Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 141

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

WHO Official Admits Vaccine Passports May Have Been A Scam

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/who-official-admits-vaccine-passports-may-have-been-scam

[(Anonymous)]

Many countries ordered at least ten doses of the vaccine for each citizen. I wonder if the plan was to have the vaccine passports in place for years, with everyone being required to take all ten doses?

If there was such a scheme, then some really basic science was overlooked: that there has never been a successful vaccine for any corona-virus, that an injection doesn't give mucosal immunity meaning that transmission won't be stopped, and that the virus mutates too fast for infection (and hence vaccination) to result in long term immunity. Really, they couldn't have chosen a worse virus to implement a vaccine passport system against.

[(Anonymous)]

Never thought I would see this in the comment section of nakedcapitalism -

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/04/more_economic_effects_our_ongoing_covid_pandemic_cognitive_dysfunction_labor_market.html#comment-4026975

Briefly, Lambert wrote a post on economic effect of covid, and someone commented "pandemic of the vaccinated". I am surprised Lambert did not yank that comment as "misinfo" or "anti-vax conspiracy".

[(Anonymous)]

Second comment is mine. They decided to moderate my comments after I put that one. So you see, they don't like the truth.

Alberta Updates mRNA Booster Guidance

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/alberta-updates-mrna-booster-guidance-to-every-three-months-starting-with-six-month-old-babies/53832

"Alberta updates mRNA booster guidance to every three months, starting with six-month-old babies

As of Monday, Alberta Health Services (AHS) has updated its guidance on mRNA COVID-19 booster shots to every three months, beginning with six-month-old babies.

That works out to about 320 doses for the average lifespan.

“Starting April 15, 2024, select groups of Albertans at high risk of severe outcomes from COVID-19 will be eligible for an additional dose,” AHS wrote on its website.

According to Alberta health officials, “All vaccines are safe, effective and save lives,” and it doesn’t matter if a patient takes a COVID-19 booster before, after, or at the same time as a flu shot.

That goes for babies as young as six months old. "

What happened to the new governor they elected last year?

Re: Alberta Updates mRNA Booster Guidance

[(Anonymous)]

"What happened to the new governor they elected last year?"

Ah - that would be Alberta Premier Danielle Smith. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.

About a year ago, she, along with every other provincial premier, met with prime sinister Turdeau and accepted the 30 pieces of federal silver for 'health care funding' and all the strings attached.

Ron M

Kunstler interview dr. Geert vaden Bossche

[(Anonymous)]

https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-398-dr-geert-vanden-bossche-and-the-coming-acute-crisis-of-covid-among-the-vaccinated/

Re: Kunstler interview dr. Geert vaden Bossche

[(Anonymous)]

We had plenty of discussion on this two weeks back.

A new geert interview is worth watching.

interview -

https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/will-geerts-fears-be-proved-correct

simplification of his comments -

https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/reanalysis-of-geerts-concern-for

A job opening if you are interested (and qualified)

[(Anonymous)]

"Biden Campaign Requires Employees to Be ‘Up to Date’ on COVID-19 Vaccines

The Biden campaign is requiring its employees to be “up to date” on COVID-19 vaccines, according to a job listing from the campaign, which is searching for a diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) director.

A recent job listing for the Biden campaign seems to be relatively run-of-the-mill, but the fine print reveals that the Biden campaign is still very focused on COVID-19 vaccines even though President Joe Biden largely lost his battles against the unvaccinated during his presidency.

The listing states:

Biden for President requires all employees to be “up to date” on COVID-19 vaccination status as prescribed by the CDC as a condition of employment, unless otherwise prohibited by applicable law. If you seek a reasonable accommodation in relation to the campaign’s COVID-19 policy, you should speak to the HR Department prior to reporting to an office location."

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/04/15/biden-campaign-requires-employees-to-be-up-to-date-on-covid-19-vaccines/

Re: A job opening if you are interested (and qualified)

[(Anonymous)]

COVID jab requirements are loyalty oaths used for weeding out dissenters, pure and simple.

