Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 108
Aug. 29th, 2023 02:29 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Moving into Autumn
Date: 2023-08-31 04:52 pm (UTC)― Yogi Berra (world-famous vaccinologist)
We will have a better idea by the depths of winter, January, say, the time that used to be called "peak flu season" here in the northern hemisphere. I'm holding my breath to see what happens, especially in the kool-aid soaked college town where I live.
Worst case: the IGg4 induced tolerance from the vax leads to high viral loads without many symptoms until multiple organ failure, as well as high viral loads for everyone, meaning even the purebloods get quite sick because of all the virus present everywhere. This is a compelling story to me, because it makes me "right," But it is, of course, just a story. God knows I don't know enough to predict how likely it is to happen.
Very possible: continued muddling through, with high disability rates , high rates of sickness, cancers, cardiovascular disease, automimmunity-- all the things that Ed Dowd has documented and that have been studiously ignored by the mainstream. I don't see any signs yet that these rising rates are headed back to what was previously normal. But muddling through might be the best we can hope for.
If we make it through the winter without absolute immune carnage, I'll be ready to put Geert up closer to the tinfoil hat end of my bookshelf.
*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*
Re: Moving into Autumn
Date: 2023-09-01 03:24 am (UTC)If nothing Geert-like happens by the end of your winter, then you may well have escaped the inescapable :)
Which, depending on your perspective, might not be a good or bad thing.
I'm not sure myself.
On the one hand, the survival of most people and continuation of BAU has its benefits, but on the other. . .
My equivocation is perhaps not so surprising - I do find the old 'you cannot have infinite growth in a finite world' argument pretty convincing, and I do believe that there are almost certainly too many humans consuming too much stuff, etc. . .
The Ninth Mouse
Re: Moving into Autumn
Date: 2023-09-01 04:31 am (UTC)I was trying to explain why I wasn't opposed to a (highly locally controversial) religious-in-character wellbeing program in both secular and religious schools - I was basically trying to convey this idea to my co-worker that where we're at as a civilization is at least in part a function of us having lost touch with the sacred, and that denying ourselves access and teaching about this whole side of the 'right brain' has impacted on the decisions we have collectively made etc, etc.
I can't say I won any friends, or the argument.
I was dismissed with a "And religion will save us all"
I was angry by this stage, and drew a blank.
In hindsight (the French have a word for this I think), I would've said "No, religion won't save you - the only thing that will save you is a miracle!"
But, being old and slow of mind and hung-over, I wasn't fast enough :)
And it is a very strange workplace man. Daily brainwashing, but without any soma to take the edge off :)
The Ninth Mouse