Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 131

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Federal agencies refuse to cooperate with Florida grand jury investigating COVID-19 vaccines, interim report reveals

https://nypost.com/2024/02/02/news/federal-agencies-refuse-to-cooperate-with-florida-grand-jury-probing-covid-19-vaccines-report/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost_sitebuttons

[(Anonymous)]

Another fracture between state and federal government and state government. Once distances grow the tension can grow and potential difference can result in kinetic discharges.

[(Anonymous)]

Thailand Issues Warning About COVID Jabs: ‘They Cause Cancer and Brain Tumours’

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/thailand-issues-warning-about-covid-jabs-they-cause-cancer-and-brain-tumours/

[methylethyl]

Go, go, Thailand!

[(Anonymous)]

King Charles Diagnosed With Cancer

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/king-charles-diagnosed-cancer

[(Anonymous)]

I doubt it's jab related. The royal family use homeopathy not conventional medicine. They just pretend to for the plebs.

Overton

[methylethyl]

Reposting here: looks like the new open post went up while I was typing this on the last one!

For those of y'all looking for a shift in the Overton Window, general attitudes about covid and the shots, and what is and is not acceptable to say out loud:

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/flying-tuesday-february-6-2024-c

Jeff Childers thinks there's been a noticeable move, it's the last section of today's issue of C&C. He's talking about a recent no-holds-barred rant by Joe Rogan on the subject, which doesn't seem to have got *any* pushback or the usual cancellation calls from the usual suspects.

And then he notes:
"On a personal level, just in the last two weeks I have had several (at least three) painful and difficult conversations with people who now deeply regret taking the shots, and are now plagued with worry over every tiny disruption in their health status, wondering if this is it."

Note: this guy may be the author of C&C-- I mean, we all know how he feels about these issues, but he lives in *Gainesville FL* home of the University of Florida, and it is the weirdest, Blue-est, most totally disconnected-from-reality mindwarp bubble of insane liberal progressiveness in our entire state. I've lived there. It's truly an alien culture. So if he's seeing it in *Alachua County*, that says a lot.

Re: Overton

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for this. I read that, too, and thought it was highly significant.

Haha, as you write, "totally disconnected-from-reality mindwarp bubble of insane liberal progressiveness"— I'm not in Florida, but that describes my scene. I honestly do not know how I could have kept on some kind of a keel without this forum.

Long Covid and working class

[(Anonymous)]

Naked capitalism has posted a couple striking links about Long Covid, related to income and education levels, based on census bureau surveys. Since frontline and essential workers are those most exposed, maybe it is not surprising that those with less than a college degree are hit so hard. Families with the higher incomes have less risk too - they can afford better filters, less crowding, ventilation upgrades and have more work from home options.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/02/links-2-6-2024.html

FRED disability graph (for all disabled workers, not just long covid), shows a sharp increase in disability rates, with persisting rise since 2020/2021
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU00074597

Re: Long Covid and working class

[(Anonymous)]

Ah yes Susan Webber, fake leftist populism from a fake leftist!

http://www.auroraadvisors.com/resume_webber.html

Susan Webber

Experience:

Aurora Advisors Incorporated and affiliates, 1989-present. Founder.

Built a management consulting firm in New York and Sydney. Projects include:
Financial services

Managed the profitable start-up of a trading service including negotiating with prospective clients; overseeing the development of contracts; resolving back office issues; determining training and support needs; assessing pricing and likely financial results. First month's operating profits were $5 million, 5 times the fully-loaded start-up costs
For an international credit card organization, devised improvements in governance, solicitation, training and support for their international joint venture partners (5 continents), setting the foundation for a rapid increase in growth from 12 partners to over 60
For a top derivatives firm, identified an overlooked product area, leading to multiple transactions, typically $1 million of trading profit each

Transaction advisory

Recommended which stock was most attractive over 3-5 year horizon of 5 possible buyers in the $1.4 billion sale of a cable business. Stock chosen appreciated over 300%; next best improved only 50%; rest held or lost value for a difference in outcomes of over $2 billion
Successfully vetted investments for the technology investment arm of a major hedge fund, including superhard materials, advanced batteries, thin-film solar panels
Assisted a media holding company in renegotiating a $1.5 billion joint venture, including valuation, analyzing various financing options, assessing financial and business implications of the partner's proposals
Helped raise funds for the sale of a software business by a major bank

The Sumitomo Bank, Ltd., 1987-1989. Head of Mergers and Acquisitions.

