Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 156

[ecosophia]

This post concludes the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Czech data

[stubborn_ass]

Ok thanks for clarifying more about Steve. I guess my scepticism rose from the fact that even as he gained a certain degree of prominence in the public space, the system pretty much left him alone. His wealth would never be a real insulator as the system can just make up charges as it went along, if it deemed someone was threatening to the status quo, as they've done to much less prominent folk advocating for medical freedom / actual knowledge. He's deemed to be the acceptable 'safety valve' for all the budding frustrations - that was my assessment. I will give him more benefit of the doubt going forward though... thanks.

Re: Czech data

[(Anonymous)]

That's an important point, that no matter how much money and status a person has, if the "the system"-- I'd say, specific actors in the Deep State-- want to nail you, they certainly can, and in 5,798 ways from Tuesday including "heart attack," "car accident," and "suicide." I have more I could say about this, but that would go off-topic for this forum.

I'll suffice to say, I don't think human beings are the whole story here.

Kirsch is undoubtedly well-lawyered up-- so he's somewhat protected by that, and it shows in the way he presents information / paper trails. But for standing up and speaking out Kirsch has lost a lot. I don't know all the details, and I don't even know him, apart from regularly reading his substack regularly and watching his rumble channel over the past few years. I do know the sociologial milieu of Silicon Valley, so it doe snot surprise me in the least that for standing up against "the narrative" as he has, Kirsch lost most of his previous social life-- and that's got to have been extremely tough on him, on his marriage, and on his kids. (Yeah, well, don't almost all of of us here know all about that...) And now, to his old world, he's just some kind of fringy, freaky, icky character. And yet he keeps going. He's sort of like Mr Misinformation Spreader / Energizer Bunny— that's what I think of when I read his typical blog post.

That said, I'm here on this forum, and I doubt that Kirch ever would be-- I'm not entirely on his wave length, so to say, nor, I expect, would he ever be on mine. I don't see this whole covidian thing as all unfolding on the material plane; I perceive that there are other dimensions to it-- etheric, astral, and to the point, just a whole lot of bad actors on the astral getting into people's minds and doing some serious mind-fadoodle.

I don't think any of us here (or anywhere) has the whole story, every nook and cranny and backstory and identify every player. My operating assumption at this time is that Kirsch, with the financial and personal resources that he has, is answering the call to play a specific role as a warrior for humanity. And for that, I am very grateful to him.

This is my take on it now. Could change. We'll see.

PS The Vaccine Safety Research Foundation livestreams are free, and you can ask questions of the guests and also of the staff. There's some excellent information there, and many jab injured people have found help there.
https://rumble.com/c/VaccineSafetyResearchFoundation

Re: Czech data

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking of the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation:

COPY PASTE from a Substack post:
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/vsrf-live-episode-137-covid-legal

VSRF LIVE: Episode 137 - COVID Legal Victories Update...Will History Repeat in the Next Pandemic?
Thursday, August 1st: 7pm Eastern | 4pm Pacific
Steve Kirsch Aug 1, 2024

On tonight’s VSRF LIVE we feature a panel of COVID litigators who will discuss recent major wins in the fight against illegal COVID mandates and their harmful repercussions, including the proper re-classification of C19 “vaccines” as therapeutic drugs which cannot be mandated, as well as employer mandate, hospital protocols, and related cases that have received favorable judgements by the courts.

Also, and what I’m most excited about, we will discuss what these wins mean for future pandemic responses.

First we welcome our good friend and previous guest, attorney Warner Mendenhall, along with attorney Jeremy Friedman – both currently pursuing a number of important cases including a massive class action against the University of California Board of Regents with our very own Nurse Angela as one of the plaintiffs.

We also welcome attorney Danielle Runyan, who continues to proudly serve our nation as a member of the United States Air Force. Ms. Runyon serves as senior counsel for First Liberty Institute, defending and protecting religious freedom. Her continuous commitment to leadership and public service earned her the Department of Defense Spirit of Service Award in May of 2021.

We will do a deep dive into some of the more recent pivotal case victories and what they mean for setting precedent against future health-related human rights abuses by government. Some key cases we will discuss include: Health Freedom vs. LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) where it was decided that mandating C19 injections, which do not stop virus transmission, may be distinguished from the smallpox vaccine mandates at issue in the pivotal Jacobson v. Massachusetts decision that has been the controlling precedent calling vaccine mandates constitutional since the early 20th Century. We’ll also look into the United Airlines case where the Northern District of Texas, Fifth Circuit, recently ruled that all United Airlines employees put on unpaid leave despite having a religious exemption to the Covid-19 injections can join Sambrano v. United Airlines, making the case one of the largest religious discrimination class action lawsuits in history. We’ll also be discussing the recent Navy Seals vs. Biden case where the military will be forced to expunge any service member records documenting a refusal to take the COVID vaccines. Time permitting, we’ll also cover the important First Amendment controversy in Murthy v. Biden and discuss where the fight to combat medical censorship currently stands.

Join us for this inspiring show where we will see the fruits of our many labors as we fight to maintain health sovereignty and medical autonomy. And most importantly, ensure that these legal victories enshrine our rights should these events ever come our way again!

LINK TO RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/v59828k-vsrf-live-137-covid-legal-victories-update.html