Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 102
Jul. 18th, 2023 11:46 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we near the end of the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 08:18 am (UTC)So the covid vax was a no brainer, I've been saying no to pushie vaccines for so long now it's habitual. Plus it was so obviously done in bad science I was a bit embarrassed to watch everyone "do the right thing" on a gamble.
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 09:09 am (UTC)Thanks for articulating so clearly.
Jed
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 09:59 am (UTC)I wonder if you have found it clinically useful to apply concepts related to Blood Stasis, in particular, to some of the sequela of vaccination?
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 10:18 am (UTC)Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 10:49 am (UTC)And my horror regarding friends and family was not about their decision to take the shot. There seemed at the time to be legitimate reasons to go for it, for some demographics. It was their compliance with the v passports and the totalitarian impulse that really shook me, and still does if I dwell on it too long.
Dylan
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 10:55 am (UTC)First was the masking rule in the supermarkets that was enforced for everyone except the cashiers. They were sitting behind these plexiglass screens, sure, but if this was an airborn virus, it would simply drift over and behind the barrier, right? As for the masks, if I can sniff the cigarette smoke and the perfume of the people waiting in line with me - six foot distance and all - doesn't that mean that a virus that is as small as these molecules carrying those smells can also get through my mask? Plus the mask doesn't sit airtight over my face, so the virus could get through the gaps.
Yet despite all these insufficient measures, none of the cashiers, nor I, got sick during 2020.
When the vaccine did arrive, I wasn't in one of the priority groups (although I was deemed 'essential', lol, so no hiding in my home for me. That was another thing I noticed, that I didn't get sick although I was forced to come to work). By then I had reverted to my usual attitude of wait and see how others do with the novelty before I commit to trying it, too. I've never been an early adopter of new technology, because I see it as overprized and underdeveloped, and I don't have enough money to buy stuff before the kinks have been worked out. At this point, I had also read statistics of who was primarily affected by severe illness from the virus, and had determined that I was neither old, overweight, or suffering from comorbidities, and that my risk of contracting a severe form of illness was below 1%. I was in no hurry to get vaccinated.
Then news hit that a young woman had died from a sinus vein aneurism which was an averse reaction to, I believe, the Moderna vaccine (it was neither J&J nor the Pfizer stuff). Curiosly, at that time the media didn't yet try to bury admissions of that kind. She had suffered from migraines and so had mistaken the severe headache for another migraine attack. I suffer from migraines, too, so this hit me hard - this could've been me.
But when the authorities began to make wildly differing recommendations who should get that vaccine in response to this incident - no women under 50 years of age; scratch that, no women over 50 years of age; no, only men should get it - I realized that they had no idea what they were doing. They were just trying things - ON US! We were lab rats for a gigantic experiment! And nobody in my social circle agreed with me, which shocked me most of all. It was so obvious, but they were all scared to contract the terrible illness and die from it. Everyone in my workplace got the vaccine except me. My sister, initially hesitant, was persuaded by her fiancé to take it. She also got the booster...
So I was already determined by that point not to get vaccinated. I still had that 'moment of clarity', that felt quite different from all the observation and rational conclusion processes I described above. I work as a vet tech, and one day, as I was walking one of our canine patients, a thought emerged in my mind a propos of nothing: "If I didn't hear about this pandemic in the media all the time, I'd have no idea we're even having one." My observed reality provided NO indication that the country was swept by a wave of a new and deadly illness. People were not dying left and right, services and commerce were shutting down due to governmental decree, not because staff was dying off. It was on that patch of grass behind our practice, in a very quiet moment, that I realized that something was very, very strange about the whole thing.
And then almost all countries around the globe implemented the same measures in lockstep. Reading international news, I realized even their announcements were phrased exactly the same way. That was when 'strange' turned to 'creepy'...
So, I didn't get vaccinated. I couldn't go anywhere because the Unclean were locked out of Christmas markets, cafes, restaurants, cinemas, even shops that weren't supermarkets - I got new winter shoes because ALDI had some on offer, otherwise I would've been out of luck, or forced to order online. I had to shove a test up my nose every day, because my boss was sure that the government would send someone to oversee if we were doing those tests every day (nobody ever showed up, of course - but that's how you get people to comply). At some point, we came this close to a general vaccination mandate, and I got legal insurance because I was determined to fight for my bodily autonomy tooth and nail, but that was the low point where I was terrified that I'd lose my job and wouldn't even be eligible for welfare aid: they had already decreed that if you're unvaccinated and fall ill with covid, you wouldn't get paid for the duration of your illness (which you usually are).