Established and led a New York-based mergers and acquisitions department for the world's second-largest bank. As part of worldwide effort, achieved top position in U.S.-Japan transactions in 1988 and first half of 1989.

McKinsey & Company, Inc., 1983-1987. Engagement Manager.

Devised investment banking strategy and assisted Sumitomo Bank in making $500 million investment in Goldman Sachs. Served international financial institutions extensively on strategy, organization, assessment of acquisitions and new ventures, and operational effectiveness projects. Evaluated investments for the firm.

Goldman, Sachs & Co., 1981-1983. Associate, Corporate Finance.

Participated in the firm's acquisition of J. Aron & Company. Worked on 18 public offerings, several private placements as well as real estate financings, leveraged buy-outs, and merger and corporate finance advisory projects.

Salomon Brothers, 1980. Associate.

Divided summer between corporate finance and mortgage finance.

Education:

Harvard Graduate School of Business Administration, 1979-1981 M.B.A. Concentrated in Finance and General Management. Baker Scholar. Loeb Fellow (finance prize)

Harvard College, 1975-1979 A.B. Concentrated in History and Literature (honors major). Phi Beta Kappa (elected junior year, top 2% of class)

[(Anonymous)]

BREAKING: Weaponization Committee reveals Amazon censored books critical of COVID vaccines at request of Biden WH

The demands were made by a senior Biden official named Andy Slavitt.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-weaponization-committee-reveals-amazon-censored-books-critical-of-covid-vaccines-at-request-of-biden-wh?utm_campaign=64483

Tumor Tuesday?

[charlieobert]

We have Magic Monday and Frugal Friday.

After scanning the news this morning - and looking at two of the first three posts here - I wonder if we should nickname this forum,

Tumor Tuesday.

Re: Tumor Tuesday?

[(Anonymous)]

While tumors do seem more timely just at the moment, I'm awfully fond of the moniker Tachycardia Tuesday. After all, that can get shortened down to the endearingly diminutive Tachy Tuesday, or even Tachy Tue. It's all just Tue Tachy, don't you think?

Should we end up so frightened that we can't even laugh about our own deaths, what on earth will we have left to laugh about?

— Christophe

Soon we will not be able to read JMG from microsoft-powered laptops

[(Anonymous)]

Microsoft To Disable Computers of Users Who Share ‘Non-Mainstream Content’ Online

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/microsoft-to-disable-computers-of-users-who-share-non-mainstream-content-online/

For those, who think this is far-fetched, Microsoft runs the public wifis of a bunch of malls and other places. They block many non-mainstream websites, including some alternate news sites, from those places.

Re: Soon we will not be able to read JMG from microsoft-powered laptops

[(Anonymous)]

If they have that capability what else have they backdoored and are using already?

Get off those corporate platforms. Now.

[(Anonymous)]

Hi all! Thanks to JMG for continuing to host this.

Does anyone have any good current resources they'd recommend in terms of repairing damage caused by jabs or fixing the immune system post jab?

Thanks very much 🙏🏻

[(Anonymous)]

FLCCC protocols -- https://covid19criticalcare.com/protocol/i-recover-post-vaccine-treatment/

[(Anonymous)]

So, I'm pulling this quote from last week's thread on diabetes, because it jogged something in my memory and made me connect two different discussions here: "This then distorts all future scientific research, because there's now an established paradigm which all studies need to fit within, making the problem even worse."

The "established paradigm" into which everything must fit made me think of something, which led to another thing....

As I've probably mentioned before, I've wondered for a while about the impact of smallpox management, including vaccination, on the establishment's approach to all other viruses. Vaccination was literally created for smallpox, and (whatever your thoughts on how smallpox was really eliminated) the fact is, we got rid of smallpox.

And now, it sure seems like the established paradigm for all infectious disease is smallpox: the assumption is that one, the disease is always dangerous; two, you deal with viral diseases by creating a vaccine, vaccinating widely, tracking any outbreaks, isolating and quarantining infected persons; and three - if everyone just does as they are told by the experts! - you can get rid of the virus for good.

Of course, the problem is that even if you assume this paradigm is right for and worked against smallpox (which may be a reasonable assumption), that does not mean that it's right for any other virus that causes infectious disease; not everything is smallpox! But that fact doesn't matter; the established paradigm for viruses is the Smallpox Paradigm, and the establishment is devoted to it like a religion.

