Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 148

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

meme

[methylethyl]

This week's meme: right on!

I keep reminding myself of this. They wouldn't be working so hard at it, if they thought they'd already won, and we couldn't take it back.

Re: meme

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed regarding this meme: I haven't seen it before, but ain't it the truth!

Also, is it just me, or have 'they' become more shrill and frantic as of late regarding a whole bunch of their 'pet projects'?

Ron M

Prion disease

[(Anonymous)]

Not strictly speaking relevant to the cooties, but this may be noteworthy:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/03/canada-email-leak-new-brunswick-mystery-illness

Mystery disease being covered up by officials? Where did I hear that one before?

If you read about similar diseases such as human CJD, cow BSE, sheep Scrapie and deer wasting disease, it seems pretty much certain from the symptoms of the poor people that it's a contagious prion disease. Prion diseases are one of the more terrifying illness types, as they are progressive and incurable, with an incubation period of years.

From reading further into it, there was a cluster of cases in 2019, then more in 2021, and now it's just not being looked at, with a ln offical "nothing to see here, folks", which if anything is more alarming.

Re: Prion disease

[(Anonymous)]

Keep an eye on this. Prions are definitely something that can be expected to result from the mRNA vaccines. If even one of the spike proteins that the mRNA codes for mid-folds it could create a prion situation. As there is no “off-switch” for the spike production, the odds of this happening over the life of the recipient are… definitely greater than 0.

[(Anonymous)]

WATCH: Fauci Trashes Conservative Media, Says the Unvaccinated Were Responsible for 200,000 to 300,000 Additional Covid Deaths

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/watch-fauci-trashes-conservative-media-says-unvaccinated-were/

[(Anonymous)]

If we set that spurious total against the 1 million+ Covid vaxx deaths in the US, and the toll of suicides and denial of primary medical care during lockdowns, the awful anti-vaxxers are still ahead, Dr Fauci.

[(Anonymous)]

Canadian scientist explains how COVID likely escaped from a Chinese lab in 'five key points'

https://nationalpost.com/news/canadian-scientist-explains-covid-lab-escape-theory

[(Anonymous)]

BREAKING: UK’s Telegraph Comes Clean – Front Page Headline Reads “Covid Jabs May Be to Blame for Increase in Excess Deaths”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/breaking-uks-telegraph-comes-clean-front-page-headline/

natto

[michele7]

For anyone on the fence about consuming natto, here is a NHK Japan video about the benefits of eating natto. The end of the video highlights a Japanese culinary teacher that creates natto dishes to woo the natto haters.

https://youtu.be/izgNm_uwJzA?si=pgSZMpbo_vDWq2Ik

For anyone wanting recipes for dishes using natto, here's a good resource. This is the English version of Cookpad from Japan. Anyone for natto pizza?

https://cookpad.com/us/search/natto

Re: natto

[(Anonymous)]

If natto pizza makes an appearance at the potluck, I promise to have a bite!

Boston Bob

[(Anonymous)]

(This is actually carried over from a comment at the end of last week's thread.)

"...and the knowledge will fall into the category of "history almost nobody actually learns from" and lessons will have to be learned again."

This is why history seems so frustratingly repetitive. It's like remedial education, where the student must repeat the exercise over and over and over again and again and again until the lesson is learned. But somehow the lesson never ever seems to get learned. So here we go (again!) with BirdFlu-mania, in the wake of MonkeyPox-mania, in the wake of Covid19-mania, in the wake of SARS-mania, in the wake of Meningitis-mania, in the wake of AIDS-mania, in the wake of Herpes-mania, in the wake of SwineFlu-mania, in the wake of... ...as far back as the Black Death, and beyond.

[escorcher]

er, the same 'Black Death' that at its worst killed up to 50% of the population in many places?

Now and again the mania is warranted, and that partly explains the mania, over-reaction and manipulation when it isn't.

Humans - they can be very imaginative if not always accurate.

[(Anonymous)]

KILLER FAUCI: On March 16, 2020, Dr. Fauci Received Email Cheering Hydroxychloroquine Treatment of COVID in China – 4 Days Later He Publicly Rebuked President Trump at WH Presser For Suggesting It a Valid COVID Treatment

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/killer-fauci-march-16-2020-dr-fauci-received/

Fauci Grilled

[(Anonymous)]

That testimony yesterday was rather interesting. And though I don't much care for that type... I have to say I did get a kick out of MTG railing into Fauci.

At the top of this reddit thread is a clip of Fauci talking about how great natural immunity is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RFKJrForPresident/comments/1d7sykd/what_happened_to_oldschool_liberals_who_were/

Here are some other choice tidbits:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/under-oath-fauci-must-answer-these-questions

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/big-pharma-paid-690-million-faucis-agency-during-pandemic

Eagle Fang Warrior 5000

Is Something Up?

