Mundane Astrology Project: An Experiment Revisited

[ecosophia]

A year ago, as some of my readers may remember, I posted an astrological experiment: a set of predictions for the next year of American history based on the return of the sun to its position in the Thema Mundi -- the traditional natal horoscope of the world, as recorded in the writings of Roman astrologer Julius Firmicius Maternus. The experiment went well enough that I'll be doing it again. I should have the new predictions up in a few days.

First, though, here's a summary of how the earlier one worked out. I've posted it as a public entry on SubscribeStar here and on Patreon here. Let me know what you think.

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Unrelated for jmg

[(Anonymous)]

You are being proven right quite a lot recently.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/03/is-the-dream-of-nuclear-fusion-dead-why-the-international-experimental-reactor-is-in-big-trouble

Kind regards
Sean Bolger

Re: Unrelated for jmg

[ecosophia]

That one was really shooting fish in a barrel. Fusion power has been 20 years in the future since before I was born!

[(Anonymous)]

The conflicting indications regarding public contentment are may be reflected in the way that so many Americans are simply hunkering down and hoping for the best instead of rioting or the like.

Looks like a typo

[ecosophia]

Yes, those happen tolerably often in any setting where there isn't an editor -- and sometimes when there is.

[randomactsofkarmasc]

First, thank you for making this horoscope and your post-analysis available for free. :-)

I am not an astrologer, so obviously take my comments with the appropriate-sized grain of salt, but your analysis of Mars and Venus intrigued me.

Short version, Mars predicted a benefit to public health and Venus predicted a 'dumpster fire' for public health. My understanding of your analysis is that your Venus prediction was accurate and your Mars prediction less so.

I recently read a "complementary" interpretation of the Greeks Gods (https://www.greekmyths-interpretation.com/en/olympian-gods-interpretation/complementary-gods-greek-mythology/): [regarding Ares and Aphrodite} "This arrangement is in agreement with what has been said about humankind in its current stage: the necessary evolution of love through the destruction of forms"

If you consider your prediction for Mars benefiting public health by destroying forms, the release of data that acknowledges the dangers of the covid vaccines (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/07/no_author/a-closer-look-at-the-czech-republic-data-confirms-the-mrna-vaccines-are-too-deadly-to-be-used/), people winning court cases after wrongful termination for not getting the vaccine (don't have a link, but an article was published not too long ago), and doctors who were deplatformed for being 'vaccine skeptics' getting replatformed (though I don't know if that happened during the time period your prediction covers) all destroy the forms/narratives that were pushed previously. I consider the destruction of these forms a definite benefit.

There might be more examples, but I just discovered the greeksmyths-interpretation website on Friday and just started reading through it and I really liked how the complementary gods were presented and then you had a prediction where Mars and Venus both predicted the same thing, but went about it opposite ways. It seemed like a synchronicity I was supposed to share.

Also, you mentioned your prediction thought there should be a sex scandal, but there wasn't one you knew of. My husband mentioned to me that one of the radio talk shows he listens too predicted what one of the "October surprises" will be, if Kamala is actually still the nominee. Apparently during her rise to power in California, one of the local newspapers did a weekly column documenting her, uh, "connections" and payoffs. (Apparently, it includes pictures of her with various people of power, often in compromising positions.) According to the host, lots of people know of the articles. The question is who has access and will they release it and when? But it is already a topic of conversation in some circles...

Again, thank you for making this available.

The stars incline

[(Anonymous)]

Yet another win for astrology--materialists in shambles. When I first found out about my birth chart, I was utterly astounded to find out that it not only predicted the basics of my personality, but other facts of astonishing precision and granularity. For example, my favorite genre of stories (and that I would like them best in book form), my constant history of strange, uncanny, and hard to pin down physical illness that had a particular impact on my ability to socialize normally, the relative androgyny of my instinctual approach to life, and my constant obsession with the ocean and deep water. TSW is a mild way of describing astrology; my dad absolutely despised it for decades, but after I described his transits to him for six months straight as a half mocking, half serious ploy, he now sheepishly asks me whats going on with his stars all the time. Even a closed mind bows and unfolds before the stars in their courses!

Do you have any insight into Neptune's shift into Aries and its effect on public health? Would Neptune being peregrine diffuse any of the insanity over Covid and vaccines, or would the lessened dignity make the whole issue worse? Also, what do you think about the potential for a repair of relations between young men and women? Personally, the biggest thing keeping me away from dating is the sheer, unadulterated delusion that pours off women of my generation like sweat after a hard workout, the fact that this makes their personalities monumentally dull and one-note, and the way that society at large punishes me for their instability without recourse when they arbitrarily decide that I'm at fault. Aries does not seem delusional, hysterical, or manipulative, (to put it mildly), and I've been hoping that our society is in for some controlled burning and ram-like bluntness, so to speak. What are your thoughts?