The really scary thing is how they just canceled every legal and constitutional right, dispersed the few, feeble protests, and then went right back to business as normal afterwards - and the wider population just went along with it, both times. I realized that I'm part of a minority that will always be steamrolled, and probably carted off to some camp or other, when totalitarianism ever rears its head again. And it WILL come, because now they learned that they can do it, and 80% of the population will go along with it, and 20% of those will zealously enforce the new regime...
The most depressing thing is that I don't even have any idea where I'd emigrate to if that happens. The whole West flipped like this. The old 'if I won the lottery' game is totally pointless now, because even if I won a million Euros, the US seems to be as bad as Germany, as France, as Ireland, as Iceland, as ... well, not as bad as Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, tbh. Those three took the cake.
So I stay and hope for the best. Sometimes I wonder if this is how people in the provinces felt as Rome was beginning to fall. Stay where they are, with barbarians coming across the Wall in regular intervals and raiding the countryside, or move back to the center of the Empire, where the barbarians are far away, but madness is even more rampant?
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 11:19 am (UTC)As an utterly lapse Catholic, I extend to you what was my favorite part of mass.
And peace be with you.
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 11:21 am (UTC)In answer to the question posted above by Dan Bashaw:
Thank you for sharing your story. It gives me heart. I'm not ready to share mine, however I will say that common sense conclusions about what I was actually observing in reality, my education in human biology, and my intuition all started blaring at me that there something deeply weird about covid policies, and that the injections were a really, really, really bad idea, so bad that I would have given up everything to avoid taking them. I understood from the beginning that the injections, "vaccines," so called, were experimental (EUA) and previously known as gene therapy, and I noticed that those two little facts got buried fast on the Internet-- everyone I knew was blithely assuming that the shots were like previous vaccines, fully FDA approved. Then came the pressure, whew, that crazy intense pressure. Man, I think some people would have vaxxed their living room furniture. That just made it even more obvious to me that the shots were something to avoid at all costs.
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 11:31 am (UTC)I expect Gert may be right, in which case my vaxxed up relatives need to get through a flu that might take them to the hospital-- without going to the hospital. Anyway, this could happen, I mean, they could get a bad flu anytime, even if Gert is wrong.
I take Gert's recommendation to keep antivirals on hand, and also, as ever, I have some supplements and, in the freezer, individual portions of my homemade chicken soup and also, always in my house, fresh lemons. In my personal experience, simple dehydration is what lands many flu victims in the hospital, and this can relatively easily be avoided by drinking lots of chicken broth. And it's best if all that stuff is already in the house, easy to grab and serve.
I don't like canned food, but I keep some canned broth and soups in the pantry, too.
I think with good care, many people will make it through a bad flu just fine. But if they don't have food in the pantry, no good medicines, and they get dehydrated, who knows.
CHICKEN SOUP FLOGGER
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 11:45 am (UTC)Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for standing up against this in the way that you did. I am not ready to share my story, however I will say, I really can imagine how hard this has been for you. And I too felt that it was very important not to use a fake certificate.
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 11:51 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-07-19 12:02 pm (UTC)Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 12:05 pm (UTC)My late brother also had a bad reaction to a yellow-fever vaccine, which may have contributed to his breakdown and eventual suicide. I was not in any sense an 'anti-vaxxer', but I was quite aware that not all vaccines are equal, and vigorously opposed to any form of vaccine-mandates, due to my brother's experience.
What's more, within certain sections of my friendship group, we had been joking about Alex Jones's infamous 'roll up da sleeves!' rant about Bill Gates for years before. I don't really know who or what was behind the vaccines, but it all seemed a bit too... Book of Revelations-y, if you know what I mean...
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 12:08 pm (UTC)You write, "we were predicting that more and stupider things would be demanded of us if we went along with this one"
So very right you were. Among the saddest things I've transcribed of late are some testimonies from hardworking front line nurses who took the first 2 shots, then, injured, they did not want more, but in order to keep their job they had to get the booster... No one where they worked helped them. After having complied with two initial jabs, they ended up losing their health, their job, their pension, their savings, and living in abject misery.
I saw it from the start all as some kind of a crazy game, Alice in Wonderland goal posts doing the shimmy & float.