If you want to be part of the Biden campaign or any Right Think brigade, you must say, believe, and do certain things, or you are completely unwelcome. Black Lives Matter / Reparations Now!, Trans Rights are Human Rights, I Stand Wit Ukraine, pronouns (in/parentheses) in your email signature, and up-to-date on jabs to prove that you F*+#ing Love Science!

There is literally no possible rational, health-based justification for this requirement. And yet, it totally makes sense that it's there. If I recall my sociology terms correctly, it's the difference between a manifest function (what something purports to do) and a latent function (what it really does). The latent function is often, as in this case, the more important to of the two.

Livid Reality

[(Anonymous)]

Here is a new phrase for people to use: Livid Reality. The PMC will quickly forget the lived reality of those they wish to master. Yet in time, they will feel the Livid Reality of those they have sidelined and left out!

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/lies-are-just-unreal-ed-dowd-rages-govts-media-continue-pretending-massive-health-crisis

“The fact that people will not even say that cancers are on the rise is pretty comical to me. Doctors were reporting it anecdotally, and now we have the data to prove it. This is where we are...

In 2022, I said that ‘60,000 millennials died excessively between March of 2021 and February of 2022. That was a Vietnam War.’ That tweet went viral, and Reuters and AP fact checked me and said no, our experts say that’s not true.

Now, even the establishment is saying there is excessive all-cause mortality. So, we are now in a stage where cancers are not rising. They are now denying that. The lies are just unreal.”

Are we at peak denial yet?

[(Anonymous)]

There was a surreal exchange in the British Parliament a year or so ago: in response to a question about excess deaths, a minister replied that they were a fact, but the government were not concerned because they were, mysteriously, happening everywhere, not just the UK. Perhaps lockdowns, etc.....

The pronouns meme

[(Anonymous)]

The pronouns meme
https://imgur.com/a/BPkOYQl

Re: The pronouns meme

[(Anonymous)]

Oh that is so very much correct.
Would anybody look at that and think, 'I"m (polite version) 'screwed.'

[(Anonymous)]

it looks like this started awhile ago.. i only now saw it.
but i am sure one can see it on replay.

WATCH LIVE: House Judiciary Committee Holds Hearing Titled, “Liberty, Tyranny, and Accountability: Covid-19 and the Constitution”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/watch-live-house-judiciary-committee-holds-hearing-titled/

[(Anonymous)]

I remember we discussed the Covid vaccines as being the tip of an ugly iceberg of increasingly dangerous attempts at genetic modification, and one example brought up was the modified bacteria that reduce cavity risks by changing the way that sugars in the mouth are metabolized. (Weirdly, no one seems to want to talk about the fact that cavities were exceptionally rare until sugar became a staple of people's diets. There were plenty of other teeth issues, but not cavities). Some of the risks were discussed here, but it turns out there's another risk: it might increase the risk of oral cancer.

Alcohol consumption is a major risk factor for oral cancer for everyone. Some people have genetics that result in alcohol being converted to acetaldehyde, a major carcinogen, and then not being broken down further. If these people consume alcohol, their risk of oral cancer skyrockets; and there is a concern the local concentration might be high enough to cause these risks.

I have no idea if it will be or not, but I find it mildly disturbing that these risks are only being identified, by random people and not the regulators, after it has already hit the market, since it might become a permanent fixture of our microbiome...

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/jGu4nLgQYwfsoxddu/reconsider-the-anti-cavity-bacteria-if-you-are-asian

[(Anonymous)]

On Magic Monday, I noted that there is a disturbing similarity between the kind of people who respond to the news they're dying with a frantic energy: burning through everything they have, wracking up massive debts, and the like. It's just occurred to me that the Covid vaccines, and the sudden rise in approval for genetic engineering in general, matches another pattern that sometimes happens when people find out they are about to die; and it often plays out in the same people doing the "massive orgy of spending" thing: trying some completely insane, often experimental, medical treatment that probably won't work and runs a real risk of killing them faster and in a much more gruesome and ugly fashion.

Given how aging is hardwired into human biology, the only way to get around it is modifying our genetics. This has never happened, because there are sound reason not to risk doing any genetic engineering; and no one understands how aging works at a genetic level anyway. But, theoretically, it should be possible to stop aging by altering the human genome. The fact that no one knows how does not mean it can't be done: and there is always a chance of any further research showing how to do it.

