Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 102

[ecosophia]

As we near the end of the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: The Epiphany (ML - A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

[dendroica]

I mostly interpreted the madness as an "archetypal misfire" rather than as a coordinated global effort to control and inject everyone. Of those who philosophized about it at length, I probably resonated most with Simon Sheridan (https://simonsheridan.me/the-plague-story-and-other-essays/) and Charles Eisenstein (https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/p/mob-morality-and-the-unvaxxed).

I never thought masks worked as well as authorities claimed, but I understood that people wanted something that they could do to "be safe". I knew that the "plague story" script ended with a savior vaccine, which I fully expected to "work" on paper only - i.e. for the data to be fudged so that the authorities could say it worked and then people could feel "safe" again - even if what really happened was that the virus worked its way through the population and then simmered down as viruses tend to do.

The main risk that I was aware of from a traditional coronavirus vaccine was Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE). However this typically showed up in animal trials pretty early, usually the first time vaccinees were exposed to a slightly mutated virus. Had we been presented with a Chinese-type attenuated-virus vaccine, my plan was to wait at least a year and watch the case reports and local news closely for anything that looked like the beginnings of ADE, then if all looked good I would get it, even if I didn't think I needed it. I'm not actually a particularly contrarian person, and I'll go along with symbolic-but-useless actions if I perceive them to be harmless and not in violation of my values.

For me, the biggest red flag was that the West was - without much thought or discussion - going all-in on purely experimental "vaccine" technologies that engineered our own cells to produce the viral antigen. One of these - oddly the less-favored - had only been used in a handful of African countries in recent years to target Ebola - and the other (mRNA) had no human track record whatsoever. This gave me some serious hesitation, for a several reasons:

1. I've done a fair amount of genetic engineering and "transfecting" cells with genetic material in my time in academia, and it was almost immediately clear to me that this carried a blanket risk of immune dysfunction/dysregulation (toward tolerance or autoimmunity/allergy) that could not possibly be ruled out by anything short of lifelong randomized trials, and for which six-month trials or first-year surveillance data are effectively useless.

2. Seeing public health authorities embrace and endorse these technologies also greatly lessened my respect for them. A wise general in wartime will not give all of his soldiers rail guns or his pilots Avrocars. Similarly a wise chief epidemiologist facing an actual pandemic will rely on time-tested approaches to developing an emergency vaccine and will only test the new technologies against familiar and relatively harmless targets like flu and chickenpox until they have proven themselves worthy and comparably safe.


That was where I was at in winter and spring of 2021, when the shots were first made available. Then came the incredible spike in VAERS reports, the silencing and gaslighting of vaccine victims, the research clearly linking spike protein to clotting and cardiovascular risks, and the "mass formation" mob morality that was clearly not interested in building a clear picture of the risks and benefits of these shots. So I went from "maybe" (in 2020) to "probably not" (in early 2021, seeing only genetic vaccines available) to "definitely not" by the summer of 2021.

Re: The Epiphany (ML - A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

[(Anonymous)]

I wanted to thank you, Mark, for your comments on these posts these past few years. It was in part thanks to your rational analysis of many of the issues, that helped me to feel confident in my choice not to vaccinate. I've shared your comments and blog posts with a number of people.

It amazed me just how many people turned off simple logical thinking when it came to the vaccine. It seemed immediately clear to me that engineering your own cells to produce spike protein would induce an immune reaction against those same cells. If your heart cells or brain cells or liver cells, etc, are the ones producing spike, well guess what your immune system is gonna do to them?