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 12:11 pm (UTC)No moments of deep radical clarity for me. More like pieces of a puzzle (of a monster) coming together. At the outset I believed that the pandemic was ‘legit’ and warned relatives in January 2020 to be prepared for one helluva ride. I was glad when the country shut down in March 2020 because I figured that an attempt to ‘flatten the curve’ is worthwhile for the sake of the hospital system in my province (Ontario) which has been literally held together by duct tape and blind faith for the past decade plus. But by May 2020, I felt that something is not right and what miniscule belief I had that those in power cared even a little bit for the populace evaporated. By the time the foxes were fast-tracked to mass production, I was pretty much black-pilled. And then when The Turd changed his tune from “This is Canada: we will never mandate injections” to “Those who are not complying will suffer unimaginable indignities” (I am obviously paraphrasing, but that was the drift) in the course of what seemed to be only a few weeks 2021, that’s when I went full-on “frack you, make me” mode.
Besides being a cantankerous old coot, I am also a person with a deep spiritual life. Besides having over four decades of experience in spiritual practices, I have been performing the sphere of protection (as described by JMG in his books on Druidry) for the past five years. And I do believe that such practices helped to keep me immune from the malevolent forces (both human and non-human in origin) that were at work. And, most importantly, my conscience simply said ‘no’ to the jab. That sealed the deal for me. Even when my employment was in jeopardy in December 2021 due to my medical status, I did not for a second contemplate taking the ‘clot shot’. For most of my life I have felt that a time would come when I would find a hill worth dying on – and suddenly realized that I had found my hill (i.e., bodily autonomy).
Ron M
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 12:12 pm (UTC)"I am grateful to our host and all of you for being our only friends in 2021 even if we've never met you and don't know your names. I feel like you all are my people and I hope one day to be able to repay you all for what we learned here from you - it saved us many times over."
I actually cried when I read that. I would say exactly the same.
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 12:15 pm (UTC)One of the things that alerted me to the danger of the vaccines was your “Into the Unknow region” post in December 2020 where you warned that the vaccines had only be tested for a short time and could have unknown side effects that might not become apparent for a long time. That really rang my alarm bell and I made the decision there and then to wait before I made a decision about taking the vaccines. So I want to thank you for that.
I had become very skeptical of the whole lock down tyranny and the way that early treatments like ivermectin and vitamin D where being suppressed. I also have the weakness of being a procrastinator and will always put off what does not need to be done. There were a number of occasions when I started thinking of taking the vaccines in spring 2021, but I decided to leave the decision for another month or so, because I was so lazy. This was a great example of where a weakness becomes a profound strength. So it is possible that I might not have taken the vaccine if I hadn’t read your warning. However, your warning turned that possibility into a certainty.
I was also lucky to be living in England. I am so shocked at the pressure people came under to take the jab in Canada and America. A couple of friends did try some gentle persuasion back in May 2021, but apart from that everyone I knew at work supported my right to bodily autonomy and agreed that I had the right not to take the vaccine and they were all liberals and lefties. In the autumn of 2021 the government did require care workers to take the vaccine and this was later extended to the NHS. Fortunately, they changed their mind when it came to the NHS in the spring of the following year. Thanks to our employment laws other employer were not allowed to mandate vaccines. Things were bad enough in England, but the attitude in this country was like the climate, it did not go to the extremes that happened in Canada, Australia and parts of the US.
So thank you for your warning.
Yours sincerely
Jasmine
Re: ADE, The Next Generation
Date: 2023-07-19 12:24 pm (UTC)The Inquisition Continues!
Date: 2023-07-19 12:27 pm (UTC)May these paragons of the medical profession be ultimately vindicated!
Freedom! Liberté! Justice!
Ron M
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 12:35 pm (UTC)I'm the regular commentator who got the visits (two of them) to my house from a county official hew in New Jersey. That first visit was a rough day, among the roughest of this whole mess, because it was such a shock (the second time I was at lest emotionally prepared for it). I remember coming to this forum immediately after the incident to share what had happened, and how I was shaking and teary writing that post, dumbfounded by what was going on and feeling very alone.
But the fact that my experience helped convince someone else to resist makes me feel a bit better. We all had different challenges in standing up for our choices, and I'm glad my wretched experience with that horrible county worker - who went out of her way to act so nice and chat me up about the recent hurricane and flooding that had severely impacted out town, before finally making it clear that she was actually there to violate my right to medical privacy and try to bully me - at least produced some good.
I've taken strength from other people's stores, so I'm glad mine helped someone else.
Mauve Erudite Stoat
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 02:21 pm (UTC)I was already not in a demographic given to looking for doctor's advice. TCM training gave me a sense of confidence that the body is capable of working through most physical ailments, and the little bit of gentle help from herbs, or from the movement and regulation of qi, can be beneficial when it gets stuck.
