Magic Monday
Nov. 20th, 2022 11:23 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

The image (or lack of same)? At this point I've traced Juliet Ashley's lineage back as far as photos and documentation extend. John Gilbert's other main teacher, Rev. Matthew William Shaw aka Rhodonn Starrus, is a tougher proposition. Born in Pennsylvania, he became a Universalist minister, serving in a church in the Allentown, PA area. In 1952 he and two other ministers of the Universalist Church, Revs. Omar Zasluchy and Owen Symanski, left the church to protest the upcoming merger between their denomination and the Unitarian Church. (They believed that the Unitarians planned on taking over the congregations, churches, and bank accounts, and then discarding every element of Universalist teaching and tradition; as it turned out, they were right.) In 1952, the three of them were duly consecrated as bishops by Bishop Robert Monroe of the Liberal Catholic Church, and founded the Universal Gnostic Church (UGC). Rev. Shaw had already founded the Modern Order of Essenes as a healing order associated with his church, and took it with him into the UGC. In 1972 he relocated to the Boulder, CO area where he became a friend and associate of Dr. Juliet Ashley, and received initiation into the orders she headed -- the Order of Spiritual Alchemy, the Holy Order of the Golden Dawn, and the Ancient Order of Druids in America -- while she became active in the Modern Order of Essenes and the Universal Gnostic Church. John Gilbert described him as a gifted teacher but a strict taskmaster, who demanded the best from his students and usually got it.
I have yet to find a photo of the man, or accurate information on his birth and death dates -- I gather from what John told me that he died sometime in the 1980s. I have also been unable to find much of anything about Bishop Robert Monroe of the LCC -- there were plenty of schisms in the LCC's history, and he apparently ended up on the wrong side of one of them, so he's just a name in a few old lists at this point. I hope to be able to get more information on him, on Matthew Shaw, and on the early history of the UGC as things proceed.
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Re: Reincarnation of historical figures
Date: 2022-11-21 06:21 am (UTC)As a rough approximation, how many human lives are required before one can go on to the next stage?
And also, how many earth years may pass before re-incarnating?
Only rough approximations needed. Many thanks!
Re: Reincarnation of historical figures
Date: 2022-11-21 04:44 pm (UTC)and no set time between lives as well - that is based on your karma
Re: Reincarnation of historical figures
Date: 2022-11-21 07:23 pm (UTC)2) That's varied considerably in the last few millennia. Back when there weren't so many humans incarnate, people routinely spent more time out of incarnation than in it -- that's healthy, as it gives each soul plenty of time to process their experiences and get the most benefit out of them. Nowadays, with eight billion bodies to fill, very few souls spend more than a few years out of incarnation, and they're very often coming back into incarnation with a load of unprocessed experiences and emotions. I suspect that's where a lot of contemporary social issues come from -- for example, I've believed for some time now that quite a lot of people who suffer from gender dysphoria still subconsciously remember what their last body felt like and are having trouble adjusting to the new one.
Re: Reincarnation of historical figures
Date: 2022-11-21 08:54 pm (UTC)Oh dear gods, something unsettling has occurred to me: gender dysphoria strikes me as a Plutonian issue (the rejection of the realities of one's physical body in favour of insisting it must be something else seems Plutonian; as does the involvement of a host of other Plutonian phenomena like the pharmaceutical companies); which seems to suggest that the root causes are Plutonian.
Add to this that the rate of population increase went up dramatically starting out around 1900 as infant mortality plummeted, and you have a case that the massive population is a result of Pluto's influences, and some of Pluto's effects unfold from it. Which means, that there's a real likelihood that part of the unwinding of the Plutonian influence will be a steep drop in population, down towards something more normal....
Re: Reincarnation of historical figures
Date: 2022-11-21 10:23 pm (UTC)Re: Reincarnation of historical figures
Date: 2022-11-21 10:26 pm (UTC)Re: Reincarnation of historical figures
Date: 2022-11-22 12:39 am (UTC)https://reincarnationplr.com/episodes/page/2/
Anyone interested in reincarnation in general might like the podcast more broadly.