Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 119
Nov. 14th, 2023 01:39 pm
We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2023-11-14 06:58 pm (UTC)I continue to grapple with this mega-strange covidian catastrophe, and to find my path forward.
Recently I have been reading about Belle Epoque Paris, and it strikes me how akin to 2020 the start of World War I was there. This too shall pass. And the world will be changed. And I plan to still be in it.
Cetiosaurus
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Date: 2023-11-14 08:18 pm (UTC)Belle Epoch Paris sounds like it is a parallel to our time indeed!
It’s curiously comforting to know that history does rhyme.
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Date: 2023-11-14 07:13 pm (UTC)I might be missing something, but it looks to me like many of these memes seem to violate this rule. I had thought that parr of the purpose of these posts was trying to build the future hopes, dreams, etc. that would make sense once the dust settles; which I would have thought would be a form of magical combat.
Did I misunderstand the point of these posts, or is there something I'm missing?
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Date: 2023-11-14 07:28 pm (UTC)Someone suggested Beethoven's Grosse Fugue. That never would have occurred to me, so I'm spending some time with it.
Does anyone else have recommendations for music you are finding helpful in dealing with the weird emotional/spiritual pressure of our collapsing covid clown world?
I mentioned Bruckner - I'll be more specific and name the Ninth Symphony, especially that uncanny final slow movement.
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Date: 2023-11-14 08:23 pm (UTC)Not so Toronto. Several friends 50+ are getting the double dose. For most of them it is C vixen #5. They are still saying the side effects are "worth it to protect others".
I kept hearing that people still thought that way. But it was jarring to actually experience it myself.
I am so glad that this space is still here. Grateful for a port in the storm.
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Date: 2023-11-14 09:48 pm (UTC)Summary: the ‘offering’ known as PeaceLoveCoof (my thanks to commenters here for suggesting the name) is perhaps far more likely to cause re-emergence of a case of Coof than… doing nothing. The numbers they cite are: 21% with, 1.8% without. Yow! Another study they cite the results of found a smaller, but still notable, difference.
One potential agenda of the study (well, studies) and the article is to suggest that the standard five-day treatment course is, wait for it, TOO SHORT. Hmmm.
A single treatment course of PeaceLoveCoof costs, retail, $1390. Just imagine if the system can be convinced that each (patient? target?) needs to get TWO courses. Double the income! And why stop at only two courses? Pig out!
An absolute howler of a sentence from the article: “The 72 people in the study who received Paxlovid were on average almost two decades older, had received more vaccinations, and were more likely to have suppressed immune systems than those who did not.” Gee guys, I know correlation does not necessarily indicate causation, but putting “suppressed immune systems” and “more vaccinations” in the same sentence seems to be sending a hint about… something; I can’t quite put my finger on it. 😊
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Date: 2023-11-15 01:28 am (UTC)My ginger-lemon chicken soup is more effective, and it costs, well, I think for 1,390 you could dose a few football teams with it, and the referees, too.
Hmmm, I can see how the typical patient who would receive such generous doses of Paxlovid would be, um, "highly vaccinated." Probably on Medicare or Medicaide, since I hear the gov't has some ginormous stockpiles of the, as you say, PeaceLoveCoof.
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Date: 2023-11-15 12:10 am (UTC)https://vigilantnews.com/post/ob-gyn-drops-alarming-miscarriage-data-before-congress-ive-never-seen-this-before
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Date: 2023-11-15 12:14 am (UTC)https://dailyclout.io/report-92-1000s-of-possible-vaccine-associated-enhanced-disease-vaed-cases-in-first-3-month-of-pfizers-mrna-covid-vaccine-rollout-yet-public-health-minimized-their-severity-by-calling-them-bre/
also, you can find all the reports there.
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Date: 2023-11-15 12:25 am (UTC)https://www.facebook.com/reel/858709149200228
He says "You can make something this damaging to humanity without doing it on purpose."
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Date: 2023-11-15 01:31 am (UTC)SHOT DEAD
https://wethepatriotsusa.org/shot-dead-movie/
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Date: 2023-11-15 10:38 pm (UTC)Quite revealing that the medical examiner’s report on Trista Martins (died 112 days after vixenation at 18 years of age) stated that she suffered from acute respiratory failure, acute pulmonary edema, small pulmonary emboli, suspected aspiration, acute renal failure, acute encephalopathy, cardiac right ventricular failure, circulatory shock, acidosis, coagulopathy, acute blood loss anemia, bowel ischemia, elevated thyroid stimulating hormone, hypoproteinemia, hypokalemia, hypernatremia, transaminitis, and hyperglycemia; and that post hospital analysis revealed cerebral edema, heavy lungs, early myocardial infarction and gastrointestinal hemorrhage – so, the official cause of death was ‘undetermined’. This helps to explain the explosion of ‘undetermined/unknown’ cause of death in many jurisdictions!
Thanks for the recommendation and sharing the link!