I had also begun to pay specific attention to vaccines, the way they are argued for, and the issues their marketers are given to dodging, when I started to research the HPV vaccine a few years prior.
So, while I was probably never going to go looking for a vaccination, given all of the above, I can safely say that a vaccination never came looking for me, either. Neither my husband nor I have had a reason to seek a doctor's advice for many, many years, and we seem to be well enough out of most "loops" whether social or bureaucratic, through which other people found pressure building - whether family or work or local welfare or healthcare services. It just never arose that either of us was ever offered a vaccine, or asked whether we were vaccinated by anyone who cared that we weren't.
But of course, we were aware that there was a circus going on somewhere, we just so happened to have found ourselves already outside of the tent while it was going on.
Neither of us ever encountered any voices either for or against. We made a good team, though, and continue to feel blessed to have had our lucky escape from the general madness.
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 02:28 pm (UTC)In the dream, I was led to an open field with many others, hands bound behind my back, and made to kneel by a person in military fatigues, standing behind me and holding an odd looking weapon. Although there was no preliminary dialogue, I knew what my choices were. I closed my eyes and said “I do not consent” and waited for the ‘shot’. I woke up knowing that if it came to it in real life, I would indeed take a bullet to the head, rather than submit to whatever coercion/ incarceration/ liquidation might be coming. I watched in horror and disbelief as things unfolded over the next 12 - 24 months (Er...Nuremberg... anyone???). Almost everyone I knew just went along with the herd, enthusiastically, or otherwise.
Thankfully, I was not subject to any overt ‘personal’ discrimination. Being in Western Australia, however, I spent the first 6 months of 2022 unable to work, let alone travel. Fortunately, I had at that time enough savings to sit it out for 12 months (a very rare situation for me to be in). After 6 months, and when the faithful (to THE Science) started not showing up so regularly for work anymore, the tide of institutional madness receded, and I was able to return to the profession I had trained for, and had only just begun working in. Crisis averted for the present, but I was mentally preparing to pack the motorcycle with some light camping gear and head for the bush (lots of it out here to get lost in).
Disclaimer: I am a life-long social misfit and contrarian, who had been involved in alternative agriculture/ health (organic food supply) for many years. I’ve met many people with chronic illnesses, and spoken to and patronised many alternative health practitioners and organic farmers. I had many years prior to that already lost my trust in, and had abandoned, allopathic medicine - except in cases of acute physical trauma – after a series of interventions throughout my infancy, childhood and adolescence. I realised early on that these guys (regular doctors) are mostly just bluff and arrogance, working for big pharma.
This debacle and its concurrent insanity, just validated all of my 'fringe-dweller' preconceptions, beyond any shadow of doubt.
P.S.
A Mid-Western Doctor (on Substack) has been posting a fascinating series of articles regarding the 4th state of water (EZ-liquid crystal) and its relationship to cell biology (CDR). In regards to a possible future direction for the salvaging of the health care ‘industry’, my two-bobs worth is that this is a very promising and important area of alternative western-style medical research, worth preserving.
Tony_A
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 03:28 pm (UTC)in the winter of ’22 the outlook for the unvaccinated here in Canada was very, very, dark
It was. The black shadowy energy was pervasive and palpable, almost smothering at times, unlike anything I ever imagined I could experience.
Thanks for your post. It touches on something that I have been scribbling down, intending for JMG's regular monthly open post, so I'll save it for then.
To answer the question, I don't recall having a singular moment of clarity as you describe, but then again there was the moment where the email went out, to everyone at the hospital, "asking" "who was interested" in the vaccine, and I remember feeling a vague tugging that it wasn't the correct thing to do, to go along with it just because everyone else was.
This nagging persisted until it grew, later in the year, into a door-hammering sledgehammer that I HAD TO HOLD THE LINE, no matter what happened.
I may also say that several times, over the past year or so, I've enjoyed a deep spiritual sense that I somehow "passed" something, the same way you feel when you get an exam grade and you passed.
Re: The Epiphany (ML - A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 04:20 pm (UTC)It amazed me just how many people turned off simple logical thinking when it came to the vaccine. It seemed immediately clear to me that engineering your own cells to produce spike protein would induce an immune reaction against those same cells. If your heart cells or brain cells or liver cells, etc, are the ones producing spike, well guess what your immune system is gonna do to them?
Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)
Date: 2023-07-19 04:31 pm (UTC)At least I don't have to waste my time and energy trusting authority figures and experts anymore. Life does get better when one knows to keep their distance from morally bankrupt thugs.