Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 97

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Updates to Where There Is No Doctor book discussed on Darkhorse podcast

[ofmonstrouswords]

I'm in the middle of watching Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying's 177th Darkhorse Podcast.

They talk about the book Where There Is No Doctor and the updates between 1992 and 2022 editions. The 2022 edition contains a section on Covid and vaccines, and it goes about as you'd expect. There are also broader updates to recommended vaccines for children, which are...pretty staggering.

Stuff about the book starts at 15 minute mark and goes to about 1 hour 30: https://rumble.com/v2t8xe0-bret-and-heather-177th-darkhorse-podcast-livestream.html

As usual Bret and Heather have good, informative discussion. Worth watching if you have a spare hour & 15.

(I haven't watched the rest of this episode yet; the first hour and a half is what's relevant to these open posts, so that's what I'm talking about.)

Re: Updates to Where There Is No Doctor book discussed on Darkhorse podcast

[(Anonymous)]

I have the 1992 version speicically to avoid the updates, but even the 1992 version relies in the main on antibiotics. I updated a "food safe" career skills course in 2010 and the instructor was a post-doc from the local hospital. He said that year there had been 7 people die - in that hospital - from what should have been antibiotic treatable infections. He said there were only really a handful of antibiotics that still work, from the dozens that used to, and that at this rate there'd be none that really work sooner rather than later. I think he estimated between 10 - 20 years, and here we are.

I've since been keeping ears and eyes open to alternatives, if anyone would like to share reasources of our antibiotic resistant future?

This one is cool, though I'd like to see it made with copper rather than silver: (ceramic low-tech water filter) https://wiki.lowtechlab.org/wiki/Filtre_%C3%A0_eau_c%C3%A9ramique/en

Re: Updates to Where There Is No Doctor book discussed on Darkhorse podcast

[(Anonymous)]

The late Stephen Harrod Buhner published two books: Herbal Antivirals and Herbal Antibiotics. If you're not allergic to a few technical terms, he's well worth reading. I'm working through the Herbal Antibiotics now. He had more than a few choice remarks about the current state of the American Medical system and at the time he wrote it (2021) felt that antibiotics were essentially useless.

If you can lay your hands on vintage home health care books, snap them up as fast as you can. I have an old textbook which belonged to my late mother (a nurse) titled Textbook of Attendant Nursing by Katherine Shepard and Charles Lawrence. It was published in 1935 and has no mention of antibiotics. While some of it is a bit dated, much of the information is still perfectly good. I tried finding a scanned version of this book online but haven't had any luck yet.

JLfromNH/Azure Melancholic Goose

Re: Updates to Where There Is No Doctor book discussed on Darkhorse podcast

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you!

Re: Updates to Where There Is No Doctor book discussed on Darkhorse podcast

[team10tim]

I've often wondered how long it will take antibiotics to become effective again after we stop using them.

Presumably the organisms will drop their antibiotic resistant genes once the selection pressure has been removed. Either quickly because it is more costly or slowly through random mutations. Egyptian mummies are riddled with tetracycline and we now know that they brewed tetracycline in their beer, so everyone drank it all of the time. But tetracycline worked just fine when we rediscovered it.

Re: Updates to Where There Is No Doctor book discussed on Darkhorse podcast

[(Anonymous)]

I remember a study done on E Coli within some cattle's guts where they stopped feeding antibiotics to cows. After a short period of time, the E Coli in the guts of cattle were no longer antibiotic-resistant. It was posited that antibiotic resistance has a cost associated with it that, in an environment without said antibiotics, leads to them either losing their resistance (whether by shucking off the plasmid responsible or by mutation) or dying out to non-resistant strains.

I've also seen this with people infected with MRSA – after a while the MRSA disappears, replaced by less dangerous strains of the bacteria.

So I'd say it appears that antibiotic resistance can disappear quickly in their absence.

– Don Hargraves