[escorcher]

Is something up?

https://x.com/JPWeiland/status/1797763259904475523

"Wow @ Hawaii numbers at emergency depts. Nearing 12 month peaks, at this rate it looks sure to pass it up. Very different story compared to most of the continental US."

https://x.com/CovidDataReport/status/1797717196048638318
San Francisco, CA is about to hit the highest wastewater level of the entire pandemic at their bigger wastewater site. This is a major red flag and something we need to keep an eye on. If I was the CDC I would be doing extra variant sequencing there ASAP."

Re: Is Something Up?

[(Anonymous)]

Wife had to do a Virtual Urgent Care visit for strep on Sunday and the nurse said COVID is on the rise right now.

Daily Mail - Mystery new cancer crisis

[fredsmith11]

"Now doctors face new cancer crisis - mystery rise of lung tumors in young people who've NEVER smoked" - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13490375/lung-cancer-rising-young-americans.html

It's a mystery to me too. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing it, apart from the usual, right wing, conspiracy-theorist suspects?

This cartoon from jermwarfare.com isn't about COVID, but it does embrace the societal derangement that COVID is part of.

[scotlyn]

I shall not fear.
Fear of contagion is the mind-killer.
Fear of others is the little-death that brings total isolation.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only we will remain.

[ecosophia]

The Litany Against Covid. I like it.

I think you may have just nominated yourself as our first Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother, btw.

[(Anonymous)]

Birx says US making ‘same mistakes’ with bird flu as COVID-19

https://www.yahoo.com/news/birx-says-us-making-same-224016376.html

[ecosophia]

Listening to Deborah Birx certainly counted as a major mistake, so she may be on to something. ;-)

Nice Article that is tangentially appropriate to the conversation

[degringolade]

https://slate.com/culture/2024/05/witches-wizards-magic-middle-ages-cunning-folk-book.html

Might be worth reading and thinking about as an alternative to western medicine

nattokinase/serrapeptase publications?

[(Anonymous)]

nattokinase/serrapeptase have been discussed quite regularly in these posts. Is there a go to publication, series of publications or metastudy that clearly indicate the effectiveness of these in reducing clotting and healing the epithelium? (Assuming these are indeed the positive benefits of taking these enzymes)

Re: nattokinase/serrapeptase publications?

[(Anonymous)]

Some people have discussed nattokinase on their substacks, these have some references to studies:

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/dissolution-of-spike-protein-by-nattokinase
https://pharmd.substack.com/p/frequency-asked-questions-nattokinase

This one mentions the combination of natto and serra, I think he has written about serrapeptase somewhere else but couldn’t find it:

https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/nattokinase-degrades-the-spike-protein

bird flu

[(Anonymous)]

I'm assuming most of the stuff about bird flu is hype. But also wondering if more human tampering is involved and if if it might be wise to be prepared. Does anyone know of any studies or theories about ways to address it as far as herbs or alternative heath practices?

Re: bird flu

[(Anonymous)]

The treatment against bird flu, last time they rolled this story out (about 15 years ago), Tamilflu, was based on star anise, or specifically a substance found in that plant called shikimic acid.

[(Anonymous)]

WHO’s Tedros Declares ‘It’s Time to be More Aggressive in Pushing Back on Anti-Vaxxers’ – In Same Week that Media Reports Connection to Excess Deaths and the Jab

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/whos-tedros-declares-its-time-be-more-aggressive/

..i dont even think he took it

also, isnt he a veterinarian..?

[(Anonymous)]

a thought for Tedros and all the other pro-vaxxers out there:

Confucius — 'The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name.'

I'm not antivax, indeed I'll happily take the rabies vaccine ASAP should I ever need to, because from what I can see, that vaccine (a) works and (b) is less dangerous than the disease. I'm more pro-vaccine safety than mindlessly anti-anything.

[(Anonymous)]

Fmr. CDC Director Robert Redfield Makes a Series of Stunning Admissions That Were Once Deemed 'Misinformation'

"There was a decision not to do anything that made the vaccine sound like it didn't work."

"Two thirds of the people that I'm seeing infected in Maryland have been vaccinated."

"If you came down and visited me and interviewed my patients...you'd interview patient after patient after patient that did not have COVID but are very sick. You would say very sick, long COVID patients. And it's all from the vaccine."

"The spike protein is immunotoxic. You get infected, it's immunotoxic. But when you give the vaccine, we make the spike protein."

"When I give you an mRNA vaccine...I don't know how much spike protein you make because I give you mRNA and then your body goes and makes it...You may make it for a week...You may make it for a month."

"I use the protein vaccine so I know exactly how much spike protein you get. Your body's not becoming a [spike protein] manufacturing plant."

https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1798421056941601194

[fredsmith11]

The comments on that Twitter post are illuminating. All negative about the vax and whole COVID rigmarole.

I've wondered for a long time how it would look if/when people wake up and realise what BS COVID was and the toxicity of the jabs.

At a dinner party the other night, where my wife and I were the only unvaxxed people (as usual), the subject of COVID and the jabs came up and I said "you realise they're going to try to pull the same stunt with bird flu right?" and "ABS excess death stats show that about 50,000 people have died in Australia from the jabs so far".

No push back at all from anyone, whereas I always used to get dissed as a "ridiculous conspiracy theorist". One couple said how pissed off they were and vehemently said were never taking another vax.

