Magic Monday
Dec. 25th, 2022 11:24 pm
It's getting on for midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note: Any question received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here. Also: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says. The picture? I'm working my way through photos of my lineage, focusing on the teachers whose work has influenced me. George Winslow Plummer, last week's honoree, was the effective founder of the Societas Rosicruciana in America, but he received his Rosicrucian initiation from Sylvester Gould, who would have headed the SRIA had he lived long enough. Born in 1840, Gould was an enthusiastic Freemason and a student of various occult traditions. When the Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor refounded itself in the USA as the Hermetic Brotherhood of Light, he became its secretary and treasurer, one of the three officers of the Exterior Circle who helped Thomas Burgoyne aka Norman Astley and the talented Genevieve Stebbins (later Mrs. Astley) keep the order going. We'll talk about them in upcoming weeks -- and also about another fascinating figure who was the source of Gould's Rosicrucian lineage.
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Complete Old English Poems and World Tree Reading Request
Date: 2022-12-26 05:05 am (UTC)To those who celebrate it, a very Merry Christmas and/or Boxing Day. For everyone, I hope you're keeping warm and putting a satisfying cap on the year.
To Share: I got as a Christmas gift The Complete Old English Poems, translated by Craig Williamson with an introduction by Tom Shippey. It's exactly what the title says: the entire corpus of Old English poems translated into modern English (including, of course, Beowulf). From the bit of reading I've done so far, it looks like the translations are rendered at least mostly in the alliterative style of Old English poetry. Most of the poems are Christian, given who was literate in the Anglo-Saxon period, but there's also a lot of material for those interested in Anglo-Saxon flavored Heathenry. It also is an attractive weighty tome that will take up a satisfying amount of shelf space.
To Ask: For JMG and/or the commentariat: any recommendations for sources that discuss the idea of a "World Tree" a la the Yggdrasil of Norse myth? I have lots of material on the Germanic side of things, but I wonder if there's any interesting comparative reading to do, and I'd be thankful for any avenues to explore.
As always, thanks very much to JMG and everyone here for your time, care, and wisdom.
To any who will have them, I put forth my blessings and best wishes,
Jeff
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Date: 2022-12-26 05:13 am (UTC)I have cold showers, banishing rituals, and prayer, along side using more natural cleaning supplies (which are often based on vinegar) instead of the synthetic and unhealthy stuff, but would welcome any other advice you have.
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Date: 2022-12-26 05:23 am (UTC)But how can I use magic to help it? The advice I found so far falls into two categories:
1. Summon spirits and/or demons to bring you wealth, no strings attached, pinky promise.
2. New thought and creative visualization. Just imagine yourself rich, already possessing all you want.
How would you advice to go about it, JMG? It is a question that many would like to know an answer to, I'm sure.
P.S. Belatedly I wish you a Happy Winter Solstice, Alban Arthuan. I hope you enjoyed it.
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Date: 2022-12-26 05:57 am (UTC)Financial planning, all by itself, won't do you much good, either. It's a good idea, but it's hopelessly insufficient. You need more money, not just less waste of the money you have.
No, an effective magical method to become wealthy focuses on finding opportunities to earn money. That's the difference between people who start out poor and get rich, and people who start out poor and stay there: the people who get rich are always looking for opportunities to earn more money. You can use affirmations to get your mind primed to spot opportunities -- "I see opportunities to earn money all around me" repeated fifty or a hundred times daily, like a mantra, will get your subconscious going. Then make a conscious effort to follow through, and when you spot an opportunity that you can reasonably pursue, do it. (That's the place where most people fall flat -- they learn to spot opportunities and then just daydream them away.)
It's easy to become as wealthy as you want to be. All you have to do is focus your entire will on that one goal, and take concrete actions every single day to bring it about. If anything gets in the way of that goal, set it aside for now. If you make a buck, think, "How can I use this dollar to make more money?" -- and then do it. Do this day in and day out, and you'll be wealthy far sooner than you can imagine.
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Date: 2022-12-26 05:43 am (UTC)And we can always come here. I find JMG’s sites relaxing, inspiring, and educational. Not bad for free.
—Princess Cutekitten
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Date: 2022-12-26 06:00 am (UTC)Since affirmations seem to be turning into a theme for this week's Magic Monday, I'm going to invite everyone who feels inspired to do this to come up with an affirmation focusing on having an unexpectedly successful and happy year in 2023. Don't share it -- it's stronger if kept secret. Simply come up with one and start repeating it from now until the new year dawns...and see what happens.