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Date: 2023-11-15 01:31 am (UTC)https://bc.ctvnews.ca/canadian-soldier-pleads-guilty-on-2-charges-over-vaccine-mandate-criticisms-1.6644629
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Date: 2023-11-15 01:32 am (UTC)Turning a page
Date: 2023-11-15 03:13 am (UTC)So I recently showed up at the monthly men's meeting and politely explained why I didn't belong there any longer. I said I hadn't come for so long mainly because I simply didn't know what to say. And I suspected they'd probably do better with someone who thought more in line with the group. Despite some hopes, I said, I didn't think things now would ever return to pre-2020 normal. And my energies belonged elsewhere now.
A couple of genuine covidiots were in attendance, but mostly there were well-intentioned folks who accept the state-run media as gospel and still believe deeply in "progress." I kept it polite, never mentioned any dissident literature or vax side effects, and just quietly ignored several attempts to engage by a covidiot in attendance. Said covidiot has had one stroke and told us how he is soon getting some sort of implanted cardiac device to prevent "more clots and strokes." I simply kept my mouth shut. We are on very different paths, he and I.
On balance, it went pretty well, I think. No anger, some humor and even some genuine affection. It feels like a page has turned, and I've fully admitted something that happened years ago now.
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Date: 2023-11-15 03:23 am (UTC)https://shethinksliberty.substack.com/p/she-opposed-the-mandates-and-lockdowns?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
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Date: 2023-11-15 06:38 am (UTC)I haven't had anyone die on me yet.
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Date: 2023-11-15 06:53 am (UTC)In other news, my woman has recovered from her second spawn infection, and none of the rest of my unvaccinated household seems to have caught it a second time - touch wood.
I'm not regretting refusing to get my teenage sons "vaccinated" - better to risk the spawn than a heart attack.
I don't think 'angry' is the right word for how I'm feeling. People have told me that I am a study in 'repressed anger', but I don't feel angry right now.
I just feel like destroying my enemies.
'Wrath' is probably a better word for it.
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Date: 2023-11-15 10:50 am (UTC)The AfD is a fast growing party that is characterised as "right wing" by the MSM, but really stands for policies that make obvious common sense. As such they are in opposition to the delusional nonsense purveyed by the prevailing parties.
So how does this relate to COVID?
Maximilian Krah is a deep thinker, clear speaker and nothing like a right wing demagogue, who talks about how the green energy, anti-car, anti-FF (cheap Russian gas especially) ideology and policies are clearly crashing aka "de-industrialising" the German economy.
The people in management in industry know this, but they also know that if they speak out against the lunacy they will lose their jobs. This mirrors the health professionals who know damn well that COVID jabs are harmful, but keep on prescribing them because they know the penalties if they don't stay in line.
Unfortunately this means that the crazy train isn't going to stop until it slams into the buffers at the end of the line.
Alex and Alec talk about how the same ideology is likely to crash the whole EU in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4_lKybW8ak
You can look around the world and see this phenomenon in a ton of different areas right now. "We're doing something obviously stupid and counter-productive (at least to outsiders who observe reality), but we're going to keep on doing it because that's what our ideology says we have to do". That's how the N boosters crowd just keep on boosting. It's grimly fascinating watching it all play out.
An example of where the crazy turns poignant. An Ukrainian soldier who was left behind by retreating comrades is captured by Russians. She says "Please don't hit me I'm pregnant"! https://www.bitchute.com/video/0LZPuuW40Apq/
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Date: 2023-11-15 11:05 am (UTC)Much calmer now. . .
Repression mode engaged.
AI is a divinatory machine and messing with AI
Date: 2023-11-15 11:37 am (UTC)Interesting to say the leaste he even added pieces of history from Soviet Union that I had to search, I think this is the best way to mess with AI since future and alternative timelines should be a hard nut for it too. While I don't think this could be as such I find the result fascinating and I think worth some consideration:
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Date: 2023-11-15 02:58 pm (UTC)Great conversation in Guardian with Naomi Klien about her conspiracy dopplganger Naomi Wolf and the connection between Fitness culture and the nazis. Unfortunately I think everyone on this forum would be counted as a right wing conspiracy theorists by anyone who takes this article seriously. (Don't let anyone see you doing pressups. You might be called a nazi)
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/nov/15/naomi-klein-interview-wellness-culture-far-right
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Date: 2023-11-15 05:21 pm (UTC)I love how it opens with hysteria about people posting "screeds against social distancing" and "stories about Hillary Clinton guzzling blood". Apparently in the demon-haunted (ha) minds of these people, speaking out against an unproven, socially-disruptive, utterly over-reactive government policy falls into the same category as the most lurid tales imaginable. (Reminds me of how when I attempted to explain why I didn't want experimental gene therapy with no long-term safety data for a virus that was statistically unlikely to cause me any serious harm, I was met with sarcastic comments about how I should obviously also fear the "mind-control nanobots." Obviously the same thing!)
People who believe that exercising and staying healthy helps protect them from disease are like religious kooks, apparently. (Also, religion is nonsense, I think?) "Wellness" is all about "neo-liberalism", because it's "all about the individual." Personal responsibility for one's health is anti-collective and "health" comes from government-mandated medical interventions with pharmaceutical products purchased with taxpayer dollars and forced on everyone, I guess?
