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Smudge for the winAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.     

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-10 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, inspired by your comments, I watched the Sheridan clip.

Blaming the fizzing red wave on the transmogrification of the vaxxed into a new species made me chuckle, although I'm not convinced that the vax has made the vaxxed into a different species either. Sure, they may have taken on some new thinking/behaviours, but I tend to agree with you in that the events of the last few years have probably more revealed people for who they are, instead of changing what they really are.

On a personal level, I accept that whatever the cause, there's just something about my makeup that makes me fundamentally different to almost everyone else in my hometown. I mean, at one stage the local health authorities were claiming a 104% vax rate, whereas I have declined to accept even one injection! More seriously, despite the odd figures from time to time, the authorities have almost certainly injected almost everyone who was eligible for the sacrament in my town, and they all went along with the whole shebang.

These events have led me to the crazy realization that almost everyone in my town is genuinely incapable of grokking the way I think and behave. And that's not new - it's always been that way. It's just that it's taken these events to make me accept it. The vaccines haven't changed them - they were always like that, and in all likelihood, they always will be like that. If Sheridan isn't right about our differences being due to the vax, then perhaps the Gnostics were onto something after all :P

Whatever the case, it's liberating. I can stop worrying so much now about this or that difference. What'd be the point? Which brings me around to agreeing with Sheridan that there's no point in being Nationalistic when one has bugger all in common with their countrymen, and I respect that he feels connected to his international tribe.

I'd be interested to hear more about these Gnostic beliefs you've raised, and the views of the elders of Mount Athos. With respect to the latter, I googled "Mount Athos elders vaccine" and the first headlines/hits were about how "Greece's Mount Athos elders trust God and science to protect them from COVID" - ha, ha, methinks the search engine doth protest too much :) I think I'll have to put in a bit more effort to find their views on the vax and its relationship to the "Mark of the Beast".

Anyway, thanks all for a couple of interesting posts/links.

The Ninth Mouse

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-10 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here is a link to a podcast by a monk in Australia, who goes over this is a lot of detail (warning - LONG podcast!):

https://www.orthodoxtalks.com/talk-82-the-importance-of-reading-the-lives-of-saints-when-dealing-with-the-heresies-of-ecumenism-and-covidism-part-1/

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-12 02:03 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks, I'll watch it.

There's a Serbian Orthodox Church in my area, I looked them up out of curiosity earlier during covidworld and was happy to discover some sympathy for the unvaccinated from (what I presume) is their leadership:

https://soc.org.au/en/news/1542-where-to-australia-quo-vadis-australia

Even though I'm not a Serbian expat, or an Orthodox anything, it's still nice to know that there's at least one institution in my region that's sympathetic to the unvaccinated.

The Ninth Mouse

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-10 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Still haven't watched the Sheridan clip, but your mention of grokking reminded me of a very worthwhile new post from Ugo Bardi: https://www.senecaeffect.com/2022/11/how-to-beat-propaganda-grokking-strategy.html

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-11 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Interesting - another intellectual who comprehends that we are living on 'Spaceship Earth' who also appears to have rejected the official vax narrative. Funny how all of the thinkers that I respected before the events of the last few years for their ideas on ecological matters are on broadly the same page on this issue as well :)

If one doesn't try to 'grok' things and isn't at least a bit of an 'anarchist' by disposition (for whatever reason) then one will probably always comply slavishly with the 'authorities' no matter how stupid and flawed their knowledge claims and diktats happen to be on a given issue.

That sort of independence seems rare though - especially where I live. And I'm not even all that radical really, it's just that I'm not a total sub, so that tells you something.

Anyway, I'm sure most of the time unthinking obedience is adaptive in modern society, otherwise most people wouldn't do it. The price for it though is that every now and again the groupthink goes awry, and we get a Bay of Pigs, a Space Shuttle Challenger, a global EGT campaign, industrial-technological civilization. . . :P

The Ninth Mouse

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-12 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is great. For some reason I returned three times to find this link and finally got to it. Wonderfully put thoughts about independent thinking and led to a new word too.

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-11 12:33 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Orthodox priest Twitter account

Not following 'the speed of science' down to the pharmacy it seems :-)

https://twitter.com/AnaniasFather

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-12 02:40 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
No, it would seem not :)

My local Orthodox Serbs have a groovy Byzantine style monastery in the country nearby.

If/when the vax passports come in, perhaps they'll let me work for food :P

The Ninth Mouse
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