Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66
Nov. 8th, 2022 01:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2022-11-12 05:30 pm (UTC)I don't know about demons per se but I have always thought there is more going on on a nonphysical level, with nonhuman consciousnesses, than most people would ever be willing to even consider. And a huge problem with that is that, generally speaking, and with many exceptions of course, in their human bodies we are not equipped to perceive much on the nonphysical level. Those who do perceive things, when they try talking about it usually find it's fastrack to getting mercilessly ridiculed, if not interned in the nut house.
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Date: 2022-11-12 07:35 pm (UTC)In Orthodoxy we have terms for stuff like this. There are different kinds of knowledge. There's the kind you can know by proxy, through your senses, and then there's the kind you can know directly, through your nous.
I think a lot of us sensed that there was something going on with covid and the shots, beyond what was available to the five senses, the rational information. And as modern western industrial people, we have a really hard time describing, integrating, or sharing that knowledge. But if anything, that knowledge is more real than the sensory kind, which is just a proxy. I *think* other religions have some descriptions of this. It's not something I've studied. But at least in our understanding, the more humble you are, the more repentant, and the more devoted to God, the more receptive you become to direct knowledge, and the better you can become at discerning the difference between your own thoughts and biases, the physical surface world, and what's really *real* on other levels. Being human, and all made in the image of God, we are all *capable* of perception on that level. So it stands to reason that anything with a huge spiritual component moving it, is going to be perceived by a lot of people, on *some* level. The hard part is being able to resist it, when you've been trained and socialized to ignore information that comes through that channel.
It is almost like... clocks. We all have them. We use them to tell how much of the day has elapsed, and we're so used to them, that we often fail to pay attention to other ways of knowing what time it is: light levels, the position of the sun, moon, stars, shadows, the songs of birds, insects, and frogs. In addition, we let the clock impose a certain regimented perception of time on us, that our forbears did not have. The clock stunts our ability to *wait* and rushes us through the day. What happens when the clock is wrong? We don't notice until things go very wrong! We are late! We are early! But it's rare to first question the clock! Is the clock telling you the truth, or pushing you away from truth? You'd need to have a sense of time formed outside the use of clocks, to be able to tell, no? But we all have access to that, if we care to exercise it.
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Date: 2022-11-13 12:36 am (UTC)I get what you're saying. I have, on occasion, gotten such a dreadful vibe from some people-- I think it's because they have a lot of hate / rage in them and/or have some sort of malevolent entity possessing them. A few really stand out in my memory.
If life has taught me anything so far, it is to respect my intuition. Every single time I have not, I have regretted it.
My inner alarm bells were clanging over this jab. My inner alarm bells are still clanging, and about everything surrounding it.
You write, "But at least in our understanding, the more humble you are, the more repentant, and the more devoted to God, the more receptive you become to direct knowledge, and the better you can become at discerning the difference between your own thoughts and biases, the physical surface world, and what's really *real* on other levels."
Yes. I would say it's very much about getting one's ego comfortably seated and occupied with some lovely little crossword puzzle **off the stage.** It can be a useful thing to have an ego, however it's like a perception distortion machine.
And from what I observe in (not all but) many of the people I know who took the jab, it was their egos that got them shanghaied to the vaxx clinic. And, alas, their kids, too.
Self-described Psychic Medium
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Date: 2022-11-13 11:57 pm (UTC)That seems like an apt description of it. In the two most memorable cases, one later went to jail for murder, and the other should have been locked up, but AFAIK never was, even though he stalked his ex wife, beat her so badly that she had to be admitted to a hospital (she wouldn't press charges), and later lost his job for embezzlement. That guy was our church youth group leader.
That still bothers me. To this day, I *don't know* what it was I was seeing in that guy, and why nobody else was seeing it. I'm half-convinced everybody sees it, and then people just self-edit their perceptions because they can't square it with logic and good manners. Lucky me, I was never properly afflicted with good manners ;) But I can't make anybody else understand it, who doesn't see it for themselves. And that has always irked me.
But that is why I find plausible the theory that this whole Cooties drama is backed by some kind of malevolent entity/entities. It's that same vibe. Same "get away" "stay off the radar" instinct activated. Same frustrating inability to communicate it sensibly, to anybody who isn't seeing the same thing.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 01:19 am (UTC)I have long believed that it all started going wrong when the clock was invented. That was the start of expecting human beings to be machines.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 11:56 am (UTC)Indeed
Date: 2022-11-13 08:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 11:37 pm (UTC)My great-grandmother steadfastly resisted the rule of both clocks and that devilish invention: "daylight saving time". She stubbornly (and in her later years, eccentrically) held to "sun time" as she called it. When your shadow was shortest, it was noon. Morning and afternoon time she measured by the number of fingers between the sun and the horizon. That was good enough for her, and she strongly felt it should be good enough for everybody else, too!
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 04:22 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 05:47 pm (UTC)I have all sorts of rational reasons for refusing the jab, from medical (not high risk, no long-term safety data, risk-benefit does not compute for me) to ethical (nobody should ever be forced to have a medical intervention against their will) to suspicion of power, money, and authority (nothing produced by those kinds kinds of corporations and pushed that hard by that many corrupt institutions and that many people with that much money and power can possibly be for my own good, it's obviously intended to line pockets and/or as a gateway to more digital control of the population).
But I also have a visceral, frankly irrational fear of it. Something is just....not right. I can't put my finger on it. Someone or something somewhere seems to have whispered to me "beware", and I listened. I feel like the above arguments came second, after the visceral recoil.
I don't get flu shots, either, but I don't have the same visceral recoil around them. With the flu shot, it really is more just "eh, there's always a cost-benefit analysis with everything, I suppose flu shots may make sense for some people but not for me at this time given my low risk and their relatively low efficacy."
But the cootie jabs make me shudder for less logical reasons I can't quite explain.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 06:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 09:00 pm (UTC)--Lunar Apprentice
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Date: 2022-11-13 11:31 pm (UTC)I am nowhere near humble enough to see clearly what that's all about, but God is merciful and even when we're vain, petty creatures, He doesn't leave us totally blind.
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Date: 2022-11-14 02:51 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-15 02:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 01:20 am (UTC)It's fascinating how many people have said some form of this. In fact, it seems to me that most if not all the people I know who resisted have said some variant of it of other....
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Date: 2022-11-14 06:16 pm (UTC)