The Covid vaccines then had to be mRNA, not because there was a sound reason for it, but because the inner logic of the situation. The fear of Covid was, at its core, the fear of death felt by the Boomers, who are, after all, becoming the elderly who bad flu seasons always kill. An ordinary vaccine isn't enough to calm that fear; but a vaccine that "proves" genetic technology is "safe and effective" is enough, because it holds the promise of curing aging. This is also why the floodgates opened wide shortly after: genetic engineering is the insane medical treatment that the Boomers are, collectively, deciding to try in order to prevent their impending death.

[charlieobert]

Just for fun I did a search on "anti-aging vaccine" - and sure enough I got numerous hits, mostly variants on this story -

https://www.euronews.com/health/2021/12/14/can-we-live-forever-new-anti-ageing-vaccine-could-bring-immortality-one-step-closer

[(Anonymous)]

P.S. Papa, thanks for letting me be a whore here for a moment. I have to go take a shower now.
(smile)

li'l update, Peter Maravelis and i are back to plotting scheming and discussing culture and an underground again after more than a decade doing our own thangs.

more to share here later. i'm living life like a banana peel bob sled. seeing 555 a lot... that's the time James' died. boo!

but when Peter and i plot and scheme about how to make terra firma for the next generation of super freaks, i was sad James isn't here to inhabit the world i wanted to create for him.

Peter said, "he'd want you to follow up on it."

i laughed. PERFECT. yeah. follow up on our idea. okay...

(smile)

x

erika

thanks you each for holding me in the light and keeping me in the game and allowing me to dip into whoredom now and then. ugh. but that website looks good for not knowing what i'm doing. by the time i paid myself 5 cents to test it, i was ecstatic.

techonology... can't live with it... can live without it.

Bots?

[(Anonymous)]

This week's meme image is scathing, thank you for that.

Question-- how do you suggest we react to bots?
Once in awhile, such as on a recent Magic Monday, I see a comment that looks like it was written by Bing-- a kind of slightly wild-eyed, "2 + 2 = petunia" vibe to it.
Should we call these out?
Or just be polite (like you were to the MM commenter) and treat them like they're human?

I may be a bit spoiled by my time on Reddit where, if commenters thought someone was a bot, they were utterly ruthless about calling it out.

Thanks!

Re: Bots?

[ecosophia]

The difficulty is that accusing someone of being a bot can also be a way of shutting down discussion. If you spot something on one of my forums that you think is a bot, either being polite or just ignoring it are probably the better options.

[(Anonymous)]

I did 'research' tonight for a arts project I've put hundreds of hours into and set aside.
Scooping up info online and 'exporting the material' as PDFs into a file folder I started thinking
about the life I had once. I looked up somebody I once worked with.
Skipping through the photos I see this person lost a grandchild, teenager, 'suddenly' - no
mention of a cause in the various accounts I found. No donations requested to cancer research
or mental health or anything. No reason given. Just 'suddenly.'
You know, of course, what I suspect. This happened over a year ago. Maybe if it happened today the friends
and family would have, even privately, considered a certain possibility. Normally families want some resolution
in the case of, say, a drunk driver who took a loved one. There is a sense of the unjust, the unfair, the criminal
behaviour at fault needing to be addressed. Some sort of spell must have been cast to keep people so disconnected
from their emotions, gut feelings, and cognitive processes. So yeah I buy into the demonic hypothesis in some way shape
or form VIA the organs of media, government and the 'health' industry.

[charlieobert]

>> Some sort of spell must have been cast to keep people so disconnected from their emotions, gut feelings, and cognitive processes.

Is there the possibility that the vaccine itself is part of what is causing that disconnect - that the effect of the vaccine is not "just physical", whatever that means?

Given that might be the case - should those who are working to protect themselves from the effects of shedding be including mental and spiritual means of protection?

I'm thinking out loud for myself here - I'm in a choir with another month and a half to go in our season, and I increasingly get the sense I should be adding spiritual protection like setting up an aura shield when I go up into the choir. Fortunately it doesn't take much visualization and care to turn crossing myself with holy water into a full-fledged aura shield.

