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TederIt's just past midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question or comment received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. (I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ hereAlso: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says. 

The picture?  I'm working my way through photos of my lineage, focusing on the teachers whose work has influenced me and the teachers who influenced them in turn.
I'm currently tracing my Martinist lineage.  That's rendered complex by the Martinist tradition that one does not name one's initiator, so we'll have to go back via slightly less evasive routes. Last week's honoree, Jean Bricaud, received the headship of the Martinist Order from this man, Henri-Charles Detre, who wrote under the pseudonym Teder. Detre was active in a great many occult circles in early twentieth century France; he was the head of the Ordre Kabbalistique de la Rose+Croix (Cabalistic Order of the Rose+Cross), headed several esoteric Masonic rites, and was also the chief of the French branch of the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) back in its pre-Crowley days. He headed the Martinist Order for only two years, from the death of Papus in 1916 to his own death in 1918.

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Date: 2023-07-10 04:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
Huh, I didn't even know there was a pre Crowley OTO. Thanks for the fact!

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Date: 2023-07-10 04:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] francis_tucker
Anton LeVay... ditto.
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If I may...

LeVey claimed to have dropped out of school and joined the Clyde Beatty Circus where he became a calliope player. I'm not sure if its true though, because it is hard to know what are lies from someone who is a Satanist. I heard the same things about his organ and synth playing. For a nebbish he managed to get in league with the Hollywood Babylon crowd by his antics.

The YouTube podcast America's Untold Stories did an episode on him, but I haven't listened to this one. (I got into a heated exchange with one of the hosts on their locals channel, which I am a member, when I had to defend Aleister Crowley, for better or worse, after their episode on Jack Parson's - so I decided to skip this one. Mark Groubert's work on the figures surrounding the JFK assasination however is top notch, and they cover a lot of American people who really deserve to be better known -or cover people known, but show sides of them that have been untouched by others. Getting these people from America's history out into wider circulation is something I appreciate, hence my support of their show, despite some quibbles over the occult. I guess that's to be expected from time to time, howeever.) Here is the LaVey showfor those who are interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nXRb6FfTnY

And here is the Jack Parson's show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hm_oyKw4k&t=3s

My quibble was they called Parson's and Crowley Satanist's -not accurate in my view. The episode titled Satan and Rockets would have been better titled as Love and Rockets (as the band of the same name gave a nod to Parsons) and been more accurate. That said, they did a pretty good job on him, despite the satan smears. The highlight for me was when Mark Groubert laid out a theory that the explosion that killed Parson's may not have been an accident on his own part (after all, Parson's had been a rocket scientist and familiar with the dangerous materials he had to work for some time), but an assassination in its own right (this part starting around the 50 minute mark). His lover, muse and magical partner Marjorie Cameron never believed that it had been an accident, nor did his scientist friends. Both knew how careful he had been.

One of the thoughts that comes out of this, is America could have had a rocket & space program developed soley through our own scientists, instead of those that came over from Operation Paperclip -and the moral rot that started to spread through the government when they brought people like Von Braun over.

So there is my plug for America's Untold Stories -others here may enjoy some of the episodes, and I think focusing on these interesting characters from our collective past is a good way to build up & strengthen a collective American identity, that paradoxically is in part built around individuality.

https://www.youtube.com/@AmericasUntoldStories/streams

Hail Johnny Appleseed!

Justin Patrick Moore
From: [personal profile] deketemoisont
All the USian moral rot I know about can be found in Albion's Seed.

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Date: 2023-07-11 02:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] francis_tucker
He wasn't bad...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL01AA5288ACFE0899

I shed tears for him, I really do. Mixing the occult with the circus/carnival... what fun!! Think what he could have done if he'd only looked for the tertiary instead of picking the other bad idea... and if he'd actually put in AC's quarter of an hour's daily work into actually practicing the occult...
Edited Date: 2023-07-11 02:52 am (UTC)

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Date: 2023-07-11 02:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] francis_tucker
By the by, those drums aren't programed. They're the lowest two octaves on his keyboard, and he's playing them live.

Theodor Reuss

Date: 2023-07-10 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] deborah_bender
Perhaps you will be citing Theodor Reuss in your Martinist upline? Wikipedia has a detailed and interesting article about him. I give it a prize for Most Unexpected Citation in a References List:

Krecsák, L. & Bohle, D. (2008) "The eccentric adder man: note on the life and works of Albert Franz Theodor Reuss (1879–1958)". The Herpetological Bulletin, 103: 1–10.
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