The "something else" just clicked this morning was the "like a religion" part.

There were some other threads about the god of smallpox coming back with a vengeance, and I wondered, what if the god's punishment for eliminating his disease is not to bring back his disease, but to punish humanity by convincing them to treat all other diseases the same way, to disastrous effect?

If you establish a quasi-religious belief that all infectious viral diseases should fit the Smallpox Paradigm, then what might happen?

Maybe you will go bonkers trying to develop vaccines for literally every disease - no matter how mild, and no matter how poorly-suited the disease is for control by vaccines - and force those vaccines on every child, until you actually make them sicker in a desperate, and totally insane, quest to eliminate all diseases like you did with smallpox? And people will start to freak out in irrational horror over things like outbreaks of mild diseases ("OMG, there's a CHICKEN POX outbreak at my kids' school!! Stupid anti-vaxxers should go to jail!!"). Pharmaceutical companies will come to control the medical systems, politicians, and the media. Eventually you might even cause the devotees of the All Viruses Fit The Smallpox Paradigm religion to create a giant global mess by treating a mild flu-like illness as a deadly pandemic that could be controlled and eliminated the way smallpox was, and you just make everything worse - and people sicker and poorer and more miserable and more likely to "die suddenly" - in the process.

I don't know, maybe I'm making connections where there are none, but that's what crossed my mind this morning.

[(Anonymous)]

Was smallpox really a success? The vaccination program was terminated when the disease was deemed to be successfully eradicated, some 45 years ago more or less. But consider this:

1. Everyone who ever had any immunity (by vaccination or otherwise) is now more than 50 years old, and therefore now beyond childbearing age.
2. No currently pracitising health care provider has any practical experience treating the disease.
3. The vaccine is no longer available - remaining inventory passed its expiry date decades ago.
4. The virus was eradicated, not eliminated: it could still be out there in parts unknown, and there could therefore be a new case at any time; what happens then?

Has the medical profession really done humanity a favor by eradicating smallpox? True, nobody currently suffers from that horrible disease; but as soon as one person comes down with it, it could be the Black Death all over again.

[(Anonymous)]

here is a 5 min audio recording from reiner fuellmich giving us an update:

UPDATE: Dr. Reiner Fuellmich Finally Speaks Out Following the Start of His Trial

https://rumble.com/v4bciex-update-dr.-reiner-fuellmich-finally-speaks-out-following-the-start-of-his-t.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=2

[(Anonymous)]

this is from sept 2023, but i only just saw it a couple days ago on naomi wolf's twitter. someone had reposted it.
at the link, there is a one min or so short clip, so i am not sure where to get the whole interview, but below it is the full transcript. I thought it was worth sharing for ppl to read.

Dr. David Bell: Public Health Is Moving Toward ‘International Fascism’

https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/dr-david-bell-public-health-is-moving-toward-international-fascism-5500635

[(Anonymous)]

Covid inquiry postpones vaccine investigation


https://www.bbc.com/news/health-67935037

[(Anonymous)]

This is a Dr in the UK who is seeing so many adverse events. Babies born underweight, people in their 30s having strokes, male infertility at unprecedented levels etc. He asks other Doctors to speak out as they can't fire them all.

https://twitter.com/CartlandDavid/status/1754470254867001550

[(Anonymous)]

I hate to break it to Dr. David Cartland, but he's living in Airstrip One. Firing all the doctors is a best case scenario. He should be expecting a visit from MiniLuv here shortly.

I agree.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you. It is vital that everyone agree to respecting other peoples opinion.

Re: I agree.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks, Bing!

Covid 19 is not a vaccine

[(Anonymous)]

I am tired of the medical industry and the CDC calling this a vaccine when we know it is not a vaccine no matter how many tines they insist on calling it so. This is actually a booster like the Flu shot, but with deadly side effects which the flu shot does not have. I mean this "Vaccine" actually plays with your dna talk about dangerous. I cannot believe people are still running to take a total of 8 shots and going for every new shot that comes out.

These companies should be held responsible for all of the severe injuries and deaths it has caused.

[(Anonymous)]

A New York County Pays $750,000 to Families Whose Unvaccinated Kids Were Barred From School During Measles Outbreak

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rockland-new-york-measles-settlement-unvaccinated-children/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=defender&utm_id=20240205

Finally – Some Good Coutts News!

