Tarot of the Jumped Shark
May. 24th, 2018 12:35 am
My wife Sara was looking up Tarot decks online earlier this evening, with an eye toward helping a correspondent choose a suitable deck, and suddenly started laughing in that curious way that signals a certain amount of, well, existential dread. Or something. She had just encountered, for the first time, the Kilted Rubber Chicken Tarot. Yes, you read that correctly, and it's exactly what it sounds like: a tarot deck in which each card includes a rubber chicken wearing a Scottish kilt.
I consider this an omen, and not especially a favorable one, but to explain it a few words about the history of the tarot in America might be in order.
Back in the dawn of time, when dinosaurs stalked the earth -- we're talking the mid-1970s here -- you had your choice, if you were lucky, among four different tarot decks in the United States. You could get a badly colored knockoff of the Waite-Smith (aka Rider-Waite) deck; you could get the IJJ Swiss tarot; you could get the Marseilles tarot; and you could get a thing called the Tarot of the Witches, which was cooked up for a James Bond flick and got into circulation thereafter. That was it. It wasn't because there was some kind of embargo on tarot cards; it was because the demand was so low that this was all there was a market for.
I recall with some fondness when a good clear reproduction of the Waite-Smith deck got into print -- I snapped one up -- and even more fondly the appearance of David Palladini's Aquarian tarot, which I used for many years. Then the floodgates opened, and tarot decks began piling up at an astonishing pace. There are now tens of thousands of decks in circulation, and one of them has rubber chickens in Scottish kilts.
I have nothing against rubber chickens in kilts, but I suspect the great tarot boom that kicked off in my teen years may finally have jumped the shark. If you have favorite tarot decks that are on the exotic side -- say, anything other than the Waite-Smith or a few dozen others of the more popular decks -- you might want to pick up a second copy and stash it somewhere, as the decade or so to come may see a lot of decks drop permanently out of print.
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Date: 2018-05-24 09:21 am (UTC)You could do some great satire with themed tarot decks - imagine the Techno-Utopia Tarot. :)
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Date: 2018-05-24 04:36 pm (UTC)I know basically nothing about Loteria, other than that it exists; many thanks for the information!
The other deck that I've been working with a lot recently, in a different context, is the Gypsy Witch Oracle deck -- an American cartomancy deck that takes the Lenormand deck and expands it to 52 cards. I had a character show up in the third Weird of Hali novel who reads cards, and rather to my surprise, these were the cards she turned out to read. I'd like to work with an artist sometime to do a new version of the deck.
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Date: 2018-05-24 10:52 am (UTC)BTW, I wrote you a lengthy update on the project, but the Mail For Windows 10 app somehow devoured the draft before I could finish it and send it to you, so my apologies for the endless delays. I have been at work teasing out imbalances in the L.B.R.P., and it has been a lot of nitpicking, since I have had to restructure the Tree of Life accordingly as I go along.
I noticed someone asked about it on Magic Monday. No, we are not on hold. Not at all. I will check in once I actually have a day off at home in front of my computer (a rather rare commodity these days...)
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Date: 2018-05-24 04:39 pm (UTC)I'm delighted to hear that the Gullna Dagrenning project is still on its feet! And I know how email programs are -- I always write long emails on a word processing program and then paste them into email, to avoid that. I'll look forward to your email when time permits.
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Date: 2018-05-24 12:00 pm (UTC)I hope you don't mind if I take this post as an opportunity to ask you a question I had reserved for Magic Monday, but was late to ask this week. It is about the tarot, so it's not too off-topic. What are the implications of doing readings together with someone else?
Often my wife likes to interrogate the cards just before going to sleep, so it happens that once she has spread all the cards on the bed, she starts interpreting, and inevitably ends asking my opinion. So, more often than not the divination is the result of our joint interpretative efforts and not just hers.
What is the occult explanation for the source of the wisdom emerging from the reading? Is it the shared collective unconscious, as opposed to the unconscious of an individual reader? And, is this a more, or less, effective form of divination?
We find the exercise very useful, but I wonder if we shouldn't keep our divinatory activities separated, especially while we are still learning.
Many thanks in advance for your answer.
