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Smudge for the winAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.     

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Date: 2022-11-11 10:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stcathalexandria
It looks like Twitter is imploding and if it does, there goes the source of a lot of anonymous sourced news. The little bit of opposition to everything covid occurred through Twitter who allowed a wider range of speech than Facebook/Instagram/Meta ever did. Through the Birdwatch user provided context for official tweets, people were able to get the Whitehouse to delete some of their propaganda tweets they put out.

I'm really concerned that If Twitter goes down, there goes the easiest way to pass information about anything or counter the official narrative in real time. I could see censorship moving to the Apple/Google level quite quickly and easily where people's emails and text messages will be screen and deleted before they even received them (or people locked out of their accounts for wrong speak).

It's already so hard to find websites anymore, that if I don't have an URL saved for something, I can't just search for it. That happened with Dreamwidth as we all just saw.

Elon could be controlled opposition taking down an effective communication platform, or he could just be a clown, idk. Either way, I'm truly frightened of a world where the only information I get is from government sources or the corporate press.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-12 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
>world where the only information I get is from government sources or the corporate press.

That was the 70s and 80s, with your host Peter Jennings. Things still got out but it was rumors spread the old-fashioned way from person to person talking. I remember hearing about how aspartame was bad for you via that old fashioned grapevine. Come to find out, yup, it was bad for you.

>Elon could be controlled opposition

He is. You can take that to the bank. Do. Not. Trust. Him.

>he could just be a clown

That one is self-evident. Actually, his untrustworthiness is self-evident too, if you were watching the lawsuits where he tried to wriggle out of what he had signed to.

Twitter is the quintessential dumpster fire and there are no heroes in that story, only villains. My advice is to treat all those big corporate sites as if they are diseased whores - you never touch them directly, only through gloves or condoms.

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Date: 2022-11-12 06:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
Elon... look, whatever else he's up to, it's a very, very safe bet that the interests of billionaires are not the same as the interests of you and me. He also made a lot of that money contracting with the US government. Never forget it.

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Date: 2022-11-12 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes, billionaire interests and commoner interests are rarely the same. That being said, they can occasionally and unexpectedly line up pretty closely.

Musk bought out Twitter for chump change in order to protect the rest of his ill-gotten gains from being stripped from him. He witnessed the very public beta testing for the newly minted “hostile takeover by Wokesters” that managed to depose Jack Dorsey from his own company right under his nose. Call it Color Revolution reworked for corporations, rather than nations. Musk identified that Wokester Takeover would end up entailing a technological and ideological suite as impervious to resistance as Color Revolutioning once had. That is, if it were given the chance to work out the obvious bugs and Achilles heels its beta testing had revealed... and Musk was taking copious notes!

Musk had no interest in letting Gene Sharp's potent ideological weapon be recrafted to expel him from Tesla, SpaceX, or whatever other subsidy dumpsters he's riding to riches at the moment. His billionaire interests may have included zero concern for the rest of us, but his endless self-interest managed to dismantle Wokester Takeover before it could be perfected into the unstoppable juggernaut its proponents were counting on. Hence the considerable rending of garments, gnashing of teeth, and licking of wounds going on in Woke safe-spaces of late. As for the ridiculous overvaluation Musk happily paid for the Twitterverse, it was nothing compared to the real value of the vulnerable assets he protected with his strategic intervention.

Of at least equal benefit to us commoners, Musk's great purge of the Woke ideologues from Twitterdom (or is that Twitterdumb?) effectively dismantles “hostile cancellation by Wokesters,” which had managed to take out so many celebrities, journalists, points of view, and entire narratives. Call it Color Revolution reworked for individuals, rather than nations. The uncontrolled dumpster fire raging in all the social media stocks at the moment reflects the late-dawning awareness that, no, they won't ever be able to deliver on the total social control they were so ambitiously forecasting for their investors.

The lack of creativity exhibited by the idiots hoping to win by applying the Color Revolution model to everything, just as its original playbook ceases to be able to deliver up any goodies whatsoever, is one for the history books. There's nothing quite like a senile elite class to make a new age inevitable. Musk will join the ranks of the senilities soon enough, but for the moment he still has some elegantly creative plays left in him. For all its considerable flaws, self-interest remains the cornerstone that capitalism is built upon. When yours happen to line up with some billionaire's, you become the most unlikely of allies, however temporarily.

- Christophe

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Date: 2022-11-13 12:20 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Bonfire of the Senilities!

