 am (UTC)They/we cannot face that guilt. Which was my point. the events are just cover to keep us bickering and not focusing on the ACTUAL issue.
~Wolf
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