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Date: 2022-12-26 05:49 am (UTC)No questions today but thought of sharing these two graffities I spotted on Mexico's street. Cthulhu with Quetzalcoatl's feathers I found funny.
Wishing everyone happy holidays and solstice celebrations!
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Date: 2022-12-26 07:46 am (UTC)Thanks as always for this space to ask questions.
1. Are there any concerns with doing The Dolmen Arch and Bardon's Initiation into Hermetics at the same time? Ordered the IIH but won't be getting it for a while. I am about to finish the DA in a few months and plan to immediately repeat the course. My thought was to do the DA in the morning and the IIH later in the day.
2. Plant and herbal alchemy have recently caught my interest as far as spiritual growth and development purposes. Would you expect an alchemist to be of value post-modern medicine? Would the role be similar to one practicing herbal medicine?
Not a question:
Discursive meditation is very satisfying! Even chasing down the rabbit trails of distractions has been valuable for me.
Thanks again!
Eric
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Date: 2022-12-26 08:12 pm (UTC)2) Spagyric medicine -- that's the technical name for the medical use of plant alchemy -- is about halfway between herbalism and homeopathy. I would expect it to be immensely valuable once modern industrial medicine clutches its chest and falls over.
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Date: 2022-12-26 09:40 am (UTC)What should I do? The work environment is nasty, but the relatively high pay for my country allows me to import your books...
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Date: 2022-12-26 08:13 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-12-26 09:53 am (UTC)- seemingly attached to a particular person, and active at their home and other places they stay
- also aggressively targeting their close loved ones with poltergeist behaviour, menacing vibes and touching
- absolutely unfazed that the person has had a daily Celtic Golden Dawn practice for years
- not deterred by natural magic e.g. amulets, vinegar in a bowl, blessing the home with frankincense and prayer through every room
It seemed to be particularly fired up about a recent romance but the activity continued after that ended.
Time to call in the pros?
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Date: 2022-12-26 10:20 am (UTC)1) You wrote earlier to another commenter about the example of focusing the will on earning money, and finding opportunities to do so. If my overarching goal was, instead of earning money, to individuate, then how would I apply a unified will in my daily life to do so?
2) I wonder if individuation is a lifelong goal, and would be better broken up into a sequence of smaller goals? Although individuation seems to imply that at some point everyone's way of doing so will be unique to them.
3) There is a latin term I've seen here before, something like ipsiminus or something, that means something like 'most completely oneself'. I also forget where it comes from, if it is the result of a certain magical or spiritual tradition. Is that the same thing as individuation?
4) Leading from that, is the goal of the mage and the person who wants to individuate the same thing? I always thought that magic is a tool, which can be applied toward this goal, but it isn't limited to that. I ask, because what Levi seems to describe in Doctrine and Ritual is becoming independent of harmful currents in the astral light, which seems to imply some sort of individuation.
Many thanks!
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Date: 2022-12-26 08:22 pm (UTC)3) Ipsissimus, "most completely oneself," is the highest grade of initiation in the Golden Dawn system; like the other two supernal grades, it can't be conferred by other people, it can only be achieved by individual efforts. It's individuation with jet fuel in the engine, since its goal isn't simply the individuation of the personality but the individuation of the higher self, the self that continues from life to life and takes on personalities.
4) Individuation of the personality is one of the goals of the mage, and becoming independent of currents in the astral light is one step toward individuation of the personality.
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Date: 2022-12-26 10:23 am (UTC)Have you ever read the rather innovative essay on sacred geometry and the tree of life called “The anatomy of the body of god” by Frater Achad? If so what are your thoughts?
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Date: 2022-12-26 08:23 pm (UTC)The winter storm
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Date: 2022-12-26 12:11 pm (UTC)If it is true that during the phase between death and birth you integrate past experiences and evolve, and that when you meditate you enter a state where you deal with things that are subjective and feelings arising from internal conditions, could one say then that meditation is an approach to mimic the phase between death and birth to hasten evolution?