Does anyone else here use spiritual means for functioning among the vaxxed along with whatever physical means you use?

12th April, Dr Aseem Malhotra, Helsinki District Court, Oral Deposition as Expert Witness.

[(Anonymous)]

well worth a listen,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvGCtM25fN0

this rather validates JMG's initial projected scenario that kicked off this thread,

I'm so stoked that I declined the vaccine when it was offered, I was basing my decision at that time more on gut instinct than rational analysis, because there simply wasn't the information available to give my informed consent.

Re: 12th April, Dr Aseem Malhotra, Helsinki District Court, Oral Deposition as Expert Witness.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm glad you're happy with the decision you made and it was the right one.
But as for me being enthusiastic - I'm at the point where I think only a miracle of some sort
will save us.
Maybe a slow motion miracle. Maybe a series of miracles.
But it (whatever it is) spread into us too.

Week 141 - Thank you - and a note on Hedley Rees

[(Anonymous)]

Week 141 of this mega-strange marathon.

Thank you, JMG, and thankyou, forumistas. This forum remains a unique and precious oasis.

Earlier this week I finally read Hedley Rees' book THE COVID-19 SUPPLY CHAIN: FACT NOT FICTION, which you can find on amazon, paperback or Kindle.

Rees is an expert on pharmaceutical industry logistics and supply chain management. His substack is https://hedleyrees.substack.com
He keeps a lot of his content behind a paywall, but enough peeks out that it's worth checking in on.

THE COVID-19 SUPPLY CHAIN: FACT NOT FICTION is very short, inexpensive (whether paperback or Kindle), and I highly recommend it. I do not think the title accurately describes the contents, however. It's more like an insider's exposition on changes in the pharmaceutical industry's organization in recent decades, with regards to drug development, supply chain and logistics, thus providing crucial context for the horror of what was about to slam down in 2020-present with the covid jabs.

I have not yet read Hedley Rees' other books. I note that Rees has a new one just out from Wiley, which I am aware, is a prestigeous (...if prestige still means anything...) publisher of scientific works.

Cetiosaurus

[ecosophia]

Erika (offlist), I can't edit comments here -- all I can do is approve or delete them. I've deleted your comment, so you can repost it with the necessary detail changed.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I thought so and thank you!
See, RobQ? Took care of it.

X

Erika

[(Anonymous)]

Newly discovered emails...

Ecohealth's Peter Daszak: "we have 15,000 samples in freezers in Wuhan"
https://ecohealthalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Emails-02.pdf

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1780302833394290968

Abbreviated Whore Re-Post

[(Anonymous)]

This is my new store for fundraising for a lawyer, because Lord knows the lawyers need it:

https://kittenlopez.square.site/

Thank you,

Erika Lopez

Re: Abbreviated Whore Re-Post

[temporaryreality]

I second Scotlyn's idea to create a new "product" called "hugs" or whatever, at a "choose your own price."

Or sign up for "buy me a coffee" or something.

Make it easy for us!

[(Anonymous)]

here is an article to add to the above rand paul emails post:

Rand Paul finally dug up the emails everyone’s been waiting for. Buckle up, Fauci…

https://revolver.news/2024/04/rand-paul-finally-dug-up-the-emails-everyones-been-waiting-for-buckle-up-fauci/

[(Anonymous)]

EXCLUSIVE: Whistleblower Who Exposed A Blatant Oversight in the VA’s Policy for Veterans With Vaccine-Related Injury Goes Public

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/exclusive-whistleblower-who-exposed-blatant-oversight-vas-policy/

[(Anonymous)]

Confirmed: Researchers Reveal COVID mRNA Vaccines Contain Component that Suppresses Immune Response and Stimulates Cancer Growth

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/researchers-reveal-covid-mrna-vaccines-contain-component-that/

[stubborn_ass]

Just a point of emphasis - this is just one of the many ways in which the shots 'enhance' the development of cancer. We've seen from enough anec-data how various turbo-cancers are occuring, in very different areas of the body, at quite varying speeds - e.g. prostrate cancer which normally took decades and many men would normally die of old age before prostrate cancer took them - is now a year or two. Other cancers which normally have a 3-5 year prognosis shortened to a few months... and also cases of healthy young folks who complain of some shoulder aches and then knock off in less than a week. The average normie can't comprehend that the 'researchers' doing their "gain of function" stuff tried to incorporate sequences of pretty much every nasty thing they had in storage. All those prior actions (and unfortunately it's still ongoing) tell us the folks who directed such research had not a lick of common sense, or any modicum of self-preservation. It didn't surprise me that other researchers found HIV sequences in the coof genome etc.

