Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66
Nov. 8th, 2022 01:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Sir Christopher Chope, MP for Christchurch, UK
Date: 2022-11-12 01:49 pm (UTC)# # # # # # # #
"victims are increasingly telling their loved ones and neighbors and friends about their circumstances, and as a result of that we are seeing a much lower rate of application to get booster vaccines. And a reason for that is because the government can't suppress information going around amongst ordinary people even though there is very little about this in the mainstream media. But many people now would not would not touch a booster with a barge pole and I include myself amongst those."
— SIR CHRISTOPHER CHOPE, Member of Parliament for Christchurch, UK
E-petition debate relating to the safety of covid-19 vaccines - Monday 24 October 2022
UK Parliament (official YT channel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfgGCgxGYkk
TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE:
Sir Christopher Chope is a Member of Parliament (Conservative) for Christchurch.
https://members.parliament.uk/member/242/contact
TRANSCRIPT OF EXCERPT
37:42
SIR CHRISTOPHER CHOPE: Sir Roger, it's a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship. And I am as you referred to now the chair of the All Party Parliamentary group for the victims of the covid 19 vaccine damage. And we've had, the group is now set up and running and we had this enormously well-supported meeting in [?] House last Thursday.
I agree with the legitimate concerns of the hundred thousand plus people who signed this petition, and I share their belief that the recent and increasing volume of data relating to cardiovascular problems is enough of concern to warrant an inquiry into safety. And although as I refer the big Hallett inquiry* into covid 19 is going to cover I think a lot of this ground that won't be for many years, and in the meantime people are being encouraged to have more and more boosters and they want to know understandably what the impact of those boosters is upon their health and what the potential risks and rewards are.
It's— I as chairman of this APPG** and having taken an issue in this subject for about a year and produced a private member's bill, another one of which I hope to be able to produce, have a second [?] for next month, I've come across the findings of coroners reports up and down the country. Those coroners have found that deaths have been caused directly by covid 19 vaccines. And I've spoken to some of the bereaved, and indeed I spoke to the gentlemen who was referred to by my honorable friend who attended our meeting on Thursday whose wife was a journalist in Newcastle. And I've seen with my own eyes the suffering that those people are going through as bereaved or as people who are still suffering the ill effects of the adverse reactions.
And I'm sorry that my honorable friend in introducing this debate didn't really have much to say about the people who we know have suffered death or serious injury as a result of the vaccines. If I may say to him I think he showed himself to be rather the victim of producer capture, and the producer in this case being the MHRA***. He doesn't seem to have allowed his researches to go further than the MHRA. Has he for example looked at what's been happening in Germany where the Germans, they have an institute called the Paul Ehrlich Institute and that is the German regulator responsible for vaccine safety. And on the 20th of July they confirmed that 1 in 5,000 people were affected by a serious effect after vaccination. And that is, that reflected also a finding that they published earlier in the year in which they tried to raise the alert that 1 in 5,000 vaccinated people has a serious side effect such as heart muscle inflammation. And statistically they said every 10th person must expect a severe consequence from having a course of 3 or 4 vaccines. And the institute uses the WHO definition of a serious adverse event, meaning one which results in hospitalization, is life-threatening, or life-changing. And after a 4 dose course the risk of a report to their system of a serious adverse effect is 1 in 1,250.
Now that is serious information coming from the regulator in another country which is highly respected for the quality of its health care. And isn't it interesting also that the number of adverse reports referred to there is far fewer* than the number of adverse reports which led to the 1976 swine flu vaccine being withdrawn. Some members may recall in 1976, Gerald Ford, President of the United States at the time, was panicked by swine flu into organizing a vaccination campaign. And when reports emerged of suspected adverse reactions, including heart attacks, Guillain Barré syndrome, and there were 53 reported deaths, people began to worry about the safety of the vaccine and the government halted the mass vaccination program in December of that same year. So in that case the government acted on far fewer adverse events than we've been talking about during this debate, and decided that it was no longer in the balance of risk and reward was that it was too risky to continue with that vaccination program.
So let's look at these facts, and let's not be just beholden to the MHRA. And if this was a debate about the MHRA, Sir Roger, I would have massive material which I could bring before us for that.
But what I'd also say is this, that the government seems to be in denial about the risks of these vaccines. Only this morning the deputy chief medical officer for England was on the radio saying the boosters were, and I quote, perfectly safe and effective. But, Sir Roger, they are not perfectly safe and there's a question about whether they are effective, but that's for another debate. That they are not perfectly safe is now admitted by the government.
Indeed the UK Health Security Agency has issued a Guide to the Covid Autumn Booster and you, Sir Roger, may have seen a copy of this. It comes out with the request that you go and get another booster from your GP. Unfortunately the covering letter from the NHS makes no reference to any risks associated with the vaccine. But if one actually looks at this document, which is included within the envelope, it says A Guide to the Autumn Booster, and one goes down, it talks about serious side effects. [reading from the guide] "Cases of inflammation of the heart called myocarditis or pericarditis have been reported very rarely after both the Pfizer and the Moderna covid 19 vaccines. These cases have been seen mostly in younger men and within several days of vaccination. Most of the people have felt better and recovered quickly following rest and simple treatments." And then it says, "You should seek medical advice."
