Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 153
Jul. 9th, 2024 10:10 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Viral Evolution in a Crowded World
Date: 2024-07-13 11:00 am (UTC)So all the colourful evolutionary diagrams of Sars2 that have appeared in numerous papers over the last 4 years are part of an elaborate, complicated, scientific looking hoax? And all the very involved discussion on genetic placements and changes to parts of the virus etc. are just an entertaining fiction?
Not everyone's out to get us. In fact, mostly it's the opposite in my experience.
Re: Viral Evolution in a Crowded World
Date: 2024-07-14 02:27 am (UTC)Re: Viral Evolution in a Crowded World
Date: 2024-07-14 02:13 pm (UTC)Re: Viral Evolution in a Crowded World
Date: 2024-07-15 02:22 am (UTC)I don't see why I should NOT trust the science behind lockdowns, masks, PCR tests, experimental injections, and vaccine mandates - but then trust the science behind the variants narrative, when this narrative was used to spread fear about the virus.
Re: Viral Evolution in a Crowded World
Date: 2024-07-15 10:25 am (UTC)I wrote this paragraph badly, let me fix it:
Given that I do NOT trust the science behind lockdowns, masks, PCR tests, experimental injections, and vaccine mandates - I do not see why I should then trust the science behind the variants narrative, when this narrative was used to spread fear about the virus.
Re: Viral Evolution in a Crowded World
Date: 2024-07-15 04:10 pm (UTC)I certainly don't trust anything coming out of universities or the media these days. They've all turned their backs on real science and real journalism. They've shown themselves to be complicit in some serious malfeasance. No matter what they are accused of and regardless of any evidence as Bret Weinstein says: "I wouldn't put it past them."
Re: Viral Evolution in a Crowded World
Date: 2024-07-15 07:37 pm (UTC)There IS NO SCIENCE supporting lockdowns, masks, PCR tests, experimental injections, or vaccine mandates.
Science says the EXACT and SPECIFIC OPPOSITE.
Science says none of those things are valid ways to contain or respond to pandemic or epidemic situations.
Science – as in widely accepted consensus of many many scientists coming to the same conclusions – was boldly ignored by the persons in authority when those measures were unlawfully imposed on the public.
All of those measures are nothing but marketing lies and wedge maneuvers by special interest predators seeking to gain more power and money through political opportunism.
Those measures are NOT SUPPORTED by science.
Literally thousands of scientists running gold standard controlled randomized trials discovered and reported that there is no public health benefit to masks, lockdowns or social distancing measures.
The inventor of the PCR test objected to the use of his test as a supposed indicator of the presence or absence of the novel SARS-2 virus. The test was also grossly misused in operation, with an outlandish number of repeated iterations that returned false positives in the juice of unopened papayas and non-living but organic pools of used motor oil. The PCR test as used by complicit authorities is a lie, a fake, a scare tactic, a phoney bolus of baloney. Not trustworthy. Not science.
As for experimental injections of mRNA, the whole body of science literature on both animal studies and the very few properly conducted human trials said NO NO NO in big red letters that they are NOT SAFE and NOT EFFECTIVE. This scientific evidence was boldly and (in my opinion) criminally ignored in favor of mandating and marketing the dangerous injection of these shots into about a billion people in uncontrolled circumstances under untested conditions. The very few human control groups once again validated the science AGAINST using the shots, but this evidence was hidden, deliberately destroyed, fraudulently confounded or not even collected This is NOT SCIENCE.
Known experts with decades of experience in developing and deploying traditional vaccines, experts in tracking and treating viral epidemiology BEGGED the Western world’s governments NOT to vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic, since it would drive evolution of the virus in the direction or more virulence or more transmissibility. These scientists were not just ignored but persecuted, hounded, sued, deplatformed, threatened with delicensing and the loss of their livelihoods for DOING SCIENCE CORRECTLY.
Why were shots forced on students, the military and the public then? Why was this inhumane moral collapse and murderous attack allowed against the law of many nations, in defiance of the principles of science and against all common sense? Why, because it helped certain people to obtain wealth to the tune of billions of currency and still more wealth to come by creating economic conditions favorable for very rich people to swoop in and get lots of real estate at fire sale prices.
As for media-manufactured so called ‘mandates’, there was no such mandate. There was a deliberately induced mass panic and psychic attack on legitimate public order. Certain political groups colluded with the poisonous shot makers in order to gain more power over the public.
This is not science. This is treason. This is abuse of power. This is betrayal of trust and abdication of responsibility on a grand and gleeful scale. It uses the trappings of science the way a wolf dons a sheepskin to get closer to the prey.
But it is not science, It is pure malice.
As for this QUOTE ”why I should then trust the science behind the variants narrative, when this narrative was used to spread fear about the virus.” END QUOTE ...well, of course you should not.
If you are going around trusting science instead of using your keenly sharpened suspicions and trained mental faculties to critically analyze, test, re-test, counter hypothesize, argue against, and generally stomp on with both flat feet what ANYBODY claims to be reporting as scientific knowledge then very likely you are another victim of these same greedy sneak thieves, amoral sociopaths, and immoral political predators cloaking themselves in sciencey-sounding truthiness.
If you are in any way inclined to trust political authorities to report accurately and honestly about any facts that may or may not have been established by genuine scientific endeavours, then don’t. Don’t do that. You are setting yourself up for being robbed or imprisoned by people who want to do you harm.
Every Western nation and many Asian nations have clearly shown themselves to be lying manipulating thieves, inhumane control freaks, and out-right or tacit murderers. These people drop science like a hot populist rock when it opposes their unbridled desires.
I hope this adequately answers your question about how and when to trust “the science.”
Re: Viral Evolution in a Crowded World
Date: 2024-07-16 01:47 am (UTC)We'd do worse than meditate on the Ouroboros in these frustrating and strange times. I didn't realise this until your last, deeply frustrated, comment so thank you.