Another question linked to meditative, evolutionary states: I know from first-hand experience that you can enter such states "accidentally" and I have a few experiences where I managed to enter such a state more or less voluntarily. But I also know from first-hand experience that there are humans who are capable of putting others in such states if they are willing. In my case, I experienced this in the presence of a healer, who during the sessions managed to do this for a group of clients all at once. There was an openly ritualistic component to this, of course, but I am pretty sure that if I was silly enough to try the same with a group of people, not much would happen. The healer had a strong background in magic, so much I understood by now. And I have to add that I am not trying to ask "how do I do this?" but more "how do I get there?" or "what's behind it?". I understand there comes a great responsibility with such capabilities, so they are probably not developed and even less applied lightly.
Greetings,
Nachtgurke
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Date: 2022-12-26 08:43 pm (UTC)2) I'm not sure what question you're asking here. Yes, this happens; the mechanism is much the same as the one behind the "contact high" you get from being close to someone who's tripping on LSD.
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Date: 2022-12-26 12:40 pm (UTC)Continued prayers for her recovery are welcome. She has some touching stories about interacting with angels, so it's clear that your prayers have been to good effect—thank you all again!
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Date: 2022-12-26 01:53 pm (UTC)I'm less concerned about the specific type of martial art than finding a well-run place with instructors who are also doing the inner work of martial arts training and meditation, and bring that to the atmosphere of the place and the style of their instruction, rather than just treating it as an exercise/self-defense program. (Also happy to hear anonymously of anywhere to avoid!)
Many thanks.
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Date: 2022-12-26 05:14 pm (UTC)Cheers,
Jeff
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Date: 2022-12-26 02:28 pm (UTC)I hope this doesn't indicate a war? Might be slightly worse for Prague and Berlin, will calculate those too.
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Date: 2022-12-26 02:52 pm (UTC)I don't have the chops to tackle any ritual exorcism and couldn't get consent regardless. Will praying for the family as a whole do the poor possessed bastard any good? Or at least help contagion? I figure as a member of the family I am good to pray as hard as for us I can. Does that track? Will it help?
Is there any risk of contagion and will collective prayer help? Finally, I feel drawn to send prayer to St Michael the Archangel. I'm not Christian nor are any of the immediate family. Do you, JMG, or anyone else have any advice for calling on an archangel outside of a Christian setting?
Sorry for the long shpeil and many questions. I'm a rattled and have been waiting for this Monday.
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Date: 2022-12-26 03:34 pm (UTC)Is this compatible at all with my Druidic (SOP) practice?
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Date: 2022-12-26 08:49 pm (UTC)Don't worry about the goats, btw. They're there for purely symbolic reasons, as Lévi explains further on.
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Date: 2022-12-26 03:36 pm (UTC)1. How do things like red bag amulets and witch bottles discriminate between bad things to stop, and good things to let through?
2. If there are multiple kinds of magic protection and something nasty turns up, do the defences trip in a sequence or activate all at once? Do some only respond to certain types of threat and stand down for others? If the threat is particularly bad, are less powerful defences useless or do they still contribute a bit to stopping it?
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Date: 2022-12-26 08:54 pm (UTC)2) The various methods of defense tend to affect different aspects of a magical attack. Etheric devices like the red bag amulet break up etheric patterns; other magical defenses work on different planes, or in different ways. I haven't noticed them being set off in sequence, but then my defenses are always active and usually dealing with something. There's a lot of noxious magic, and a good many noxious people, in the occult scene these days!
Qs
Date: 2022-12-26 03:46 pm (UTC)Dear JMG,
1) Asking if I should learn and practice the sphere of protection regularly would be a 9th house question correct? Not an 8th house question?
2) Do you use void moon rules in horary, and if yes, which specific rule do you use?
3) Should I read "on the fourfold root of the principle of sufficient reason" before World as will and representation as Schopenhauer himself suggests or is WWR easy enough to get started with? Not sure how much Kantian philosophy I need to understand to have a good time.
This is for everyone, but random trivia: my divination very clearly said saturn and not uranus is the ruler of Aquarius.
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Date: 2022-12-26 08:55 pm (UTC)2) Yes, and I use the classic indication -- the last major aspect inaugurates the void.
3) I'd start with WWR, and go on to the Fourfold Root next, before rereading WWR.