[(Anonymous)]

For those who follow the ongoing saga of Canadian political prisoners who were incarcerated on spurious charges during the Freedom Convoy and border blockades of February 2022 (all triggered by a refusal to get injected with government-mandated experimental goo), I finally have some good news to report on the ‘Coutts 4’ – the four Alberta men who have been held in remand for over 700 days without even a pre-trial. Well, today was the start of the pre-trial and right off the bat two of the four men have been released! I refused to believe it until I received confirmation from three different authoritative sources. Yes, it is true. Both Chris Lysak and Jerry Morin pled guilty to minor fire-arms offences (basically, having a rifle in their pickup trucks when they went to the protest at the Coutts, Alberta border – which was stupid, but it is a fact of life in rural Alberta). All the really nasty ‘conspiracy to murder an RCMP officer’ charges were dropped and the men walked free, time already served in remand.

This news is significant at two levels. One – which hits home really hard – is that Chris Lysak is a single father of two small girls. After two years less a week these girls will be able to see their daddy again! The other level is that of the four Coutts political prisoners, Lysak was the one who we all expected to be taken down hardest by the Law, as he was the only one who had personal contact with Jeremy MacKenzie, evil mastermind of the dangerous meme country Diagolon and General of the non-existent Plaid Army (who, by the way, has never been investigated by the RCMP – funny, eh?). It is hard to imagine that if the ‘gang-leader’ who supposedly received orders to murder police is let free, charges dropped, that any charges at all will stick with the two remaining in remand (Chris Carbert and Tony Olienick). Time shall tell.

Anyway, I couldn’t contain myself any longer. Freedom! Liberté! Justice!

Ron M

Re: Finally – Some Good Coutts News!

[(Anonymous)]

Im glad they are no longer in jail, but shouldnt they be able to sue or have some compensation for serving 2 YEARS with no conviction what wouel warrant that time in jail ? His minor firearms misdemener violation would not be given a 2 year jail term ! Probation or a small fine would be the punishment. SO, what about the 2 years served for no reason ?

Do they get to "bank: that time so if they are ever convicted of something they get 2 years off for time served ? DO they get compensated for lost wages even ?

Public Health

[(Anonymous)]

Covid caused and/or demonstrated just how badly our public health system is functioning. Not just in the US, but Europe, Israel and others too. US longevity peaked in 2014, but took a worse hit from Covid than most other developed countries. Public health gave us cleaner water and less infectious diseases for a long time, contributing to rapidly improving longevity and other parameters for a century. CDC still posts these mortality numbers.

The US recently had its first polio case in decades, and measles are popping up semi-regularly. This is likely to worsen as trust is lost, and even the best vaccines for horrible diseases like polio, are skipped. I am sad to see such ill-function in public health, both locally and nationally.

https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2024/01/24/negligence-by-experts-in-the-early-response-to-covid-19/ well referenced, inc origen

https://www.thegauntlet.news/p/institutional-covid-denial-has-killed (public health) ... it seems we may become responsible for clearing cholera from our water and pollutants/tuberculosis from the air.

Re: Public Health

[(Anonymous)]

I just want to mention that the standard vaccine in the US for polio has been changed from the oral one to an injection. I have the impression that newer research is finding that vaccines work better if administered the same route as the disease. So, for polio, oral. So some polio cases could just be from the current standard vaccine being less effective.

Also, manufacturers and doctors like to combine multiple vaccines in one shot or appointment, despite the research finding that use of combined vaccines correlates with increased SIDS risk. So, some parents want to avoid combined vaccines. But finding a vaccine for just polio is now difficult. So...some parents may just not do it, some may delay it...etc.

[(Anonymous)]

Melancholy of... when the world was less crazy?

[ecosophia]

No, it's a personal issue. I'll be making an announcement in another day or two.

[(Anonymous)]

Much of this is a behind a paywall so I can't go into too much detail but I think it really is important to know about the work of insider & whistleblower pharmaceutical supply chain management expert Hedley Rees.

Hedley Rees' substack is here:
https://hedleyrees.substack.com/about

A portion of his posts are free.

He's the author Supply Chain Management in the Drug Industry: Delivering Patient Value for Pharmaceuticals and Biologics, Wiley, 2011.

Praying for the Died Suddenlies

[charlieobert]

We've talked a lot on this forum about the increased number of people who are dying suddenly, and before their natural time, due to effects of the vaxx. I want to talk about praying for those recently dead.