Enjoyed this Musk opinion Christophe.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-13 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Bonfire of the Senilities is a keeper! I do hope they can be stacked up at least as high as Florentine masterpieces once were.

If sudden deaths among the vaccinated continue to rise in their ghastly ascent, mass cremations may well come into fashion. I'm perfectly happy to keep one pyre reserved purely for the Senilities, so they can maintain their isolated exclusivity well after their deaths. Aw heck, I'll even volunteer to bring the marshmallows!

- Christophe

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Date: 2022-11-13 01:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
I like this theory!

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-13 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
☕️🍰☕️🍰

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Date: 2022-11-14 05:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stcathalexandria
Stirring things up and locking them in place is the new normal

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Date: 2022-11-12 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If Twitter implodes, then maybe it'll encourage people to set up the alternatives offline, so that we don't need to rely on the internet for this anymore. People spread news opposed to the official narrative all the time before the 1990s, and didn't need the internet for it, so we know it can be done.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-12 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, Mastodon seems to be driving nicely.
Lot of people fleeing from twitter putting up shop there.

Which I approve of, its open-source and can be self-hosted and based on open standards.
For those who never heard of it before, a summary is available at https://joinmastodon.org/
Or check the wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software)

So, while Im all for offline alternatives, there are good twitter alternatives already out there.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-12 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The people migrating from Twitter to Mastodon are the same ones who made Twitter the screaming pit of left-"liberal" insanity.

Not going to sign up on either one anytime soon.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-13 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
True enough, but there is no censoring.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-15 06:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] p_coyle
which is a good thing. people will be forced out of their echo chambers.

it's like musk is larping eris, and wasting a fraction of his wealth on twitter is just his version of tossing the apple of discord into the room.

Back to zines!

Date: 2022-11-13 07:12 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My trust is in the information I can silkscreen by hand; though some people have made good use of mimeographs and xerox machines. I’d be pleased if an alternative press sprang up, featuring a wide range of political views including conservative yet crunchy ideas and old-time hippie aesthetics. The new counterculture is bound to be populist, methinks.

Re: Back to zines!

Date: 2022-11-15 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Wow this gives range to a whole set of images and ideas.

I love the idea of an alternative press using some sort of simple technology
not that silkscreening is simple.



Re: Back to zines!

Date: 2022-11-15 07:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] temporaryreality
Silkscreening might just make it through a petroleum-less tech bottleneck. I'm still working on mimeographs, but there are many weak points - they're tolerable now, but down the line will be difficult to surmount.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-12 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
well, there is always Gettr, and Truth Social..

that is why they made those sites after all.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-12 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I see the alternatives as having the opposite blindspots. Sure you can say more but there are very dominant entrenched tribal narratives too. Eventually the pendulum will swing again when a new team is in charge and needs to pretend everything is going well or create and amplify more scapegoats.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-12 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Twitter isn't the only thing out there. Anyway, there are many other ways to share information aside from social media, there always have been, always will.

I used to be on Twitter, an avid user for a while, found it too addictive (it's addictive by design of course) and not good for my brain, so I gave it up I forget when. It's been some years. I do not miss Twitter.

Elon, well, he's very good at the various games he plays, one of them being attracting cruiseship-loads of attention.

Grumbling Grumbledore

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Date: 2022-11-12 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What evidence is there that Twitter is imploding? What’s happening over there? I follow a few people there but not enough to have a feel for what’s happening overall.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-12 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You can spend 579 hours a day on Twitter and not really get a feeling for "what's happening" because the Twitter algos will game you.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-13 01:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
I've poked at it a bit, and there are searches that were obviously blocked, and have since been un-blocked-- for example, I searched last week for a list of states that had come out saying they wouldn't require covid shots to attend school. It returned a factcheck box telling me where to find "reliable" covid info, and three completely irrelevant search results. Three. A week later, the same search got me many, many results.

So clearly something is changing. But you're right, it's hard to tell exactly what. A lot of the keyword bans have been dropped, I think. Accounts banned for purely ideological reasons are gradually being reinstated. And IMO I'm seeing a lot less trashy bot/spam traffic than I did last time I dipped in a couple months ago-- the sort of stuff that makes unmoderated comboxes everywhere complete toxic wastelands.

But I'm about done poking at it for now. None of that changes the essential nature of the thing: that it's a fast-delivery constant-stream chain of tiny dopamine hits designed to stunt contemplative thought and hijack your neuro-social circuitry to serve a technological organism. Also a gigantic time-suck.

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