What is doesn't say is what happens to those people who do not recover? And that is what I'd would like to concentrate on in the remainder of my remarks.
Those people, if they are disabled to the extent of 60% or more may be eligible for payments under the vaccine damage payments scheme and they might get 120,000 pounds. But that scheme in itself is not fit for purpose because it talks about terms of disability which is not necessarily well-described in the context of an auto-immune condition such as those who are suffering from the consequences of covid 19 vaccine damage.
And what about all those people who are only 59% disabled? There's no financial help for them. And I think even more worrying for many, there's no specific medical help. The government refuses to provide specialist help for these vaccine victims. While it has set up long covid clinics, vaccine victims are being ignored. I've asked parliamentary questions about this and I haven't been able to get a satisfactory answer as to why there are no clinics for those victims of vaccine damage.
And as a result of the government's behavior victims are increasingly telling their loved ones and neighbors and friends about their circumstances, and as a result of that we are seeing a much lower rate of application to get booster vaccines. And a reason for that is because the government can't suppress information going around amongst ordinary people even though there is very little about this in the mainstream media. But many people now would not would not touch a booster with a barge pole and I include myself amongst those. I'm not anti-vax, I had my first two vaccines, but from all that I've seen and know about this I think that the increase in boosters is now for many people counter-productive and for some people it's also dangerous.
And so we need to take into account what is happening on the ground. People are becoming increasingly vaccine-hesitant. Large numbers of doctors and health professionals are now calling for a complete halt to the vaccination program because the risks outweigh the benefits—
MP: [?]
SIR CHRISTOPHER CHOPE: I give way to my right honorable friend.
MP: [?] Sir Roger, is there a fundamental difference between these kinds of vaccines and vaccination per se? Vaccination per se has saved saved hundreds of thousands, millions of lives here and elsewhere, but these vaccines are qualitatively different. Science matters, but that matters more.
SIR CHRISTOPHER CHOPE: Right. And of course as you will know, Sir Roger, I think in the United States, they changed the definition of vaccine. Because what we always used to understand as a vaccine is something where you had a small element of the thing about which against which you were being vaccinated put into your system so that your system could react against a small amount and then if you were exposed to a larger amount it would also react against. These vaccines do not use the raw material like old vaccines, therefore in many senses it's a misnomer to describe them as vaccines at all. But again this information is not really out there amongst the public any more than the fact that booster vaccines have not been tested on humans at all during the studies on them, I think that only on mice. So people are being used as victims for experimentation in this and that's why people are getting worried.
So I finish on this point that Oracle Films, their film "Safe and Effective: A Second Opinion" is available on YouTube and it sets out, and I make no apologies for the fact that I participate in that film, Sir Roger, and it sets out a different view about the safety of these vaccines. And I'm not saying we should ban all vaccines, covid-19 have a complete halt, but what I am saying is that there's an urgent need for the government to get to grips with this issue before more and more people are duped into having vaccines which they probably don't need, they're not going to do any good to them, and will present risks to their health.
50:10
[END OF EXCERPT]
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TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:
*Sir Christopher refers to the Covid-19 Inquiry chaired by Baroness Heather Hallett.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-announces-covid-19-inquiry-chair
** APPG stands for All-Party Parliamentary Group. According to the UK Parliament webpage:
https://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/apg/
"All-Party Parliamentary Groups (APPGs) are informal cross-party groups that have no official status within Parliament. They are run by and for Members of the Commons and Lords, though many choose to involve individuals and organisations from outside Parliament in their administration and activities."
***MHRA is the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/welcome-to-our-new-mhra-website
*I believe Sir Christopher misspoke, having intended to say the opposite, that the swine flu vaccine program was halted after far fewer adverse events than we have seen with the covid 19 injections.
Re: Sir Christopher Chope, MP for Christchurch, UK
Date: 2022-11-12 06:34 pm (UTC)-Translucent Jejune Octopus
Re: Sir Christopher Chope, MP for Christchurch, UK
Date: 2022-11-12 10:35 pm (UTC)https://www.oraclefilms.com/safeandeffective
That webpage notes:
"The documentary was removed from YouTube on 26th October 2022 under the pretext of alleged "medical misinformation". At that time it had accumulated over 990,000 views and 7,000 comments."
Funny, I have just been transcribing an excerpt from an interview in which RFK Jr talks about the meaning of "misinformation."
PS
Rumble has it:
https://rumble.com/v1lwbgs-safe-and-effective-a-second-opinion-2022-oracle-films-news-uncut.html
and BitChute:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2t5lPLsqgD99/
Re: Sir Christopher Chope, MP for Christchurch, UK
Date: 2022-11-12 10:37 pm (UTC)His pretend act is not sustainable,
Re: Sir Christopher Chope, MP for Christchurch, UK
Date: 2022-11-13 12:15 am (UTC)By the way, I myself have had 3 things taken down from my old Google blogger blog, none of which had anything whatsoever to do with anything that might have merited that. I could ony conclude it was some sort of mistake made by the algo.
Well, Dr. Campbell is at least giving us a bit of 1984-sque theater for now. And it seems he's doing it quite well. And that in itself is surely waking some people up.