I always include prayers for the dead in my daily routine, especially for those recently deceased that I know about. I recently am getting the feeling that it is really, really important to offer up prayers for the "Died Suddenlies" and those dying prematurely in general - I feel a really strong need there and a call for help - and that includes a call that I share this request here.

Those of you who already pray for the deceased likely know that they are very, very grateful for the prayer attention, and are happy to return the favor by praying for you.

For those of you who pray regularly, I ask that you consider adding prayers for the Died Suddenlies and others who are dying too soon, and follow your own intuition on that.

Re: Praying for the Died Suddenlies

[(Anonymous)]

+1 for the need to do this and for its efficacy, thanks for saying this. There's a lot of non-sympathy for the vaxxed out there which really doesn't help anybody. I've found it very helpful to pray for them regularly both while they're still here and once they are not.

[(Anonymous)]

mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Caused More Deaths Than Saved: Peer-Reviewed Study

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/mrna-covid-19-vaccines-caused-more-deaths-saved-study

[(Anonymous)]

A voice cries out in the wilderness...

HOW MUCH LONGER!?!

Seriously, how much longer before people have had enough.

I did all I could to avoid this poison and it almost destroyed my marriage. I'm still not convinced it's in tact.

All my focus now is to protect my children.

I fear some nurse rolling into their school one day, pushing this garbage behind our backs. This is the modern world, clown world. I know demon hypothesis gets a lot of traction but I truly see the angry god, angry at our hubris, our arrogance. Well not ours but clowns in charge... They have really made a mess of things.

How much longer before we say enough?

My favorite nuggets from the above.

“It is unethical and unconscionable to administer an experimental vaccine to a child who has a near-zero risk of dying from COVID-19 but a well-established 2.2 percent risk of permanent heart damage based on the best prospective data available.”

“The FDA and the CDC are supposed to protect the people, but they have become the lapdog of the pharmaceutical industry. This must change.”

Now is the time of monsters...

General health...

[(Anonymous)]

The covid years have definitely taken a toll on me, despite avoiding the jab experiment. Midwestern doctors substack has a good article on shedding (many other good articles there). It seems that either some round of currently circulating viruses or shedding is making me half-sick most of the time. Heart feels weak, all physical effort is exhausting, blood sugar acts weird, stuffy nose etc. Mostly living in survival mode. But recently tried an old-fashioned remedy: royal jelly. Feels like I have a life again after 1 month use. Happened to find 100% real thing from a shop. Often what is advertised as royal jelly is mixed with all sorts of stuff.

I use natto and have been trying all sorts of things, many have helped some, but not really changed the general malaise. I do not know if it is the shedding or what that causes the misery to just keep on going. I do not think I can be on royal jelly for the rest of my life. But I am glad for the respite!

I am also glad about this resource our thrice great host has been providing for a long time now. How many are we, who have been able to remain sane because of this? No small merit to provide a life-raft to a bunch of strangers. Sometimes I've thought about suggesting renaming this to something like polycrisis sightings, as we seem to be circling the sinkhole faster and faster. But tumor tuesday has a gallows humor that appeals.
Pallid Maniacal Centaur

Re: General health...

[(Anonymous)]

Wonderful that you found royal jelly. I'm a big fan of apitherapy, always game to experiment. My experiments of late have been with tonics made with good quality raw honey (most supermarket honey is crap, by the way). These tonics are working well for me, most notably, I find I have more energy and mental clarity.

I sometimes feel kind of beat up after nearly 4 years of this cooties bizarro tyranny and social weirdness, and all the losses of friends and family most especially. My health is good, but it has been traumatic for me on many levels, and now that I'm gaining more perspective on it with time, this is becoming clearer to me-- it's been a wild, weird, ghastly, exhausting ride. More to go. I'll be fine. It is what it is. More than anything, I'm so glad to be alive.

Agree 100% that this forum has been a lifesaver.

Will the demon be satisfied with the PMC level of pain

[(Anonymous)]

Wouldn't be a thing if Tucker interview is published on 24th of February 2024?

Re: Will the demon be satisfied with the PMC level of pain

[(Anonymous)]

Already the PMC and the waxxine crowd is going crazy it reminds me of the Changer...

This is also too close to the 7 year mark from the demonic bargain...

If the people go crazy in pain in the next month, while key people go disabled or "retired"(as in Blade Runner) by the wax.