Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 128

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

1) Or worse: forced loved ones to place themselves at risk of these health problems as well...

3) Personally, I think your timing is a little off. I'd place the start of the Magic Resistance as having happened on February 24, 2017, with the first "Spell to Bind Donald Trump and All Those Who Abet Him". This is not to say things weren't strange before then; but it was only after this that the Magic Resistance really got organized, and that things started getting really, really weird.

So, if things don't start going seriously wrong around mid to late February, then I think we're probably clear. If things do start going seriously wrong around then, then I'll become seriously worried.

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I took note of that February 24 date as well. It was when the mass "binding" spell happened, and seemed to really be the ramp-up of the TDS insanity.

I've wondered about the repercussions of that for for a while. They did a mass working to "bind" Trump, which basically focused, as I recall, on silencing him, banishing him from office, and confining him from doing harm. And then, in 2020, we got confined to our homes, banished from offices and other "non-essential" workplaces, forced to wear muzzles that impeded speech....weird, right?

Re: When/if

[brendhelm]

Possibly just coincidental, but February 24 was also the date on which Russia started invading Ukraine...

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

Not that this matters for the general point, but something strange to me is that Russia began their move into the Ukraine on February 22nd - I know because I released some music that morning because I liked the date (22,02,2022), so was surprised by how the day turned out.

Somehow though it has officially moved to the 24th - I never see the 22nd mentioned anywhere. I wondered if it was because the areas they went through first became part of Russia quickly? I believe China flew a couple fighters through Taiwanese airspace that day too, briefly.

Re: When/if

[ecosophia]

Okay, that's reasonable.

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

Although aren't we a little bit beyond reason and logic at this point?

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

Remember the 'pussy (pink) hat' march(es)' against Trump?
I found that to be 'beyond' a political statement and almost some sort of delirious sexual magic.

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

A few years before 2016, I dated someone who got involved in feminist activism while we were a couple, and well, the pussy hat march thing did not surprise me. It was in character for modern feminists: dramatic, overblown, highly sexualized, and utterly ridiculous to people who didn't share their presuppositions. I wasn't worried about how weird it was: I was worried that a "Pink Revolution" might be underway: I knew people who lived in areas affected by colour revolutions who were getting uneasy, and had been looking into the topic as part of a project I was working on and saw some similarities myself. All in all, this looked weird, concerning, but it was within the normal realm of politics.

The point where I realized something was seriously wrong did come from the pussyhat thing, though it came later that year when the pussyhat movement started getting attacked for racism and transphobia*. I saw this in late March, and up until then, the opposition to Trump had made sense, given the class and cultural backgrounds of the people involved.

*See here for an example: https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/01/10/pink-pussyhats-feminists-hats-womens-march/1013630001/

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

Sort of a complicated question I have. Are you thinking it was possibly a C_A colour revolution' of sorts? Or actually? And was somehow (accidentally?) derailed by the trans-blm 'crew' within anti-Trump feminism?

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

I think, based on what I saw, that there was an attempt to remove Trump in a colour revolution that got underway when the election was called. The intelligence community clearly despised Trump, and the feeling was mutual; and meanwhile, they had sound policy reasons to worry about what a Trump presidency would mean for their power, since he campaigned explicitly against the "Deep State". I think the case can be made that what derailed it was the fact that the left went insane during spring and summer of 2017; and the CIA was either drawn into it (and crazy people are terrible at the scheming, planning, and subtlety needed for a successful colour revolution) or chose to wrap things up, because as bad as they found Trump to be, the alternative looked worse.

This means, ironically enough, that I think there's a real possibility that TDS prevented an attempted colour revolution, and most likely, an American civil war....

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if you're right or not but your thinking considers more possibilities than I had imagined. Thank you for sharing these.

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

The pussyhat thing confused me - I had initially assumed that they were a play on pussy(cats), hats made to look like cat ears, and in pink because pink is the "female" color (in the west at this point in time anyway). It was only later that I discovered that they are - or some people think they are - supposed to look like vulva?

I just checked Wikipedia, which says that, "The creators state that the name refers to the resemblance of the top corners of the hats to cat ears while also attempting to reclaim the term "pussy", a play on Trump's widely reported 2005 remarks...."

So the hat WAS supposed to be a play on words and look like cat ears, but somehow it turned into something more sexualized and "anti-trans".

Just more weirdness around TDS, I guess. And, indirectly, coronamania, because the lunacy seemed to start with TDS and bleed forward.

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

This is something I think a lot of people have a problem remembering (which might tie into the state-dependent-memory thing we've discussed here before): there was opposition to Trump right from the start; much of it was overblown and absurd; but it was overblown and absurd in a way which was normal. Democrats and Republicans started going crazy about the other one decades earlier; but at some point, TDS got weird even by the standard of blind partisan hatred.

The pussy hat thing is a good example. It started out with a play on "Grab them by the pussy", playing with pussy being slang for both female genitalia and cats. Then people started making the leap to "those hats are supposed to be female genitalia!" as things got weird.

For what it's worth, it was actually a claim made by some who wore them. I know someone who stopped participating when people wearing the hat started taking the claim it was female genitalia seriously....

Re: When/if

[(Anonymous)]

I know somebody who knitted a 'pink pussy-cat hat' for wearing at marches and this person went on at great length to me about Bill Clinton's sexual charisma. I thought it was just 'officially approved Facebook political opinion-ing' Because as offensive as Trump's crude machismo is I can't imagine anyone finding Bill Clinton savory on any level.