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Date: 2018-05-24 02:13 pm (UTC)Personally, I favor the Waite-Smith deck and find Pamela Coleman Smith's art to be both exceptionally beautiful and rich to contemplate. That being said, I had been working with the poor print-job of the 1970's deck for the better part of three years before I learned that there is a carefully done centennial version offered by US games. Of course I snatched up a few copies to have in case they become scarce. Some of the reprints of this classic deck are astonishingly poorly executed.
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Date: 2018-05-24 04:45 pm (UTC)The Waite-Smith deck has become the standard tarot deck these days for good reason. Now that the images are out of copyright, there are some possibilities I'll want to explore with the Waite-Smith trumps, in particular, as tools for occult meditation.
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Date: 2018-05-24 11:45 pm (UTC)Excellent advice. During the past 25 years or so, a lot of decks that were commonly available in the 1980s and early 1990s have either vanished from print or become specialty items that you have to order directly from the artist or on Amazon. I really miss several decks that I foolishly let go of and have never been able to replace.
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Date: 2018-05-25 12:20 am (UTC)other decks
Date: 2018-05-25 01:11 am (UTC)The next deck I bought in a store. Rider-Waite, the edition with a pink back with an ankh on it. What do you think of that printing? That was and is my main deck. I still have it, although I lost the Six of Wands decades ago and had to replace it from a later edition with a different color scheme; that card has a white back with a stylized gold sun symbol.
I had a Thoth deck for awhile. The artwork was interesting but I didn't take to it for divination, not being wholly onboard with Crowley's world view.
Incidentally, your assertion that in the mid 1970s only four Tarot decks were available is a slight exaggeration. I'm looking at The New Tarot Deck, second edition 1974. Copyright William J. Hurley and J. A. Horler. This is a small black and white deck, with art I like in a woodcut style. For some reason, Swords are Earth in this deck and Circles (Coins, Pentacles) are Air. The symbolism is Neopagan and Wiccan, and a number of the trumps and court cards depict black people, who look entirely at home. This is a good deck. I don't know whether it is still available.
I meditate on Morgan's Tarot sometimes. The box my deck came in says Boulder Creek, CA 95006 on the side, from which I infer that the deck originated in the Santa Cruz mountains. This deck is oracular. It has a specific and quirky flavor, with an outlook of Eastern mysticism and Theosophy filtered through a hippie sensibility, which sounds awful but the deck is deliberately very funny. All the cards may be viewed on a website with sleepbot in the URL (Google Morgan's Tarot), with a paragraph on each card's meaning and a widget to randomly draw up to seven cards. Some cards from this deck come into my mind from time to time, for example, Du Wacky Du, Your Mission Is Not Yet Complete, and From Here On In, It's Nothing But a Downhill Run.
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Date: 2018-05-25 04:23 am (UTC)I've also got a well-used copy of Morgan's "Tarot" -- of course it's not a tarot deck at all, it's an 88-card oracle deck. It's seriously weird but I get reliably good readings with it. "Pigs and Fishes Surround You..."
I don't think I've ever seen the Waite-Smith deck with an ankh on the back. Until fairly recently the standard version, the one I got back in the day and used to tatters, had a diagonal blue plaid pattern on the back.
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Date: 2018-05-25 06:31 pm (UTC)I think it's partly analogous, but the plushy Cthulhu has another dimension. One of the subversive themes of modern culture is the habit of looking at the things that ought to horrify us, according to the dictates of our culture, and deciding that they needn't horrify us at all. To transform Cthulhu into a plushy doll or an amegurumi crochet figure or what have you is to affirm the possibility that when you stare into the abyss long enough, the abyss will turn out to be cute.
(Come to think of it, my novel The Shoggoth Concerto has this as one of its themes...)
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Date: 2018-05-25 11:59 am (UTC)Rubber chickens in kilts? Whatever will they think about next? Probably far fewer tarot decks, that's probably what. Is this necessarily a bad thing?
Magic Monday passes quickly and well, I am usually rather busy that evening... Just wanted to say thanks for the reply to my question and as usual you have given me much to think about.