Cell Salts
Date: 2022-12-26 04:00 pm (UTC)Question about the updated Hyland's cell salts - It looks as if the product has been "improved" and one tablet in the 100 dose bottle (now short and round instead of a taller rectangle) equals 4 tables of the previous package. In examining the ingredient list, it looks like the same dosage of all the salts. Cary's experiment I've been following is 6 tablets in the morning, so it looks like I'll be doing a pill and a half. Does that math sound correct? The new tablets seem to have more of a coating on them and are less crumbly than the previous ones.
https://hylands.com/products/hylands-bioplasma?variant=40288304365638
In checking the details of the product page though, it looks like they are bringing back the 500 and 1000 count bottles under the old dosage. That wasn't there a couple of weeks ago when I ordered from them. I usually buy from a local shop but they said they couldn't order the old dosages and bottles anymore when I asked. Perhaps they brought it back due to demand?
Are there other manufacturers of the cell salts in the U.S.? I've taken them daily for 16 months now and noted some significant changes that I attribute to them. In case Hyland's messes with them again, I might want to switch manufacturers.
Second quick question - are you taking a January blogging break this year?
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Date: 2022-12-26 09:05 pm (UTC)2) Nope. Things are moving very fast right now. If I take a break at all it'll be later in 2023.
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Date: 2022-12-26 04:01 pm (UTC)That phrase stuck with me throughout 2022, because not only did we all see a big funeral for a head of state, but also because 2022 has, for me personally, indeed been a "funeral year." I have been to more funerals/wakes/memorial services in 2022 than in at least the past five years combined, if not more, and that's not counting the memorial services to which I was invited but didn't go, or the wakes my spouse went to without me.
My question is, does the person who predicted that 2022 was going to be a funeral year have anything to say about 2023 predictions that you can share?
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Date: 2022-12-26 09:05 pm (UTC)magic, simplicity, and complexity
Date: 2022-12-26 04:21 pm (UTC)Nothing against such an approach, but due to my busy life as teacher and parent, I don't have the time or energy to put all that time into magic practice.
Now for a couple question.
1) To what extent is more better as far as doing rituals and connecting with gods and angels?
2) I'm curious if you might share your thoughts in general about Solomonic approaches to magic.
3) I know it's a huge question, and I gather that these days it's not your magical focus, but could you please make some suggestions for praying to/working with/learning from angels and archangels? I have finished Learning Ritual Magic but have a 2 year old and thus need let Circles of Power go for now and be simple in my approach until she is older.
Thank you,
Puce Elongated Ungulate
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Date: 2022-12-26 11:23 pm (UTC)My take is that Solomonic magic is a method of making spirits do magical work for you because you're not willing to do it for yourself. To my mind, that's a very bad idea. It makes you dependent on the spirits, and even if they don't happen to be malicious -- as many of them are -- they don't have your best interests in mind, and they can and will mess with you.
All that hardware and ornate ritual? That's what you have to do to get effects, again, if you're not willing to put in the effort of daily practice and of changing your own consciousness to change your workd. The clutter is unnecessary if you learn how to work directly with consciousness and magical energy, which again, you can learn through the right kinds of daily practice. I used to do Golden Dawn magic, which pound for pound has as much hardware and ornate ritual as any magical system in the world. I got good results with it, don't get me wrong -- but I get better results now, with much less hardware and much simpler workings.
As for working with angels and archangels, if you've got a two-year-old in the house, your best approach is prayer. That doesn't involve any hardware at all, just a simple willingness to interact with spiritual beings. If you have a copy handy, my book Paths of Wisdom has a discussion of prayer in it you may find useful.
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Date: 2022-12-26 04:39 pm (UTC)My mother told me an interesting story the other day: sometime when I was very young (or possibly not yet born), she was speaking to her homeopath about trying traditional Chinese medicine, as a TCM practitioner was operating in the same clinic. The homeopath sternly warned her away from combining homeopathy with TCM.
Are you, or other readers, aware of any contra-indications between TCM and homeopathy? If so, does anyone have any ideas as to what the reasons might be?
Many thanks,
Luke
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Date: 2022-12-26 07:25 pm (UTC)Is it possible to watch your breath while not focusing on it as in breathing manually? In other words, is it possible to watch your breath without it «being aware» you are watching it? If yes, how exactly, perhaps meditation? And is this something one should try to do?
One time, maybe a year ago, when awakening from sleep, for a few seconds I was able to do this, very briefly. I was suprised about the high rate of breathing, not really hyper-ventilating but not far from it, if I recall correctly.
Thanks.
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