There is something just really weird and kind of mentally unstable running though that article.
Interestingly, Naomi Wolfe has her own take on what is going on with her doppelganger. Klein is the daughter of a pediatrician, and the parent of an autistic child. Wolfe suspects iatrogenic injury as the cause of the child's condition - which would mean that it was people like Klein's own father who injured her child. Wolfe speculates that the thought is just too monstrous for Klein to face, so she flees desperately from any suggestion of iatrogenic injury under any circumstances.
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Date: 2023-11-15 04:21 pm (UTC)https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-fda-vaers-vaccine-adverse-event-reporting/
Healing Hands Offering
Date: 2023-11-15 05:59 pm (UTC)Brennain, Our Lady of Kittendom and the person I did a Tarot reading on the potluck are still on my list.
If you are over 50 and have a chronic condition, please let me know as their is some guidance I've seen helps the process in such situations.
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Date: 2023-11-15 08:00 pm (UTC)https://dailycaller.com/2023/11/15/wuhan-institute-virology-colorado-state-bat-ebola-nih-niaid-taxpayer-money/
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Date: 2023-11-17 01:18 am (UTC)Nobody needs to read this to know it's a bad idea, and yet we all know that it is/will be done anyway.
The 'social contract' has been broken by the eggheads and their various masters.
Will the mob take matters into its own hands to bring their evil doings to a halt?
You'd think so, but they probably won't - there is no revolutionary spirit among the masses.
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Date: 2023-11-15 09:27 pm (UTC)The deaths and disabilities are starting to pile up in my blue collar world. We lost a few to the initial shot and then a few more to "suddenly" starting about a year ago. Now I just found out one of the nicest truck drivers I regularly work with had two cancerous tumors that popped up out of nowhere and is rapidly running out of energy to do the job. The insurance company and doctors are jerking him around and I told him they are overwhelmed with cancer patients from the jab and he needs to fight them or they will just let him die because it's less expensive to drag it out until it's too late to do anything. He agreed with me but not sure he's going to follow through.
He's way more than just an excellent driver with intimate knowledge of his company's inventory and we have no idea how his boss is going to replace him. They have been able to use a smaller truck when he feels too weak to work but are pushing the limits of the other guy with a CDL. Add to that it's liberal land and people are moving away so it's really difficult to find experienced help, and a lot of the Gen Z kids have zero motivation and want to live for today because they don't see a future and I definitely understand that logic.
The world was already running short on parts and skilled labor and if my experience mirrors what's going on in the other industries then the problem is about to get a whole lot worse. On the other hand there's lots of extra tools and stuff floating around by people who died, left the industry, or liquidated their stuff to cover expenses. Some people are speculating that a lot of stuff will be really cheap after the holidays, but if you need a good or service that's not mass produced and/or difficult to find I'd recommend securing it now.
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Date: 2023-11-15 10:35 pm (UTC)Paul McCartney says COVID-19 vaccinations are “cool,” as the legendary singer urged his fans to get their shots.
The 79-year-old former Beatle shared his pro-vaccine message with his more than 4 million Twitter followers Monday.
McCartney was seen sporting a face mask as he received a shot in his arm.
BE COOL. GET VAX’D – Paul pic.twitter.com/33PtIyub5X
— Paul McCartney (
The British rock star said in a December interview that he would get vaccinated “as soon as I’m allowed.”
“The vaccine will get us out of this,” McCartney said at the time.
McCartney is the latest entertainer to promote vaccinations. Musicians and performers including Mariah Carey, Dolly Parton, Olivia Rodrigo, Eric Church, Ozzy Osbourne and Tony Bennett, among others, have encouraged people through interviews and social media posts to get vaccinated.
I am not sure how releasing the song benefits the 'pro-V' side of the argument but anything casting 'Paul' in a positive light may do just that.
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Date: 2023-11-16 01:33 pm (UTC)I don't necessarily believe most of these (the Adorno one is particularly difficult to defend), but it strikes me that there is some vortex of psychic energy around the band that would be particularly potent for any would-be manipulators to tap into (as Manson supposedly did with his followers, although that was probably overstated to promote the 'Helter Skelter' hypothesis).
With all of that said, on an archetypal, synchro-mystic level, the song itself seems to mark the final death of the world that we all grew up in - kind of like the death of Elizabeth II, just over a year ago. The lyrics evoke a sense of nostalgia - "now and then, I miss you". Here you go, here's one last piece of culture from the 20th century to remind you of the good old days, before covid, before 9/11, before the migrant crisis, and so on...
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Date: 2023-11-16 12:49 am (UTC)https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/biden-doj-quietly-hires-lawyers-vaccine-injury-lawsuits
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Date: 2023-11-18 12:54 am (UTC)And as for Karl Denniger, he ain't feeling the pity or mercy...........
https://twitter.com/tickerguy/status/1725231183535972380
Myself I fluctuate. I don't want the boomerang to hit me.
It's not from a gentle, pure heart I restrain myself.