Chris
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Date: 2018-05-25 06:32 pm (UTC)gag gifts
Date: 2018-05-25 01:04 pm (UTC)Point being, in our more politically correct era, perhaps it is more acceptable to give someone a cat themed tarot deck than a whoopie cushion or a box of firecrackers. They're the right size to be a stocking stuffer and seem like they might get a smile on Christmas morning from that morose teenager who dresses in black and burns incense all the time. This might explain why there are so many tarot decks that are so completely and utterly silly, and seem purposively designed to be whimsical impulse buys.
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Date: 2018-05-25 06:33 pm (UTC)Origin of the Kilted Rubber Chicken Tarot by Beth Seilonen
Date: 2018-05-25 01:19 pm (UTC)She has several commercially published decks, including Tarot of Leaves, Dream Raven Tarot, Bleu Cat Tarot, and the newest, Guardian Tarot, which uses people/tree hybrids as the main characters and, as I understand it, is about nature being the guardian of us and our need to be the guardian of nature. Her artwork is simple and evocative, using sparse symbolism referencing the RWS lineage.
The Kilted Rubber Chicken Tarot was designed as a special deck for a fundraiser for the Bay Area Tarot Symposium (BATS), and so was only a specialty deck offered for a limited time. The woman who runs BATS has a Facebook group that is purely a quirky fantasy thing with a whole cast of unusual characters none of whom I can think of now, besides KRC. The Kilted Rubber Chicken was one of the characters introduced in this group. I don't follow the group much, but they are very funny and irreverent. It's enjoyable to see what silliness they are up to at any given moment. They have Sippy Saturdays and Aspic Mondays (I think that's the day) where everyone shares disgusting old photos they find online of aspic recipes.
And that's the story behind the Kilted Rubber Chicken Tarot!
--Joy Vernon
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Date: 2018-05-25 02:29 pm (UTC)I've only used The Brotherhood of Light tarot deck; bought in the late 60's, black and white, Egyptian based (I see they have colored cards now. Used them for divination for a few years but put them aside after some uncomfortable vibes that seemed to be increasing (we were living on the edge of reservation land on an old apple orchard outside of Wapato in Eastern WA in an old fruit picker cabin) especially after the truck sprayer came through and left dead birds behind for weeks afterwards.
I was wondering if you had ever come across this system by C. C. Zain (Elbert Benjamine)?
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Date: 2018-05-25 06:40 pm (UTC)Studies of Tarot
Date: 2018-05-25 07:02 pm (UTC)The author examines the multiple forms that the tarot has taken in the last few decades through a lens of postmodern theory. The first two chapters of the book will, therefore, be of interest largely to other theorists. For those who study or collect tarot decks, the final chapter provides a potentially useful classifications of current decks, with many examples illustrated within the text and in the appendix. The book is indexed and contains a bibliography, notes and complete publication information on the decks cited.
She has also published a book about Tarot in films and a 2 volume work on Tarot in popular culture. One of the distinctions she makes in this book is between decks that retain the usual meaning and symbols but use different art--Flower tarot, cat tarot, kilted chicken, etc. and those that set up a whole different set of symbols and meanings, such as the Merlin Tarot. Then there are card sets that don't follow the traditional division of arcana or suits at all. Things like the Angel Oracle Cards, Ancient Animal Wisdom, etc. that just use the card format.
Anyone out there use Morgan's Tarot? I still have mine and sometimes use it. It gives interesting readings despite not being really tarot and somewhat a relic of the 60s.
I also have the Motherpeace deck, which I think is still on the market. I reduced my collection of decks, which was never large, some years ago. The decks that use a very original set of meanings just add one more thing to learn and the art in some of the ones that are otherwise interesting (Book of T) just not pleasant to work with.
I like to use the very small decks (cards less than 1") for spell work. Combine with candles, etc. Pick cards to represent people, desired outcome, etc. as a focus for intent.
Rita R.
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Date: 2018-05-25 11:50 pm (UTC)A coupleof weeks ago. Have been getting used to them slowly. My question is what is the best way to learn
The art of divination using the tarot cards? And why would there be a difference influence or clarity using a different type of deck? Thank you
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Date: 2018-05-26 02:16 am (UTC)Ogham too?
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--Heather in CA
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