This is not a rant, as what's done is done.

So early on as we were trying out different ways to detox and protect ourselves from the shedding, I knew that there were also secondary effects which we would have to eventually nip in the bud. Since it's hard to take like 30-50 pills/compounds to address all the issues we're seeing, the goal was to find stuff that provided more broad-spectrum protection/detox, cheap/affordable, and safe to take on a long-term basis as we were noticing shedding effects from others even 4-5mths after their last shots. There were many dark days... not being able to go to a mall didn't bother me. No dining out? Not the end of the world. But my son looking like he was a victim of chemical warfare after his classmates started jabbing? That was a daily and constant reminder that time as of the essence and I had my work cut out for me. Progress in the first few months was painstackingly slow, as I had to rebuild my entire understanding of our bodies, various compounds and figuring where the truths and lies were within the system of 'knowledge' that was drummed into us via schooling/MSM etc. When my son partook in youth sports, and the other parents would try to 'advise' me about which skin specialist to see or which doctor was good - I had to smile politely, tell them we're aware.. and bite my tongue, as internally I'm railing - it's you and your kids stupidly shooting up that's causing this issues - a 2 month break from school and his skin is almost pristine again, and as my wife has reminded me, there was a level of stoicism from my son that was very unusual, as he patiently tried out the various remedies I was trialling to resolve the issues. Once or twice he had a small mental break... but otherwise demonstrated remarkable fortitude. My wife was so stressed that she threatened to bring our son to see the doctor a few times, and I had to keep explaining that their default remedy would be to prescribe some strong steriod cream - which would serve to calm down an overactive immune system, but being immune-suppressive would generate a lot more issues down the line... and thankfully there would be obvious progress within a week and she would lose that insistence. Pressure pressure pressure.

Yet I am still profoundly grateful, as my understanding of how things worked improved and more successful remedies were implemented, the health benefits accrued to everyone in the family...

[(Anonymous)]

NFL Superstar Aaron Rodgers Claims HIV/AIDS was a Government-Engineered Pandemic in 1980’s

Aaron Rodgers, celebrated quarterback for the New York Jets, has sparked a storm of controversy following remarks made on the “Look Into It” podcast, where he suggested that the HIV/AIDS pandemic of the 1980s was a government-engineered crisis, with Dr. Anthony Fauci playing a corrupt role.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/nfl-superstar-aaron-rodgers-controversially-claims-hiv-aids/

[(Anonymous)]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Denver


The fact that is part of the official effort to discredit and blame it on KGB propaganda IMHO makes it even more likely.

Let's not forget that besides the biological warfare there is also informational warfare.

That's why the point the AI gun against people that recieve non-rational information.

AIDS like BoVID was seen by many with psychic power to have an "artificial" and demonic bent around it.

"Only One Harm From mRNA COVID Vaccines, Report Determines"

[(Anonymous)]

Only One Harm From mRNA COVID Vaccines, Report Determines
— Independent reviewers reject causal links to infertility, myocardial infarction, stroke

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/109700

After actually reading the article I could propose an equally true headline: "Researchers fail to rule out sudden death as a COVID vaccine side-effect"

[(Anonymous)]

Today is the day, another historic debate on the Covid-19 pandemic response and trends in excess deaths.

This will be the first full length debate on this subject in the House of Commons chamber, which followed the resounding successes of my adjournment debate and Westminster Hall debate.

Tune in on Parliament TV or BBC Parliament from around 2:30 pm.

https://nitter.poast.org/ABridgen/status/1780858470624850029#m