-Derpherder

Re: The stars incline

[ecosophia]

It's very difficult, using the form of mundane astrology I practice, to judge how a planet will affect the world as it transits a sign -- I need a specific time, date, and place for a chart. Fortunately in February 2026 there is one: Neptune will enter 0° Aries and will immediately be conjunct Saturn. Outer planet conjunctions at the very beginning of Aries are very rare and according to the old astrological lore, they mark the end of one world-age and the beginning of another. So this one's a big deal, and I'll be delineating it as we get closer.

As for the current state of sexual politics, I expect the pendulum to go back the other way at some point, but it's anyone's guess when. Partly the world and the US are both insanely overpopulated, and many of the dysfunctions in relationships may be part of the process that drives down birth rates far enough to balance things out.

Re: The stars incline

[(Anonymous)]

Absolutely agreed about overpopulation and the current sexual politics; it's something that few talk about despite how much it makes sense. It will be interesting to see what increasing amounts of war and violence does to this dynamic, since fighters tend to excite women a BIT more than pencil-pushers, and the Horsemen are fairly good at reducing population once that particular ball gets rolling.

-Derpherder

[jprussell]

As for sex scandals, there was that tape that came out of a senate aide having gay sex in the senate hearing room, though it didn't seem to amount to much.

[(Anonymous)]

true, pretty much everyone wanted to forget that

Genderfication

[(Anonymous)]

And the general state of "gender" -- scandals at the olympics with regards to that... including trans or whatever boxers beating up biological females.

Eagle Fang Warrior 5000

Prediction Accuracy

[linden_matryoshka]

"I was wrong about the sex scandals - at least I didn't happen to hear about them". Oh well... just happened to read the headline - Kamala Harris's Husband Admits To Cheating On 1st Wife With Homewrecker Nanny, Knocking Her Up. Looks like a sex scandal to me :)
Kirsten

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you cast it over Washington DC instead of some other city like London?

[ecosophia]

Because I'm an American citizen and am interested in how world events affect the country I live in. If you cast it for London -- I encourage you to do it -- the planets will have the same zodiacal positions and aspects but different houses, and those placements will predict how things will go for Britain for the next year.

[(Anonymous)]

JMG's Patreon and SubscribeStar include a number of lessons on how to interpret a mundane astrology chart. I know his book is coming out soon, but in the meantime you can do worse than the $10/month, which gets you lots of other juicy bits too.

/plug

- Cicada Grove

[(Anonymous)]

That's strange. I would have expected the Sun return chart of the world (of Earth? of human co-construction of astrological significances?) to have meaning for tendencies affecting the world (or humanity or whatever) considered as an organic whole, which might not carry over directly as if it had been an ingress chart for individual polities (even considering the differences in house cusp placements). Like how in an ingress chart, the condition of the Moon passes through to the political classes much more than to the chief executive and in neither case quite as if it had been a Moon placement for either of them, and the condition of the Sun has to be handled a little differently since its position defines the timing of the chart.

(Or like how, in an "exo-astrological" chart for something on another celestial body, that body's influence would have to no longer be called out separately and various areas of purview would have to be reassigned away from it, while some other purviews would have to be reassigned to Earth and Earth's effects would have to be called out separately. Ray Grasse speculates:

https://www.astro.com/astrology/in_rgexoastrology_e.htm

> The irony here is, it may wind up to be that only by moving off-planet we’ll finally learn exactly what the “Earth” means, as an astrological principle. How? Suppose we were doing horoscopes on Mars, and carefully watched as the Earth transited over someone’s midheaven; or watched every time Saturn squared the natal Earth in their chart; or every time Jupiter conjuncted that same degree. Over time, we’d surely start to get a feel for what the “Earth” means as a working, astrological principle. (Personally, I suspect we’ll discover that it’s closely resonant in nature with the zodiacal sign Taurus. Thinking about this in terms of zodiacal rulerships, the ultra-hot planet Venus seems more resonant to me with the “hot/dry” sign Libra, whereas the largely watery planet Earth seems more fitting to the “moist” sign Taurus. But others will have to make up their own minds.)

It could even turn out to not be just an academic question. I'm less pessimistic than you about the radiation problems with space travel (there's clever engineering to be attempted with multipole electrical fields and perhaps long-path diffraction lensing), and somewhat less pessimistic about the energy problems, but a bit more pessimistic about some other things.)

So maybe in a mundane chart for the world, the planets would become significators for different power blocs or populations (or ecological guilds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_(ecology) , or ecosystems, or...).

[ecosophia]

It may well be possible to interpret a thema mundi ingress that way, but my approach -- based on my experience with solar ingress, eclipse, and great conjunction charts -- is to cast a chart for a specific location on the planet, that of a capital city, and use that as a guide to political and economic trends. If you want to do it another way, by all means, but that's the approach to mundane charts I've been exploring and it seems to yield accurate predictions -- and that, to me, is the name of the game.