Then driving the other day and randomly selecting a radio station, it was a talkback show that was taking calls about COVID and the jabs. All the callers were negative, talking about people they knew who had died from the jabs, the coercion etc. The radio host was doing his best to dissemble, but he sounded like a weak apologist.

What happens next? Dunno. When you look at the state of the 'justice' (ho ho) and regulatory systems, I find it hard to see how major perpetrators would have any meaningful action taken against them. You'd have to clean out most existing players to get that done, an unrealistic expectation IMO.

Shout-out to Charlie O

[https://openid-provider.appspot.com/bryanlallen]

In last week’s Coof #147, I posted a link to a NY Times piece listing five powerful reasons that the Coof likely came from the/a Wuhan lab (there are two of them there, it turns out…) and finished up my comment by saying:
>> “Kaboom!” goes the narrative…

Charlie O. replied, quite astutely: “If I had a dime for every time since 2020 I've heard that phrase or its equivalent...”

Hmmm. Charlie’s reply caused me to reflect a bit. I’ve now come to the preliminary conclusion that the reason for so many exposès NOT exploding the narrative is neatly summarized by a quote I saw:
“…when the truth comes out, that means they are now ready to release it—not because it’s the right thing to do, but because it fits into their plans to do so.”
(This comes from a decidedly odd substack, but the article itself has what I consider some real gems of insight: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/their-job-is-to-lie-they-are-going

So. Release an article that gives cover to Tony Fawchee in his upcoming testimony to Congress. Oh.

I’m now to the point where nearly every headline I see, I ask the question: Why is this being released NOW, and who will it benefit?

Thanks, Charlie, for pointing out the repetitiveness of “Narrative Kaboom” instances! Apparently, no kaboom in this case after all, but rather continuing Generation Five warfare propaganda releases. Uggg. 🤮

[(Anonymous)]

Here We Go: WHO Warns of New Bird Flu Strain Jumping to Humans Following Death of 59-Year-Old Man in Mexico

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/here-we-go-who-warns-new-bird-flu/

really seems like they want this to happen..

[drhooves]

I think we're at a point now that the actual threat of any new "bug" will not be important or get much of a response early on due to "plague fatigue". I think even the Black Death coming along and clipping the population at a 75% fatality rate would take a few months for the fear factor to ramp up.

We're just tapped out. At least I am.

And not unlike a nuclear war, some would want to be first in line to get it and escape from the fear - real or imagined.

[(Anonymous)]

US government announces new financial incentives for farms to stem the spread of bird flu in dairy cattle

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/health/bird-flu-government-farm-incentives/index.html?t

..from may 10 but ive only run across it now.

[(Anonymous)]

So if big corporate farms get paid for finding bird flu...
I'll wager that they'll find it. Anybody want to take that bet?

[(Anonymous)]

Govt Tracking Unvaccinated People Going To Doctor And Hospital Due To CDC-Designed Surveillance Program

https://vaticancatholic.com/govt-tracking-unvaccinated-people-going-to-doctor-and-hospital-due-to-cdc-designed-surveillance-program/

[methylethyl]

Are they also tracking vaccinated people? That'd be the really useful info to have...

[(Anonymous)]

Adopted IHR amendments strengthen surveillance and require countries to “address misinformation” – but countries have 10 months to reject them

There has been much coverage of the World Health Assembly adopting the amendments to the International Health Regulations. Unsurprisingly, this coverage has been in independent media and not in corporate media.

The following are brief descriptions of articles, podcasts and press conferences from various sources in recent days. Some of the concerns are the agreement for governments to “address” misinformation and disinformation, and the wording that further strengthens surveillance – thus laying the groundwork for the surveil-declare-threat-lockdown-coerced mass vaccination approach.

It is important to note that countries have 10 months to reserve or reject provisions, except those countries which rejected the 2022 amendments and so have 18 months. We must, therefore, keep raising awareness and put pressure on our governments to reject the amendments before the end of March 2025.

more at link

https://expose-news.com/2024/06/06/adopted-ihr-amendments-strengthen-surveillance-and/

[(Anonymous)]

A tough day for Australia’s Chief Medical Officer, Prof. Paul Kelly who crumbled in the face of Senator Malcolm Robert’s brilliant rapid fire questions.

Despite all that we now know he refused to acknowledge gain of function unless the WHO says so which in itself is disturbing and maintained the six feet rule is backed by science lol

He also confirmed the Govt. would drive vaccines for the next flu and not focus on health measures such as diet, exercise and vitamins.

https://nitter.poast.org/SaiKate108/status/1798272219493413124#m

[(Anonymous)]

Toby Rogers, Ph.D., M.P.P.
utobian

The dude who supposedly died of bird flu in Mexico had "chronic kidney disease and type 2 diabetes" and "had no history of exposure to poultry." Oh, so basically they made up the bird flu part. Because of course they did.

https://nitter.poast.org/uTobian/status/1798531704396910747#m

[(Anonymous)]

and died in March.

They had been waiting for WHO pandemic treaty to pass before ramping up the fear cycle.