Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 75
Jan. 10th, 2023 01:34 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Rabbi Chenanya Weissman
Date: 2023-01-10 09:19 pm (UTC)Urgent Health Warning
January 9, 2023
by Rabbi Chenanya Weissman
From: https://chananyaweissman.com/article.php?id=499
After a discussion with experts from Israel's Health Ministry, leading rabbis have issued a call for Jews to stop striking their chest as a sign of penitence during the thrice-daily Shemoneh Esrei prayer, the selichos, and on Yom Kippur. The longstanding custom, widely known by the Yiddish term klopping al chet, may lead to cardiac arrest.
According to data from a study, striking the chest in this fashion can lead to a condition known as commotio cordis, in which the impact of an object striking the chest area over the heart at just the right millisecond can cause sudden death. Although such cases are rare, they have been known to happen, and the increase in sudden deaths among people without a history of heart problems has caused experts to examine this as a possible cause.
The Rabbinic organization known as All The Gedolim put out a statement: “The Torah commands us to listen to whatever doctors say, all the time, without exception. The Health Ministry is in charge of doctors, and therefore we must listen to anything the Health Ministry says. It has been brought to our attention that striking the chest is a safek pikuach nefesh, and therefore it is forbidden. No distinction can be made between how forcefully one strikes his chest, for who can measure such things?
“Anyone who strikes his chest is a sinner who is endangering his life and his prayers are rejected. Furthermore, since his actions may lead others to strike their chests as well, he can be considered a rodef.”
Chief Rabbi of Tzfat, Shmuel Eliyahu, wrote in a Facebook post that the Shulchan Aruch and Megilla 3B support this ruling.
Rabbi Yuval Cherlow, director of the Center for Jewish Ethics at Tzohar, posited that people who strike their chests should be denied medical care if they have a heart attack. “Their reckless actions may cause medical care to be diverted from patients who are more deserving,” he stated. “Although Israel's medical system treats injured terrorists without bias, sometimes at the expense of their victims, kloppers are on a lower level, like anti-vaxxers.”
Rabbi Herschel Schachter, Rosh Yeshiva at Yeshiva University and posek for the Orthodox Union, ruled that children who klop al chet can be thrown out of yeshiva, lest they cause a bad influence on other children and endanger their lives.
Leading Modern Orthodox and Reform Rabbis quickly embraced the scientific findings and issued a similar ruling, though they added that their followers stopped klopping al chet long ago, as they preach separating the sin from the sinner, and even embracing sin with love.
The Prime Minister said there are no plans to send police into synagogues and yeshivos to enforce the new health guidelines, though he warned that “all options are on the table” if cases of sudden death continue to rise.
After all, he concluded, if stopping the klopping saves one life, it's worth it.
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Note: Since it never seems to be obvious enough, the above was satire. The following is not.
Here is an actual screenshot [goes to a FB link] from Hatzolah of Melbourne in May of 2022.
"Get vaccinated for your chance to win a CellAED defibrillator".
Hatzolah should be banished from the Jewish community and replaced with an organization that has no ties with the World Economic Forum and other enemies of Hashem and humanity.
Re: Rabbi Chenanya Weissman
Date: 2023-01-11 01:37 pm (UTC)Stopping the klopping is fantastic, and for me as a non-Jew, all the exotic Yiddish and Hebrew words are a special flavoring that makes the whole thing more believable.
In a way, most news articles I‘ve been reading recently looked a bit like this, as if they were full of words and concepts alien to me, but apparently very important to the authors and their audience. Cool thing!
Re: Rabbi Chenanya Weissman
Date: 2023-01-11 04:40 pm (UTC)--Ms. "Klop, Drop and Roll" Krieger