Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 132

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I do try to avoid processed food, and to the extent that I use sweeteners, I usually stick with honey, maple syrup, brown sugar, and white sugar (usually in that order of preference) and try to use only in moderation.

But I'm not sure about the social classes correlation. In my experience, the people most likely to "wig out" over cooties were the PMC, and a lot of them are very health-conscious about food - they're the ones who can afford organic produce, grass-fed meats, unprocessed foods, and/or gourmet prepared foods made with the best ingredients. They also have themselves and their children stabbed with ungodly numbers of jabs and submit to every possible medical screening, but generally, their diets tend to be better than most. One of the many ironies of Cootiemania was watching "health conscious" people who eat right and exercise and who were at low risk from a respiratory virus freak out over the Wu Flu, hide in their homes for a year, and then race out to be injected with experimental who-knows-what.

[(Anonymous)]

I grew up in a PMC household, and I completely disagree. I agree with you that that is how it's portrayed all the time, and how the PMC likes to present itself, but behind the scenes, the PMC diet is pretty bad.

One of the problems with the PMC is that a lot of them follow the medical advice, and so do weird things like cut out sugar in preference of using fructose, because the medical advice is that fructose is preferable since it has less of an effect on blood sugar. My parents do this; they have done this since I was a child. Also, the reason so many PMC appear to be so health-conscious about food is that it's an attempt to claim status, to claim they don't eat McDonald's like those people; but having worked in fast food, I can tell you a lot of very well dressed people come through the drive thru at very weird hours, and order fairly large meals. I lived in a very PMC neighborhood, and found the drive thru was quite often insanely busy overnight, because the members of the PMC needed a midnight "snack". I also grew up on a typical PMC diet, granted a while ago now, but even then it was an open secret among the members of the PMC that their standard diet will not work unless supplemented with copious amounts of junk food, consumed secretly at home. For some reason this usually took the form of copious amounts of sweets.

Then there's also the fact the PMC bought all in on the health scare around fat; and that the only way to avoid fat is to up consumption of carbs. Plenty of members of the PMC will instinctively buy the low fat version of things; which almost always are sweetened to make them palatable. So as much as the PMC tries to portray itself as health conscious, there is a massive amount of junk in their diets, and a huge amount of fructose.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen less of the junk-food eating among the PMC I know (including former roommates), but you may be right about the hidden sugar. They do seem more likely to choose low-fat versions of things, and there may also be a lot of "stealth fructose" in things like salad dressing, greek yogurt, gourmet breads, chutneys and glazes, fruit smoothies, etc. But is it really any more than the typical American diet heavy in processed foods?

Junk Food Junkie

[(Anonymous)]

Reminds me of the old song 'Junk Food Junkie' by Larry Groce, which has the line, "And they call me Mr. Natural..."